As trustee of an irrevocable trust with 2 vacant properties, can I use them for any tax benefits?
So I recently became the trustee of my uncle's irrevocable trust after he passed away last year. The trust contains 2 residential properties that are currently sitting empty. I've been managing the trust for about 5 months now and trying to figure out the best way to handle these properties tax-wise. Neither property is generating any income right now. One needs some repairs before it can be rented, and the other is in a market where rentals are really slow. I'm wondering if there's any way I can use these properties to my advantage when it comes to taxes? Specifically, would it be possible to somehow classify them as rental properties that just happen to not have tenants right now, and then write off the expenses and depreciation as losses? I'm paying property taxes, insurance, utilities, and maintenance costs out of the trust, but not seeing any income. I feel like there should be some tax benefit available here since these properties aren't being used personally by anyone. I'm still learning the ropes of being a trustee and would appreciate any guidance. Meeting with a tax professional next month but wanted to get some initial advice.
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Drake
This is a really important question that requires careful consideration. As a trustee, you have a fiduciary duty to manage the trust assets properly, which includes tax planning. First, you need to understand that the tax treatment depends on the trust's status as either a simple or complex trust, and whether you've officially designated these properties as income-producing assets. You can't simply "claim" they're rental properties without actually attempting to rent them. The IRS looks for genuine profit motive. If you're actively trying to rent them (listing them, showing them, making repairs to get them rent-ready), you can potentially deduct ordinary and necessary expenses related to rental activities, even during vacancy periods. However, these deductions would typically benefit the trust itself (or the beneficiaries if income is distributed), not you personally as the trustee. Remember that trusts are separate tax entities with their own tax identification numbers and filing requirements. If you're not making genuine efforts to rent the properties, the IRS could view expense deductions as improper. You should document all marketing efforts, repairs, and attempts to find tenants to demonstrate your profit motive.
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Gabriel Graham
•Thanks for the detailed response. The trust is a complex trust, and I haven't officially designated them as income-producing assets yet. I've been focusing on getting the first property fixed up before marketing it, but haven't done any actual marketing. Do you think it would be reasonable to start marketing the properties now even though one isn't really ready, just to establish that profit motive? And would the trust need to show a profit eventually, or can it continue generating losses through depreciation and expenses?
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Drake
•Yes, starting to market the properties would help establish your profit motive, even if one isn't fully ready. You can advertise it as "coming soon" or "under renovation" so potential tenants know what to expect. Document everything - repair costs, listing activities, inquiries from potential tenants, etc. The IRS does expect a profit eventually. There's a "hobby loss" rule that presumes an activity is for profit if it makes money in 3 out of 5 consecutive years. While real estate often generates paper losses due to depreciation even when cash flow is positive, you should have a business plan that shows a path to profitability. This demonstrates you're operating with a genuine profit motive rather than just seeking tax benefits.
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Sarah Jones
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Amara Torres
Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - you need to check the TRUST DOCUMENT itself. Many irrevocable trusts have specific provisions about how trust assets should be managed, and some even explicitly address whether properties should be income-producing. As trustee, you're bound by the terms of the trust. If the document says the properties should be maintained for eventual use by beneficiaries, you might be violating your duties by trying to rent them out. Conversely, if it says assets should be managed to produce income, you could be in breach by leaving them vacant. This isn't just a tax question - it's a fiduciary responsibility question. I'd strongly recommend having an attorney who specializes in trust administration review the document before making any decisions about tax treatment.
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Gabriel Graham
•That's an excellent point I hadn't fully considered. The trust document does state that assets should be "prudently managed to preserve principal while generating reasonable income for beneficiaries" but doesn't specifically address real estate. Would that language suggest I should be trying to rent them out?
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Amara Torres
•Based on that language, yes, you likely have a fiduciary duty to try to generate income from these properties. The phrase "generating reasonable income for beneficiaries" creates an expectation that trust assets will be managed productively, not just held. This actually works in your favor tax-wise, as it supports your position that these are income-producing properties temporarily vacant, rather than personal-use properties. Document your efforts to prepare and market the properties for rental as part of fulfilling your trustee duties. Keep detailed records of all repairs, improvements, marketing attempts, and inquiries - this serves both your fiduciary obligation to beneficiaries and your tax documentation needs.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
Be really careful here! I tried something similar with my family trust properties and got audited. The IRS agent specifically focused on whether I had a genuine profit motive or was just trying to create tax losses. What saved me was having documentation showing: 1) Multiple attempts to rent the properties (saved emails with real estate agents, copies of listings) 2) Competitive market analysis showing reasonable rent expectations 3) Records of property improvements specifically aimed at making them rentable 4) A written business plan showing projected income and expenses Without these, I would have been toast. The agent told me they see lots of trustees trying to claim "ghost" rental properties that are really just sitting empty with no real attempt to rent them.
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Mason Kaczka
•Did the IRS give you any trouble about depreciation specifically? I'm in a similar situation and my accountant says depreciation is the biggest red flag for vacant properties since you can claim it even with zero income.
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