If irrevocable trust pays for all house expenses on property it owns - does this count as a distribution?

This is actually a good question with some nuance to it. The short answer is: it depends on how the trust is structured and what the trust document actually says. Generally speaking, when an irrevocable trust owns a property and pays for the expenses of that property, those payments are typically considered trust expenses rather than distributions to beneficiaries. This is because the trust is maintaining its own asset. However, if you and your siblings are using the property for personal enjoyment without paying fair market value rent, there could be what's called "imputed income" to consider. The value of that free usage might be considered a distribution to you as beneficiaries. The key factors here would be: 1) What does the trust document say about beneficiary usage of trust assets? 2) Is the trust a simple or complex trust? 3) How is the trust being reported for income tax purposes (grantor or non-grantor)?

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Another thing to consider is whether your trust is a grantor or non-grantor trust. If it's a grantor trust, then your parents would still be responsible for reporting the trust income on their personal returns, and the question of distributions becomes less relevant for you as beneficiaries. Also, some irrevocable trusts have special provisions that make them intentionally defective for income tax purposes (IDGTs), which changes how they're treated for income tax vs. estate tax.

I'm in a similar situation but we solved it by having all beneficiaries make small annual contributions to the trust for "maintenance fees." It's way below market rate rent, but our attorney said it helps establish that we're not just getting completely free use which could be viewed as distributions.

This is a complex area where the facts really matter. Based on what you've described, the trust paying for basic property maintenance expenses (taxes, utilities, insurance) on property it owns would typically be considered trust expenses rather than distributions to beneficiaries. The trust is maintaining its own asset. However, the free use of the property by beneficiaries could potentially create imputed income issues. The IRS could argue that the fair rental value of your usage represents a distribution to you. This is especially true if the usage is significant or if certain expenses are more "personal" in nature (like premium cable packages). Key considerations: Does your trust document explicitly allow beneficiary use without compensation? How many days per year does each beneficiary use the property? Are there any expenses that are clearly for beneficiary convenience rather than property maintenance? I'd strongly recommend having your trustee consult with a tax attorney who specializes in trust taxation. The $28,000 annual expense level makes this worth getting right, and the stakes are high enough that professional guidance would be money well spent.