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Malik Jackson

Can I create my own W-2 for my LLC if my payroll service didn't send one?

So I had an LLC last year and was using Gusto for payroll. They processed about 6 paychecks for me before I decided to cancel the subscription mid-year because it was getting too expensive. Fast forward to January, and I never received my W-2 forms from them. When I called Gusto about this, they told me they've already passed their "cut-off period" for generating W-2s and suggested I could somehow create one myself using the paystubs they provided. I do have all 6 paystubs from when I was using their service. I'm wondering if it's even legal for me to create a W-2 myself? Can I just download a W-2 form from the IRS website and fill it out based on the information from my paystubs? Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Tax season is already stressful enough without this headache.

This is actually a common issue with small business owners. You can't technically "create" your own W-2 as an employee of your LLC - W-2s must be issued by the employer (which is your LLC, not you personally). Since your LLC was using Gusto as a payroll processor, they should have provided this service. Their "cut-off period" excuse isn't really valid - employers are legally required to provide W-2s by January 31st. That said, here's what you should do: 1) Contact Gusto again and firmly request they generate your W-2. Reference the legal requirement for employers to provide W-2s. 2) If they still refuse, you have two options: - Use your final paystub of the year which should show year-to-date totals for all tax withholdings. This information can be used when filing your return. - File Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2) with your tax return. This is the IRS-approved way to file when you can't get a W-2. You cannot simply create your own W-2 form from the IRS website as these forms have specific formatting and reporting requirements.

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Ravi Patel

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Thanks for the detailed response! Quick question - if I file that Form 4852, will it raise red flags with the IRS? And do I need to provide any proof that I tried to get the W-2 from Gusto?

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Filing Form 4852 will not automatically trigger an audit or raise red flags if the information is accurate and matches what was actually withheld. The IRS understands that sometimes employees cannot obtain W-2s for legitimate reasons. You should document your attempts to obtain the W-2 from Gusto, including dates of calls and emails. Form 4852 asks you to describe your efforts to obtain the missing form, so you'll need to provide this information on the form itself. Keep your paystubs indefinitely as supporting documentation in case the IRS ever has questions.

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Omar Zaki

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Omar Zaki

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Diego Flores

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Does this actually work? I've tried calling the IRS like 5 times this year and always hang up after being on hold for 2+ hours. How long did it take them to call you back?

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Sean Flanagan

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Just an FYI - I'm a small business accountant and deal with this often. Gusto is actually violating their responsibility as a payroll processor by refusing to generate your W-2. They are required to fulfill this obligation regardless of whether you're still a paying customer or not. If I were you, I'd escalate this to a supervisor at Gusto and mention that you're considering filing a complaint with the IRS. They might suddenly find the ability to generate that W-2 after all.

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Malik Jackson

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Thanks for this insight! I've been getting the runaround from their regular customer service. Do you know if there's a specific department I should ask for when I call back? Or should I just directly ask for a supervisor?

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Sean Flanagan

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I would start by asking for a supervisor or manager in their tax compliance department specifically. Be polite but firm that you understand they have a legal obligation to provide this document regardless of subscription status. If the first person you speak with can't help, ask if there's an escalation process for tax document requests. Sometimes these companies have separate teams that handle regulatory compliance issues versus general customer service. If all else fails, mentioning that you're considering filing a complaint with the IRS (Form 3949-A) often motivates companies to resolve these issues quickly.

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Zara Mirza

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I'm actually going through something similar with a different payroll service. What happens if you don't get this resolved before the filing deadline? Is it better to file an extension or try to file with the substitute form?

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NebulaNinja

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You should definitely file an extension if you can't get this resolved before the deadline. Form 4868 gives you until October to file your return, though you still need to pay any estimated taxes by the regular deadline. The extension just gives you more time to sort out the documentation issues without penalties for late filing.

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Omar Zaki

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I went through this exact situation with my S-Corp a few years back when my payroll company went out of business mid-year. Here's what I learned from my CPA and the IRS: 1. **Document everything** - Keep records of all your attempts to contact Gusto, including dates, times, and what they told you. Screenshot any emails or chat conversations. 2. **Know your rights** - As others mentioned, Gusto has a legal obligation to provide your W-2 regardless of your subscription status. The fact that they processed payroll for you creates this responsibility. 3. **Form 4852 is your friend** - If Gusto continues to refuse, Form 4852 (Substitute W-2) is the legitimate IRS-approved solution. Make sure to use your final paystub's year-to-date totals, as these should match what was reported to Social Security. 4. **Consider state requirements too** - Don't forget that you may also need state wage statements depending on where your LLC was based. The good news is that this situation is more common than you'd think, and the IRS has established procedures to handle it. Just make sure all your numbers are accurate and you have documentation showing your good faith efforts to obtain the proper W-2.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the state requirements you mentioned - how do you find out what your specific state needs? I had my LLC registered in Delaware but was working from California, so I'm not sure which state's requirements apply to my situation.

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