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Eleanor Foster

Can I add 2022 tax debt to my existing IRS payment plan without defaulting?

I'm currently on an installment agreement for my 2021 taxes and just realized I'll owe for 2022 as well. Everything I've read online says that if you contact the IRS before the new tax debt is assessed, they can add it to your existing payment plan without triggering a default. Well, I called the IRS yesterday and got completely different information. The agent told me they can't do anything until my 2022 taxes are filed and the new balance posts to my account. When I specifically asked if this would put my current payment plan in default, he said yes, but mentioned I could "call back to amend" after that happens. This seems totally contradictory to everything I've read! I thought the whole point of calling ahead was to AVOID defaulting on the current installment agreement. Now I'm really confused about what to do. Has anyone dealt with adding new tax debt to an existing payment plan? Did you have to default first or were you able to modify it beforehand?

Lucas Turner

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You've encountered one of those frustrating IRS situations! Let me clarify what's happening here. The IRS agent is technically correct, but their explanation wasn't complete. Here's what you need to know: When you have an existing installment agreement and incur new tax debt, the system will automatically flag your account for default when the new assessment posts. However, you have options to prevent long-term consequences. The key is timing. File your 2022 return as soon as possible. Once the new tax debt posts to your account (usually 2-3 weeks after filing), immediately call the IRS to request a modification to your existing agreement. While your agreement will technically be in "default" status briefly, the IRS typically provides a 30-day window to resolve these situations before taking collection actions. What the agent should have explained is that this temporary default status won't harm you as long as you promptly request the modification after filing. The IRS calls this a "streamlined modification" and it's designed for exactly this situation.

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Kai Rivera

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But doesn't this temporary default status affect your credit score? I had heard that any IRS payment plan default shows up on your credit report. Also, do they increase your monthly payment amount when they add the new tax debt or just extend the length of the payment plan?

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Lucas Turner

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The temporary default status itself doesn't get reported to credit bureaus - the IRS only reports unpaid tax liens, and they've significantly reduced this practice in recent years under their "Fresh Start" initiative. Regarding your payment amount, it depends on your total debt and financial situation. If your new total debt remains under $50,000, you'll likely qualify for a streamlined modification where they can either increase your monthly payment or extend your payment term. If keeping your current payment amount is important, make sure to specifically request an extension of terms rather than a payment increase when you call.

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Anna Stewart

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Kaylee Cook

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Lara Woods

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Adrian Hughes

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you FILE your 2022 return on time even if you can't pay the full amount owed! The penalty for not filing is much higher than the penalty for not paying. Also, when you call to modify your payment plan, ask specifically if you qualify for the "One-Time Skip" provision that can reinstate your original agreement without counting as a full default on your record. Not all agents know about this option, but it can make a difference for future interactions with the IRS.

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Thanks for this advice! I was so focused on the payment aspect that I wasn't thinking clearly about filing on time. Do you know approximately how long after filing it takes for the new tax debt to show up in their system? And is there any advantage to e-filing versus paper filing in this situation?

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Adrian Hughes

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E-filing is definitely the way to go in your situation. When you e-file, the new tax assessment typically appears in the IRS system within 2-3 weeks, compared to 6-8 weeks or longer for paper filing. That faster processing gives you the advantage of being able to address the modification sooner. As for the "One-Time Skip" provision, it's technically called a Reinstatement and is available if you haven't defaulted on an installment agreement in the past 12 months. Not all phone representatives are familiar with it, so you might need to politely ask to speak with someone in the collections department who can help with reinstating a defaulted installment agreement.

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Just wanted to share that depending on your total tax debt amount, another option is to request what's called a "tiered" installment agreement from the IRS. I had a similar situation last year, and the IRS set me up with a plan where I paid a higher amount for the first 12 months to clear the newer tax debt, then my payment dropped down to the original amount for the remainder of the older debt. The benefit was that it looked like one continuous agreement rather than a defaulted one that got modified. Might be worth asking about when you call!

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Ian Armstrong

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That's really interesting, I've never heard of a tiered agreement before. Did you have to provide any financial statements or proof of hardship to qualify for this? Or is it something they offer to everyone?

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