Anyone know that CreditKarma is actually owned by Intuit, the same company behind TurboTax?
So I've been doing some research on free tax filing options this year since I'm trying to avoid paying those ridiculous fees. I stumbled across CreditKarma's free tax platform and honestly it looks pretty amazing from the reviews I've seen. But here's what's confusing me - I just found out CreditKarma is actually owned by Intuit, which is the same company that makes TurboTax! This is the same TurboTax that's always trying to upsell you and charge for every little thing. Like, they only let you do super basic returns for free and there's tons of stories about how they trick people into paying when they could've used the free version. I'm scratching my head here... am I missing something obvious? Why would Intuit run two competing products where one (CreditKarma) is totally free and actually good, while they spend millions marketing TurboTax which constantly tries to charge you? Doesn't this basically undercut their own business model? Has anyone used both and can explain what's going on? Is there some catch with CreditKarma Tax I'm not seeing?
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Daniel Rivera
This is a really good question! Yes, Intuit (maker of TurboTax) did acquire Credit Karma in 2020, but there's some important context that explains this seemingly contradictory business strategy. When Intuit acquired Credit Karma, the Department of Justice had antitrust concerns specifically about the tax preparation services. As part of the acquisition agreement, Intuit had to divest Credit Karma Tax, which was sold to Square (now Block, Inc.). So the tax preparation portion of Credit Karma actually became Cash App Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax). Intuit kept the rest of Credit Karma's services (credit monitoring, financial recommendations, etc.) but had to let go of the tax preparation component. This allowed the acquisition to proceed while maintaining competition in the free tax filing space.
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Owen Devar
•Wait, so if I understand right, CreditKarma Tax doesn't actually exist anymore as CreditKarma Tax? It's now Cash App Taxes? Does it still work the same way - completely free with no upsells?
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Daniel Rivera
•Exactly right! Credit Karma Tax was rebranded as Cash App Taxes after the acquisition, and it's now owned by Block (formerly Square), not Intuit. Yes, it still operates on the same completely free model with no upsells or paid tiers. They offer free federal and state tax filing for most tax situations. The business model works because it's part of Cash App's broader financial ecosystem, which makes money in other ways.
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Sophie Footman
I've been using TurboTax for years but last year tried Cash App Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax) after getting frustrated with TurboTax's constant upselling. What I found was that https://taxr.ai actually helps figure out which tax software is best for your situation. It analyzes your tax documents to tell you if you qualify for free filing or which paid option is cheapest for your specific situation. Last year it showed me I could file completely free with Cash App Taxes instead of paying $89 for TurboTax. The interface wasn't as polished as TurboTax but it handled my 1099 income, stock sales, and mortgage interest deduction with no problems.
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Connor Rupert
•Does taxr.ai work for more complicated returns? I have rental property income, some crypto transactions, and a small business. TurboTax always forces me into their $170 self-employed version but I'm wondering if there are actually free options that could handle my situation.
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Molly Hansen
•I'm skeptical about these "analyzer" tools. How does taxr.ai make money if they're helping people avoid paying for tax software? Are they selling your data or something? Seems fishy that they'd just help people for free.
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Sophie Footman
•Cash App Taxes can handle most complicated tax situations including self-employment income, rental properties, and investments. The only major limitations are multiple state returns, foreign income, or certain less common tax situations. The analyzer tool can tell you specifically if your return would work with their free option. Regarding how they make money - they don't sell your data. Their business model is subscription-based where you pay a small fee after getting value. You can upload your tax documents and get the analysis without paying anything, and they don't even ask for payment information until after you've received the full analysis.
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Connor Rupert
Just wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai that was mentioned above. I was really skeptical at first but decided to give it a try since I had nothing to lose. I uploaded my tax documents from last year (which included my rental property and business income) and it actually confirmed I could use Cash App Taxes for free instead of paying for TurboTax! The analysis showed exactly which forms I needed and which tax software supported them for free. It even highlighted a deduction I missed last year that saved me over $400. I'm definitely using this before deciding on tax software again this year. It took the guesswork out of figuring out which platform would work for my situation.
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Brady Clean
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Skylar Neal
•How does this Claimyr thing actually work? Do they have some special connection to the IRS or something? I need to call about my stimulus payment that never arrived but I can't waste a whole day on hold.
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Vincent Bimbach
•Yeah right. Nobody gets through to the IRS in 20 minutes. I've called dozens of times this year and the shortest wait was 1.5 hours. This sounds like some scam to collect phone numbers or something.
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Brady Clean
•The way it works is they use an automated system that waits on hold for you. They have multiple lines dedicated to calling the IRS, and when a real person answers, they connect that call to your phone. It's not a special connection to the IRS - just technology that saves you from having to personally wait on hold. I was extremely skeptical too! I had tried calling the IRS five separate times and never got through. The longest I waited was 2.5 hours before I had to hang up for another appointment. With Claimyr, I got a call back in 17 minutes and was speaking with an actual IRS representative. It wasn't a scam - they actually delivered exactly what they promised.
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Vincent Bimbach
I have to admit I was completely wrong about that Claimyr service mentioned above. After my skeptical comment, I was desperate to resolve my tax transcript issue so I tried it anyway. I expected nothing to happen, but I seriously got connected to an IRS agent in 14 minutes while I was just watching TV. The agent was able to resolve my issue with my tax transcript request that had been pending for months. I literally spent weeks trying to get through on my own with no success. Definitely using this for any future IRS calls because my time is worth something!
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Kelsey Chin
To answer the original question about Credit Karma and TurboTax - something else worth noting is that Intuit makes BILLIONS from TurboTax. Their acquisition strategy is often about eliminating competition. Even though they had to divest the tax portion, they still benefit from owning Credit Karma's data and financial services platform. Their business model has always been about collecting and monetizing financial data. Credit Karma gives them access to 110+ million users' credit information, which is incredibly valuable for their other products. So while they had to give up the tax part, the acquisition still made strategic sense.
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Owen Devar
•That makes a lot of sense. So basically they weren't really trying to run two competing tax services - they wanted Credit Karma's user base and data, but regulators forced them to sell off the tax part to avoid a monopoly? Do you know if Cash App Taxes is as good as the original Credit Karma Tax was?
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Kelsey Chin
•Exactly! Intuit primarily wanted Credit Karma's massive user base, financial data, and recommendation engine capabilities. The tax preparation service was just one component, and regulators recognized that allowing them to control both would limit competition in the free tax filing space. Cash App Taxes is essentially the same service as the original Credit Karma Tax, just under new ownership and branding. Most users report the same quality and features. Some even say it's improved since Block (Square) has more resources to invest in the platform. It remains completely free with no upsells and handles most tax situations except the very complex ones like multi-state filing or foreign income.
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Norah Quay
Does anyone know if Cash App Taxes lets you import previous years' returns from TurboTax? I've been using TurboTax for like 5 years and while I hate the cost, I'm worried about starting over with a new system and having to manually enter everything.
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Leo McDonald
•You can import your previous year's tax return PDF (from any tax service) into Cash App Taxes! I switched from TurboTax last year and it pulled in all my basic info like SSN, address, dependents, etc. You'll still need to enter some stuff manually like W-2s and 1099s though. The import just saves you from entering all the personal info again.
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Norah Quay
•Thanks, that's super helpful! If it can pull the basic info that's a good start. Did you find the switch was worth it overall? Did you have any issues with the transition or was it pretty smooth?
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Leo McDonald
For anyone trying to decide between TurboTax and Cash App Taxes this year, here's my experience after using both: TurboTax Pros: - More polished interface - Better guidance/explanations - Handles extremely complex returns - Imports directly from banks/employers TurboTax Cons: - Expensive ($40-200+ depending on complexity) - Constant upselling - Makes "free" version hard to find/qualify for Cash App Taxes Pros: - Completely free for federal and state - No income limits - Handles most tax situations - Simple, straightforward interface Cash App Taxes Cons: - Less hand-holding - No live support option - Can't handle multiple state returns - No direct import from some financial institutions I switched last year and saved $120, but needed to be more self-sufficient with research on some deductions.
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Mei Liu
This is exactly the kind of breakdown I was looking for! I've been paying TurboTax's Self-Employed version for the past 3 years ($170+ each time) mainly because I have some freelance income and wasn't sure if the free options could handle it properly. From what you're describing, it sounds like Cash App Taxes might actually work for my situation since I don't have anything super complex - just W-2 income plus some 1099-NEC freelance work and basic deductions. The $120+ I could save would definitely be worth having to do a bit more research on my own. One question though - when you say "less hand-holding," do you mean it doesn't walk you through potential deductions as thoroughly? I'm always worried I'm missing something that could save me money, which is part of why I stuck with TurboTax's more guided approach.
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Esmeralda Gómez
•That's exactly the situation I was in! Cash App Taxes can definitely handle W-2 plus 1099-NEC income - that's pretty standard stuff for them. By "less hand-holding" I mean it won't proactively suggest as many deductions or ask as many follow-up questions. TurboTax has that interview-style approach where it asks things like "Did you work from home?" or "Did you buy any equipment for work?" Cash App Taxes is more direct - it shows you the forms and you fill them out. That said, it does cover all the major deductions and has a decent search function if you're looking for something specific. For your situation with freelance work, it handles all the standard business expense categories like office supplies, equipment, travel, etc. You might want to do a quick review of last year's return to see what deductions you claimed, then make sure you claim them again this year. The $120+ savings was definitely worth the slightly less guided experience for me! Plus there are tons of free resources online if you get stuck on anything.
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Mateo Gonzalez
This whole thread has been super enlightening! I had no idea about the Intuit acquisition and divestiture story - that totally explains the confusion. I'm in a similar boat as some of you - been paying TurboTax's higher tiers for years ($120-150 annually) mostly out of habit and fear of missing something important. But after reading everyone's experiences, I think I'm going to give Cash App Taxes a try this year. My situation is pretty straightforward - W-2 income, some investment gains/losses, mortgage interest, and charitable deductions. Nothing too exotic. If I can save over $100 and it handles these basic scenarios well, that seems like a no-brainer. One thing that gives me confidence is hearing from people who actually made the switch and had success. Sometimes these threads are all theoretical, but it's helpful to hear real experiences from @Leo McDonald and @Esmeralda Gómez about the transition process. Thanks everyone for the detailed breakdown - this saved me a lot of research time!
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Norman Fraser
•You're absolutely right about the value of hearing real experiences! I just went through this same decision process last month and ended up switching from TurboTax to Cash App Taxes after using TurboTax for probably 6+ years. Your tax situation sounds very similar to mine - W-2, some investment activity, mortgage interest, and charitable donations. Cash App Taxes handled all of that without any issues. The interface is definitely more straightforward and less "hand-holdy" than TurboTax, but for standard deductions like mortgage interest and charitable giving, it's pretty intuitive. One tip that helped me: I kept my previous year's TurboTax return open in another tab while doing my taxes in Cash App Taxes, just to cross-reference and make sure I wasn't missing any deductions I'd claimed before. Gave me peace of mind during the transition. The $120+ I saved was definitely worth the slightly different workflow. Plus, no annoying upsells every few screens like TurboTax does!
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