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Ethan Anderson

Backdoor Roth IRA Conversion Issue with Tax Software - Form 8606 Problems

I need some help with my Backdoor Roth IRA situation! I've successfully done Backdoor Roth conversions in 2021 and 2022 because my income was above the limit for direct Roth contributions. Both conversions were clean - put money in Traditional IRA, immediately converted to Roth, no money left in Traditional, and no issues filing taxes those years. In January 2023, I did another Backdoor Roth conversion of $8,125 for the 2023 tax year. Same process as before - contributed to Traditional IRA then converted to Roth IRA literally the same day. But now I'm doing my 2023 taxes and something seems off with Form 8606. Part I is completely empty. Part II shows $8,126 in Line 16, $0 in Line 17, and $8,126 in Line 18 for the Taxable amount. When I filed in 2021 and 2022, Part I was always filled out and Line 18 showed $0. I'm following the exact same steps in my tax software that I used previously. I'm wondering if there's an issue because I lost my job in late 2022 and received severance in January 2023 (shows on my W-2 with Box 13 checked). Could this somehow be affecting how my tax software is handling the Backdoor Roth conversion? Anyone dealt with this Form 8606 issue before?

Layla Mendes

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This definitely sounds like a software issue. Form 8606 Part I is specifically for nondeductible contributions to traditional IRAs, which is exactly what you're doing in a Backdoor Roth. Part II is for distributions from IRAs, which includes Roth conversions. If Part I is empty, the software isn't recording your nondeductible contribution correctly. For a proper Backdoor Roth reporting, Part I should show your $8,125 contribution, with a basis of $8,125. Then Part II should reflect the conversion, with Lines 17 and 18 showing $0 (meaning no taxable amount) since you're converting already-taxed money. The software seems to be treating your contribution as deductible and then taxing the entire conversion amount, which is incorrect for your situation. This would essentially double-tax that money. Try going back through the software and specifically look for where you designate the Traditional IRA contribution as nondeductible. There's usually a specific question about whether you can deduct your contribution - make sure you're selecting "no" or "nondeductible.

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Thanks for the reply! But I'm confused about something. Doesn't the fact that I contributed to a Traditional IRA and converted to Roth on the same day mean there's no earnings, so there should be nothing taxable? Or does the software still need me to specifically mark the contribution as nondeductible even if there were no earnings? Also, is it possible the severance payment is somehow making the software think I can deduct the Traditional IRA contribution?

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Layla Mendes

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You're right that contributing and converting on the same day typically means no earnings between the contribution and conversion, which is good practice. However, the software still absolutely needs to know the contribution was nondeductible - this is critical regardless of earnings. If you don't specifically mark the contribution as nondeductible, the software assumes it's deductible (reducing your taxable income now), and then logically taxes the full amount when converted to Roth (because you'd be moving pre-tax money to a post-tax account). This is why your Line 18 shows the full amount as taxable. Regarding your severance, that's unlikely to affect the deductibility designation itself. The severance is just treated as ordinary income. However, if your income dropped significantly due to job loss, the software might be calculating that you're eligible to deduct Traditional IRA contributions when you weren't in previous years. You need to manually override this if that's happening.

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Aria Park

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Noah Ali

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Does this actually work? I've been doing Backdoor Roth for years but this year I changed jobs mid-year and now I'm worried my 8606 might be messed up too. Does it work with multiple tax software options or just the major ones?

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Aria Park

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Noah Ali

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Alicia Stern

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This exact thing happened to me! Here's what you need to do - in your tax software, you need to go back and make sure you're indicating that your Traditional IRA contribution is NON-DEDUCTIBLE. Most software has a specific question about this. If you don't mark it as non-deductible, the software assumes it's deductible, and then logically taxes you when you convert to Roth (since you'd be moving pre-tax money to a post-tax account). The key sequence matters too: 1. Enter Traditional IRA contribution 2. Mark it as NON-DEDUCTIBLE 3. Enter the Roth conversion If you do these in the wrong order in some software, it can mess up the 8606. I've been doing Backdoor Roth for 7 years and had this issue once when I switched tax software.

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Thank you for the specific steps! This makes a lot of sense. I checked my tax software again and I think I discovered the issue - there's a specific question about "Do you qualify to deduct your IRA contributions?" that I must have answered incorrectly. Previous years I knew to say "No" but this year with the job change and severance, I might have clicked "Yes" by mistake. I'll try redoing those steps in the correct order. Would it also make sense to just delete all my IRA entries and start fresh with these steps in mind?

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Alicia Stern

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Yes, I'd recommend deleting all the IRA-related entries and starting fresh. That's the cleanest approach. Some tax software doesn't handle corrections well when it comes to the 8606 form. When you restart, just follow those steps in order. The key is definitely that "Do you qualify to deduct" question - that's the exact one that determines how the software handles everything downstream. Always answer "No" for a backdoor Roth strategy since the whole point is you're over the income limits for deductible contributions. And don't worry about the severance - it's just regular income. It doesn't change how backdoor Roth contributions work. The W-2 Box 13 check is typically for retirement plan participation at that employer, which is separate from your individual IRA strategy.

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Has anyone else noticed that Backdoor Roth reporting seems to be getting more scrutiny from the IRS lately? I did mine the same way for years but got a letter asking for clarification on my 2022 return. Make absolutely sure your 8606 is filled out correctly.

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Drake

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I haven't heard about increased scrutiny, but I can tell you that reporting Backdoor Roth incorrectly is definitely a red flag. When your 1099-R shows a distribution (the conversion) but there's no corresponding basis tracking on Form 8606, it creates a mismatch that their systems can easily detect.

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