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Can I declare 401k contributions as traditional IRA contributions on my taxes?

I'm super confused about something that happened during my tax filing yesterday. I was using TurboTax Premier to file my 2024 taxes and got connected with one of their tax experts for some help. During our conversation, this expert kept insisting that I could declare my 401k contributions as traditional IRA contributions on my return. This doesn't sound right to me at all! I've been googling this for the past hour and everything I'm reading seems to contradict what she told me. From what I understand, a 401k and an IRA are completely different types of retirement accounts with different rules and contribution limits. But she was SO adamant about it that now I'm second-guessing myself. Has anyone else heard of this? Can you actually count 401k contributions as traditional IRA contributions for tax purposes? I don't want to make a mistake on my return that could get me in trouble with the IRS down the road. Any clarification would be really appreciated!

Paolo Marino

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That tax expert was definitely giving you incorrect information. A 401(k) and a traditional IRA are two completely separate types of retirement accounts with different contribution limits, rules, and tax treatments. For 2024, you can contribute up to $23,000 to a 401(k) if you're under 50, plus an additional $7,500 if you're 50 or older. For a traditional IRA, the limit is much lower - $7,000 if you're under 50 and $8,000 if you're 50 or older. You cannot simply reclassify 401(k) contributions as traditional IRA contributions on your tax return. They must be reported accurately according to which type of account you actually contributed to. Misreporting this information could potentially trigger an audit or corrections from the IRS. It sounds like the tax expert might have been confused or misinformed. I'd recommend either trying to speak with a different tax professional at TurboTax or considering another tax preparation service if you're still unsure.

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Thanks for confirming what I thought! I was so confused because she seemed really confident about it. Is there any scenario where these two might get mixed up or treated the same way for tax purposes? I'm wondering if she was referring to something specific that I misunderstood.

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Paolo Marino

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There are very few scenarios where there might be confusion, but they're still fundamentally different accounts. One possible area of confusion might be rollovers - you can roll over 401(k) funds into a traditional IRA when you leave an employer, but that's a specific process and doesn't mean they're the same for contribution reporting purposes. Another possibility is that she was referring to the fact that both traditional 401(k) and traditional IRA contributions can reduce your taxable income, but they do so in different ways and are reported on different lines of your tax return. 401(k) contributions typically reduce your W-2 wages directly (Box 1), while traditional IRA contributions are deducted separately on your tax return, assuming you qualify for the deduction based on income limits.

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Amina Bah

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Malik Jackson

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Here's another point of confusion that might explain what happened with your TurboTax expert: Sometimes people who are eligible can make BOTH 401k and traditional IRA contributions in the same year. Maybe the tax expert was trying to ask if you had made any traditional IRA contributions IN ADDITION TO your 401k contributions? For 2024, you can contribute to both types of accounts, but whether your traditional IRA contribution is deductible depends on your income level and whether you're covered by a workplace plan like a 401k.

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That's an interesting thought! Maybe there was just a communication breakdown. I was so focused on my 401k contributions that I might have misunderstood if she was asking about separate IRA contributions. Is it worth going back to TurboTax and clarifying this with a different expert?

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Malik Jackson

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Absolutely worth clarifying with a different TurboTax expert. Ask specifically about the deductibility of traditional IRA contributions when you already participate in a 401k plan. The rules get complicated based on your income level and filing status. For context, if you're single and covered by a workplace retirement plan, your ability to deduct traditional IRA contributions starts phasing out at an income of $77,000 and disappears completely at $87,000 (for 2024). The ranges are different if you're married or if only one spouse has a workplace plan. But regardless, 401k and IRA contributions are always reported separately - they're never the same thing.

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This is definitely a common confusion! I work at a financial services firm and get this question all the time. To be super clear: 1) 401k = employer-sponsored plan with $23,000 contribution limit for 2024 (under age 50) 2) Traditional IRA = individual retirement account with $7,000 limit for 2024 (under age 50) These are SEPARATE accounts with different limits. You report them differently on your taxes and they appear on different forms.

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Ravi Patel

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What about a SIMPLE IRA? Those are employer-sponsored but have "IRA" in the name. Could that be what the TurboTax person was confusing?

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