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Zara Rashid

Does the IRS not allow installment plans for tax debts under $10,000? Friend was told they can't set one up?

So I've been helping my cousin who's going through a tough financial patch this year. He's working two jobs and still ended up owing about $7,900 in taxes that he just can't pay in full right now. I suggested he set up a payment plan with the IRS since that seemed like the obvious solution. I've heard they're pretty reasonable about this stuff as long as you're proactive. Well, he called me yesterday super stressed because he said when he finally got through to an IRS agent, they told him the IRS "doesn't offer installment plans for amounts under $10,000." That makes zero sense to me! I've been searching the IRS website and can't find anything about a minimum amount needed for an installment plan. Actually, everything I've read suggests smaller amounts are EASIER to set up payment plans for, not impossible. Has anyone else run into this? I'm wondering if the agent was confused or if my cousin misunderstood something. He's pretty overwhelmed right now so that's definitely possible. But if this is actually an IRS policy, it seems like it would leave a lot of people with smaller tax debts in a really bad spot. Any advice would be super appreciated!

Luca Romano

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That information is definitely incorrect. The IRS absolutely offers installment plans for amounts under $10,000. In fact, they have what's called a "Guaranteed Installment Agreement" for taxpayers who owe less than $10,000. To qualify for this guaranteed agreement: 1) You must owe less than $10,000, 2) You've filed all required tax returns, 3) You've paid all required taxes for the previous five years, and 4) You agree to pay the full amount within 3 years. For amounts under $10,000, the application process is actually streamlined compared to larger debts. Your cousin can apply online through the IRS website using the Online Payment Agreement tool, by phone, or by submitting Form 9465 (Installment Agreement Request). Perhaps the agent misunderstood the question or your cousin misunderstood the response. It's also possible the agent was referring to some other specific program.

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Zara Rashid

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Thank you so much for clearing that up! I was really confused because everything I'd read suggested smaller amounts were actually easier to get on a payment plan. Do you know if there are any specific fees associated with setting up these plans? My cousin is really tight on money right now so I want to make sure I'm giving him complete info.

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Luca Romano

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There are some fees for setting up an installment agreement, but they vary based on how you apply and how you plan to pay. If your cousin applies online and agrees to direct debit payments, the fee is lowest at $31. If he applies by phone, mail, or in-person, the fee is $107 with direct debit or $225 without direct debit. If your cousin qualifies as a low-income taxpayer (generally at or below 250% of federal poverty guidelines), he may qualify for reduced fees or fee waivers. He should specifically ask about the low-income taxpayer waiver or reduction if he thinks he might qualify.

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Nia Jackson

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Yuki Ito

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Just to add another data point - I went through this exact situation last year. Owed about $5,800 and set up an installment plan with zero issues. The confusion might be about the different TYPES of installment plans. For amounts under $10,000, you qualify for a "guaranteed" installment agreement which is actually easier to get than plans for higher amounts. For amounts over $10K but under $50K, there's a "streamlined" installment plan which requires a bit more information but is still pretty straightforward. The agent your cousin spoke to might have been referring to some other program, or maybe was talking about an "offer in compromise" which is totally different - that's when you negotiate to pay less than the full amount owed.

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Carmen Lopez

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Do you remember what the monthly payment amount was for your $5,800 balance? I'm trying to figure out if they let you choose how much to pay each month or if they assign an amount.

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Yuki Ito

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You generally can choose your monthly payment amount as long as the debt will be paid off within the required timeframe. For amounts under $10,000, that timeframe is 3 years (36 months). So in my case, the minimum payment would have been about $161 per month not including interest and penalties. I actually opted to pay $200 per month to account for the ongoing interest and penalties and to clear the debt faster. They let me choose this amount during the application process. I set up direct debit from my checking account to avoid having to remember to make the payments and to get the lowest setup fee.

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Andre Dupont

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One important thing to note - if your cousin owes for the 2023 tax year and hasn't filed yet, he should still file by the deadline even if he can't pay everything! The failure-to-file penalty is much worse than the failure-to-pay penalty. Also, I'd recommend having him call back and speak to a different agent, or trying the online payment agreement system at irs.gov directly. The online system is actually pretty easy to use for amounts under $10K.

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QuantumQuasar

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Completely agree about filing on time! The failure-to-file penalty is 5% of the unpaid taxes for each month your return is late, up to 25%. The failure-to-pay penalty is much lower at 0.5% per month.

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Zara Rashid

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Thank you for pointing this out! He did file on time, he just couldn't pay the full amount at once. I'll definitely suggest he try the online system since that seems to be the consensus here - much easier than trying to call again.

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