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Anastasia Popov

American Born & Raised Overseas - Never Filed US Taxes, No SSN: How to Fix My Status with the IRS?

I'm in a really complicated situation and need some advice. I'm a 38-year-old American citizen born in Japan with dual US/Canadian citizenship. I've literally spent my entire life in Japan, only visited the US once for about 10 days as a teenager. I basically consider myself culturally Japanese at this point. My parents were expats who settled in Japan in the 80s and I went to a small private international school but left after 10th grade to pursue music. I've built a decent career in the Japanese music industry as a songwriter, producer, and session musician. Here's my problem: I've NEVER been issued a Social Security Number, and I've NEVER filed any US tax returns. I've always paid my taxes to Japan (income tax, health insurance, etc.), but I recently found out that as a US citizen, I'm required to file US taxes regardless of where I live. My passport is coming up for renewal soon, and when my brother (in the same situation) renewed his recently, he got a letter demanding he apply for an SSN and come to the embassy to "sort things out." He's ignoring it, but I don't think I can do that. I've made over the foreign earned income exclusion amount ($120,000 or so) in about 4-5 of the past years, which means I might owe back taxes to the US even though I've fully paid my Japanese taxes. I'm really confused about my options: 1. Get an SSN and try to file back taxes (but for how many years? Can I even get all the documentation?) 2. Renounce US citizenship (costs $2,350 but requires tax compliance first) 3. Switch to using only my Canadian passport (but might mess up my long-term resident status in Japan) 4. Just ignore the whole thing and hope nothing happens? Has anyone dealt with anything like this? I'm worried I could be in serious trouble with the IRS. What's the best way to get right with the US tax system without completely destroying my finances?

Sean Murphy

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You're definitely in a tough situation, but it's more common than you might think! As an American citizen, you're subject to citizenship-based taxation, which means you need to file regardless of where you live. However, you don't necessarily owe double taxes because of tax treaties and the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) and Foreign Tax Credits. First, you need to get a Social Security Number. As a citizen, you're entitled to one even while abroad. You can apply at the embassy when you go for your passport renewal. Bring your birth certificate and other identification. For catching up on past tax filings, look into the IRS's Streamlined Foreign Offshore Procedures - it's specifically designed for people like you who didn't know they needed to file. It generally requires only filing the last 3 years of tax returns and 6 years of Foreign Bank Account Reports (FBARs) if your accounts exceeded $10,000 at any point. The good news is there are no penalties under this program if you certify your non-filing was non-willful. Since you've been paying taxes in Japan, you'll likely owe little to no US tax after applying tax credits or exclusions. The main thing is getting compliant with the filing requirements.

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Zara Khan

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Thanks for this info! Quick question though - does the Streamlined procedure still apply if the IRS has already contacted you (or in this case, contacted the brother)? I thought there was something about coming forward before they find you. Also, are there specific forms OP should use for this situation? The whole foreign income reporting system seems super complicated.

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Sean Murphy

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The Streamlined procedure can still apply even if the IRS contacted a family member, as that doesn't necessarily count as the IRS specifically targeting you for non-compliance. The key is that you're voluntarily coming forward before any enforcement action is directed at you personally. For forms, you'll need Form 1040 (standard tax return) for each year, Form 2555 for Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, Form 1116 for Foreign Tax Credits, and FinCEN Form 114 (FBAR) for foreign bank account reporting. You'll also need to submit Form 14653, the Streamlined certification statement explaining why you didn't file. A tax professional with experience in expat taxes would be extremely helpful in your situation.

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Luca Ferrari

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Nia Davis

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Did they help with the actual FBAR filings too? Those are the ones that scare me the most - the penalties for not filing those can be insane from what I've heard.

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Luca Ferrari

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QuantumQueen

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Aisha Rahman

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Ethan Wilson

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This sounds like a scam. Why would I pay someone to call the IRS for me? Plus, how would they know what questions to ask about my specific situation? I doubt IRS agents would even talk to someone who isn't the actual taxpayer.

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QuantumQueen

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Ethan Wilson

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Yuki Sato

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Just to add some perspective from someone who was in almost the exact situation - I'm a dual US/UK citizen who grew up entirely outside the US and never filed until age 40. The most important thing is DON'T PANIC. The IRS actually expects you to get caught up using the Streamlined procedures. In my experience: 1. Getting an SSN as an adult was surprisingly easy at the embassy 2. I only needed 3 years of back taxes + 6 years of FBARs 3. Because of tax treaties and Foreign Tax Credits, I owed $0 to the US 4. The whole process took about 5 months from start to finish 5. No penalties whatsoever One tip: even though you could theoretically do this yourself, don't. Get a tax pro who specializes in expat taxes. There are firms that do nothing but handle cases like yours.

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Did you have any issues with your bank accounts after you got compliant? I've heard some horror stories about FATCA causing foreign banks to close Americans' accounts. My entire financial life is in Japan and I'm worried about disrupting that.

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Yuki Sato

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I had minor issues with one UK investment account that didn't want to deal with US tax reporting requirements, but my regular bank accounts were all fine. Japanese banks are generally more accommodating of US citizens than European ones. The important thing to understand is that the FBAR filing is just information reporting - you're telling the US what accounts you have and their maximum values. This doesn't typically trigger any action with your banks, especially if they already know you're a US citizen from your initial account opening. I'd recommend being proactive with your banks though. Let them know you're getting compliant with US tax requirements and ask if they need any additional documentation from you. Better to address potential issues before they become problems.

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Carmen Flores

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One thing no one's mentioned yet - if you're planning to ever move to the US in the future, getting tax compliant now is SUPER important. My cousin ignored his US filing requirements for years while living in Asia, then tried to move back to the States and had major issues getting a mortgage, credit cards, etc. because he had no US tax history or credit score. Also, while the Streamlined procedures are great, they can change or end at any time. The IRS could decide tomorrow to make the requirements stricter. I wouldn't wait.

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Andre Dubois

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Wait is that true about mortgages and stuff if you move to the US? I thought once you start filing, you'd build credit pretty quickly. Like within a year or so?

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Joshua Wood

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! I'm a 35-year-old dual US/German citizen who has lived in Berlin my entire adult life and only recently discovered I was supposed to be filing US taxes. Like you, I never had an SSN and was completely in the dark about these requirements. Here's what I've learned from my research and initial steps: 1. **Don't ignore it** - I know it's tempting (especially seeing your brother's approach), but this problem doesn't go away and can get much worse over time. 2. **SSN application is straightforward** - I got mine at the US consulate in Frankfurt last month. Just needed my birth certificate, passport, and proof of identity. The whole appointment took maybe 30 minutes. 3. **Focus on the Streamlined procedures** - This seems to be the gold standard for people in our situation. My tax advisor confirmed that most people like us end up owing little to nothing after foreign tax credits. 4. **Get professional help** - I initially tried to figure this out myself but quickly realized the complexity was beyond what I could handle alone. A good expat tax specialist is worth every penny. The hardest part for me was overcoming the initial panic and paralysis. Once I started taking concrete steps, it became much more manageable. Your music career income situation might be more complex than my regular employment, but the basic framework is the same. Feel free to reach out if you want to compare notes as we both work through this process!

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