Can I deduct business expenses for my LLC that exceed my business income?
I recently started a side business outside of my regular day job and decided to form an LLC. One of the main reasons I went with an LLC was for the tax benefits, especially being able to write off business expenses like mileage, vehicle costs, office space, etc. Here's what I'm confused about though - my LLC isn't bringing in a ton of revenue yet. What happens if my business expenses are actually higher than my income? Can I still deduct all those expenses or am I limited to only deducting up to the amount of income my business generates? For example, say I needed to purchase a vehicle primarily for business use that costs $65,000, but my business only brings in about $25,000 in revenue this year. Can I still deduct the full cost of the vehicle (or the appropriate depreciation) even though it exceeds my business income? Or am I capped at $25,000 for total deductions? This is my first year running this business and I'm trying to understand how to maximize tax benefits while staying compliant. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Serene Snow
You can absolutely deduct business expenses that exceed your LLC's income, but there are some important things to know about this situation. When your business expenses exceed your income, you have what's called a "net operating loss" (NOL). These losses can typically offset your other income (like your W-2 wages), but there are rules around this depending on how your LLC is taxed. If your LLC is a single-member LLC that's taxed as a sole proprietorship (the default for single-owner LLCs), then the business losses will flow through to your personal tax return via Schedule C and can offset your other income. This could potentially lower your overall tax bill. Regarding the vehicle example - you generally can't deduct the full $65,000 in one year. For major purchases like vehicles, you'll need to depreciate the asset over several years according to IRS schedules. However, there are special provisions like Section 179 or bonus depreciation that might allow you to deduct a larger portion in the first year.
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Issac Nightingale
•Thanks for the explanation! So if I'm understanding right, that means I could actually reduce my W-2 income tax with my business losses? That seems too good to be true. Are there any limits to how much I can offset? What if the IRS thinks I'm just running a hobby business to create tax losses?
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Serene Snow
•Yes, you can reduce your W-2 income tax with legitimate business losses, but you're right to be cautious. The IRS has what's called the "hobby loss rule." If your business shows losses for 3 out of 5 consecutive years, the IRS may scrutinize whether your activity is actually a business or just a hobby. To be considered a business, you need to show that you're engaged in the activity with the intention of making a profit, even if you haven't yet. To protect yourself, keep meticulous records showing your business intent - a business plan, marketing efforts, improvements to operations, etc. And make sure all expenses are legitimately ordinary and necessary for your business. For vehicles specifically, you'll need to track business versus personal use and only deduct the business portion.
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Romeo Barrett
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Marina Hendrix
•How does taxr.ai work exactly? I'm not familiar with it. Does it just analyze your receipts and tell you what's deductible or does it actually help with filing too? My LLC is showing losses right now but I'm worried about documenting everything properly.
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Justin Trejo
•I'm skeptical of tools like these. I tried something similar last year for my small business and it missed some key deductions. How does taxr.ai handle the hobby loss rules? I'm especially worried because I've been operating at a loss for 2 years now but legitimately trying to build my business.
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Romeo Barrett
•It works by analyzing your business documentation, receipts, and financial statements to identify deductible expenses while flagging potential issues. It's not a filing tool itself, but it gives you detailed guidance you can use with whatever tax prep method you choose. For hobby loss situations, it actually has a specific feature that helps you document your profit motive. It prompts you to upload your business plan, marketing materials, and other proof of legitimate business activity, then creates a defensible file explaining why your business isn't a hobby despite temporary losses. This was a lifesaver for me since I was also worried about the hobby loss scrutiny.
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Justin Trejo
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Alana Willis
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Tyler Murphy
•Wait, how does this service actually work? The IRS phone lines are notoriously impossible to get through - I've literally tried calling dozens of times for a question about my LLC taxes. Are you saying this somehow bypasses the normal wait times?
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Sara Unger
•This sounds like a scam. There's no way to "skip the line" with a government agency. They probably just keep calling for you, which you could do yourself. Plus, IRS agents often give conflicting advice anyway - I wouldn't trust critical tax decisions to a random phone agent.
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Alana Willis
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Sara Unger
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Butch Sledgehammer
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your LLC is taxed as an S-Corp, the rules for losses are a bit different than if you're a single-member LLC taxed as a sole prop. With an S-Corp, you need to have sufficient "basis" to deduct the losses. Your basis is generally your investment in the company plus loans you've made to it. Also, be careful with the vehicle deduction - if you buy a vehicle weighing over 6,000 pounds, you might be able to take advantage of more favorable depreciation rules. I did this with my real estate LLC and it made a huge difference.
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Freya Ross
•Can you explain a bit more about this 6,000 pound vehicle rule? I've heard about this before but don't fully understand why the weight matters. I'm looking at getting an SUV for my construction management business and wondering if this applies.
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Butch Sledgehammer
•The 6,000 pound rule refers to the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) and it matters because vehicles over this threshold qualify as "heavy vehicles" under Section 179 of the tax code. This classification allows for more generous depreciation deductions compared to regular passenger vehicles. For the 2025 tax year, regular passenger vehicles have strict depreciation limits (around $19,200 for the first year with bonus depreciation), but qualifying heavy SUVs, trucks, and vans can be eligible for much higher Section 179 deduction limits. This can potentially allow you to deduct a much larger portion of the vehicle cost in the first year. Just remember you still need to use the vehicle more than 50% for business to qualify, and you can only deduct the business-use percentage.
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Leslie Parker
I've had my LLC for 3 years now and here's something important I learned - track EVERYTHING and be ready to justify the business purpose. The IRS doesn't just look at whether expenses exceed income; they look at whether your expenses are "ordinary and necessary" for your type of business. A $65k vehicle might raise flags depending on your industry. If you're in luxury real estate, probably fine. If you're doing web design, they might question it. I'd recommend talking to an actual CPA before making big purchases like vehicles. The CPA fee is way cheaper than messing this up.
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Sergio Neal
•This is good advice. I got audited last year because my expenses were about 3x my income for two years straight. The IRS agent was especially focused on my home office and vehicle deductions. I had to provide calendars showing business meetings, mileage logs, and photos of my dedicated office space. It was a nightmare but I had good records so it worked out ok.
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Layla Mendes
Great question! Yes, you can absolutely deduct business expenses that exceed your LLC's income - this creates what's called a "net operating loss" that can actually benefit you tax-wise. Since you mentioned this is a side business alongside your day job, those business losses will typically flow through to your personal tax return (assuming your LLC is taxed as a sole proprietorship, which is the default for single-member LLCs). This means your business losses can potentially offset your W-2 income, reducing your overall tax liability. However, regarding that $65k vehicle - you generally can't deduct the full amount in year one. Vehicles are considered capital assets that must be depreciated over several years. That said, there are accelerated depreciation options like Section 179 deduction or bonus depreciation that might allow you to deduct a larger portion upfront, depending on the vehicle's weight and your business use percentage. A few important things to keep in mind: - Document everything meticulously - business purpose, mileage logs, receipts - Make sure expenses are "ordinary and necessary" for your specific type of business - Be prepared to demonstrate legitimate profit motive to avoid hobby loss rule issues - Consider consulting a CPA before making major purchases to ensure you're maximizing benefits while staying compliant The key is maintaining excellent records that clearly show business intent and proper expense documentation.
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Abigail Patel
•This is really helpful, thank you! I'm just getting started with my LLC and the whole depreciation vs. immediate deduction thing is confusing me. You mentioned Section 179 and bonus depreciation - are these things I can elect on my tax return, or do I need to make that decision when I purchase the vehicle? Also, is there a difference in how these work for brand new vs. used vehicles? I want to make sure I don't miss out on any opportunities to maximize my deductions.
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