What's the key difference between a traditional IRA and a 401k? Confused about reporting them
So I started a new job last year and they offer a 401k plan which I signed up for. But now I'm looking at my tax forms and I'm confused...I also have a traditional IRA from a few years back that I haven't contributed to recently. When I'm filling out my taxes it's asking about retirement contributions and I'm not sure if I should be putting my 401k contributions in the spot where it asks about traditional IRA contributions? They seem really similar from what I can tell - both are pre-tax retirement accounts right? But then why are they treated differently on tax forms? Sorry if this is a dumb question, first time dealing with both accounts in the same year.
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Nia Watson
These are definitely easy to mix up but they're actually quite different retirement vehicles! A traditional IRA is an Individual Retirement Account that you open yourself, separate from employment. The annual contribution limit for 2025 is $7,000 ($8,000 if you're 50+). You manage this account completely on your own. A 401k is an employer-sponsored retirement plan. The contribution limit is much higher - $23,000 for 2025 ($30,500 if 50+). Your employer sets this up, may provide matching contributions, and you typically select from their menu of investment options. On your tax forms, they are reported separately. Your 401k contributions should already be reflected on your W-2 (they reduce your Box 1 wages). IRA contributions are reported separately on your return. Never report 401k contributions as IRA contributions - they are tracked differently by the IRS.
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Alberto Souchard
•Wait so my 401k contributions are already factored into my W-2? I didn't realize that. Does that mean I don't need to report them anywhere else on my tax return? And what if my employer matches some of my contributions?
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Nia Watson
•Yes, your 401k contributions are already reducing your taxable income on your W-2. Look at Box 1 (Wages) - it should be lower than your actual salary because pre-tax contributions to your 401k have already been subtracted. You'll also see your 401k contributions listed in Box 12 with code D. So you don't need to claim an additional deduction for them. Your employer's matching contributions aren't reported on your tax return at all. They go directly into your 401k but don't count toward your contribution limit or affect your taxes now (you'll pay taxes when you withdraw the money in retirement).
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PaulineW
Another important difference is that with a 401k, your employer might match some of your contributions (free money!!!), but IRAs don't have any matching. Also, if you leave your job, you'll need to decide what to do with your 401k - either leave it there, roll it to your new employer's plan, or roll it to an IRA.
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Annabel Kimball
•Can you contribute to both a 401k and an IRA in the same year? And if I already have a 401k at work, can I still deduct traditional IRA contributions?
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PaulineW
•Yes, you can definitely contribute to both a 401k and an IRA in the same year. They have separate contribution limits. Whether you can deduct traditional IRA contributions when you have a 401k depends on your income. For 2025, if you're single and your modified AGI is below $78,000, you can take a full deduction. Between $78,000-$88,000, you get a partial deduction. Above $88,000, no deduction. For married filing jointly, the phase-out range is $123,000-$143,000. Even if you can't deduct it, you could still do a non-deductible IRA contribution and then convert to Roth (the backdoor Roth strategy).
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Chris Elmeda
Don't forget another major difference - with a 401k you're usually limited to whatever investment options your employer's plan offers, which might be pretty limited and have higher fees. With an IRA you can open it anywhere (Vanguard, Fidelity, etc) and choose from thousands of investment options. That's why many people max their 401k up to any employer match, then contribute to an IRA, then go back to the 401k if they still have money to save.
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Jean Claude
•Does it make more sense to max out your 401k first or your IRA first? My company matches the first 5% in my 401k but the investment options aren't great.
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