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Malik Davis

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Just thought I'd add a real-world data point. I'm a solo C-corp owner and had exactly this situation last year. Paid myself $185k in salary and took $75k in dividends. The dividends were indeed taxed at the qualified dividend rate (15% in my bracket) on my personal return. One tip: For reasonable compensation documentation, I keep a spreadsheet of comparable job listings in my industry with salary ranges, take screenshots of these listings throughout the year, and document my hours and responsibilities monthly. My accountant says this is strong backup in case of questions.

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That salary to dividend ratio seems pretty reasonable. I've heard some people try to go with really low salaries like $60k and huge dividends of $200k+ which seems like asking for trouble. What tax software did you use to file? Did it automatically calculate the dividend rate correctly or did you have to override anything?

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Connor, you're right to be confused with conflicting advice from two accountants! The correct answer is that your C-corp dividends should qualify for the preferential qualified dividend tax rate (0%, 15%, or 20% depending on your income level), not your ordinary income rate of 32%. However, there's a critical requirement: you must be paying yourself a "reasonable salary" as the sole employee. The IRS scrutinizes owner-employees who pay artificially low salaries to minimize payroll taxes while taking large dividend distributions. Since you mentioned you're already paying yourself wages, you're likely on the right track, but make sure that salary is defensible based on industry standards for your role and location. At your 32% marginal bracket, you'd likely pay either 15% or 20% on qualified dividends (plus potentially the 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax if your income exceeds certain thresholds). This is a significant tax advantage over ordinary income treatment. For audit protection, document your salary determination process - keep industry salary surveys, job descriptions, and records of hours worked and responsibilities. Also ensure your corporation meets the basic requirements (U.S. corporation, proper holding period, etc.) for qualified dividend treatment. The accountant who said "capital gains rate" was essentially correct - qualified dividends are taxed at the same rates as long-term capital gains, not ordinary income rates.

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Paolo Longo

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This is really helpful, Lauren! I'm in a similar situation as Connor and have been stressing about this exact issue. One question - you mentioned the 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax. Do you know what the income thresholds are for that? I'm trying to figure out if my total income will push me into that territory. Also, when you say "proper holding period" for qualified dividend treatment, does that apply even when you're the founder/owner of the corporation from day one?

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Ive been dashing for 3 years now alongside my office job. Keep EVERY receipt - gas, phone chargers, hot bags, etc. The tax write offs make a HUGE difference. Also dont forget about the quarterly payments! I put reminders in my calander cause I forgot the first year and got hit with penalties.

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Ava Williams

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Do you also write off part of your phone bill since you need it for the app?

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Omar Zaki

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Great question! I started doing Doordash last year while working my regular job and learned a lot through trial and error. Here's what I wish I knew from the start: You'll definitely want to track your mileage religiously - it's usually your biggest deduction. I use a simple notebook in my car and jot down my starting/ending odometer readings for each dash session. The standard mileage rate for 2024 is 67 cents per mile, which adds up fast! For the quarterly payments, you can also ask your regular employer to withhold extra taxes from your paycheck instead of making separate estimated payments. I had my HR department take an extra $150 per month from my regular job to cover the Doordash taxes - much easier than remembering quarterly deadlines. One tip: keep a separate envelope or folder for ALL your Doordash-related receipts. Car maintenance, phone accessories, insulated bags, even hand sanitizer you buy for deliveries. These small expenses add up and reduce your taxable income. And definitely set aside that 25-30% of earnings right away. I learned the hard way that it's much easier to save as you go than scramble to pay a big tax bill in April!

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PaulineW

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This is really helpful advice! I'm totally new to this whole side hustle thing and had no idea about most of these deductions. Quick question - when you say "hand sanitizer you buy for deliveries," does that mean I can deduct personal care items as long as I use them for work? Like if I buy gum or mints to keep my car smelling good for customers, would that count as a business expense? Also, the tip about having your regular employer withhold extra taxes is genius! I never would have thought of that. Do you just tell HR "hey, take out an extra $150 for taxes" or do you need to fill out a new W-4 form?

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Raul Neal

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This is such a helpful discussion! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now - filed my return two weeks ago and just discovered I missed claiming some charitable deductions that would save me about $800. Based on what everyone's shared here, it sounds like superseding is definitely the way to go since we're still before the deadline. The point about avoiding penalties and interest on additional taxes is huge, and I like that it becomes the "only" return rather than having two separate filings to track. One question though - for those who've done superseding returns, how do you handle the payment situation? If my original return showed I owed $2,000 but my corrected return shows I only owe $1,200, do I still need to pay the original $2,000 by April 15th, or can I just pay the corrected amount? I don't want to accidentally underpay and get hit with penalties. Also really appreciate the mentions of taxr.ai and Claimyr - I had no idea these services existed! Might have to check them out since I'm definitely not confident about doing this correctly on my own.

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Paloma Clark

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Great question about the payment timing! Since you're filing a superseding return before the deadline, you only need to pay the amount shown on your corrected return ($1,200 in your case). The superseding return completely replaces the original, so the IRS will only see the corrected tax liability. Just make sure your superseding return is properly filed before April 15th and clearly marked as "SUPERSEDING RETURN" at the top. As long as it's filed on time, you'll avoid any underpayment issues since the IRS treats it as your original and only return. I'm new to this community but have been through a similar situation myself. The peace of mind from getting it right the first time (well, second time!) is definitely worth the extra effort of filing a superseding return.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I need to correct some 1099-INT reporting that I missed on my original e-filed return. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of keeping good records when you supersede. My tax preparer recommended that I keep copies of both the original return AND the superseding return, along with a detailed note explaining what changed and why. This way if there are ever any questions down the road, I have a clear paper trail showing the corrections were made in good faith before the deadline. Also, for anyone considering the paper filing route for superseding returns - make sure to send it certified mail with return receipt. Given how important it is that the IRS receives and processes the superseding return before they process your original e-filed one, having proof of delivery and timing can be crucial if there are any processing delays or mix-ups. The deadline stress is real, but it sounds like superseding is definitely the right approach when you catch errors this close to April 15th!

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This is exactly the kind of documentation advice I needed to hear! I've been so focused on figuring out supersede vs amend that I hadn't even thought about the record-keeping aspect. The certified mail suggestion is brilliant - I can definitely see how proving delivery timing would be important if the IRS somehow processes things out of order. I'm planning to go the paper filing route for my superseding return since my tax software won't let me e-file it, so I'll definitely be sending it certified. Question for you - when you say keep detailed notes about what changed and why, do you mean just personal records or should I include some kind of explanation letter with the superseding return itself? I want to make sure I'm being as clear as possible about why I'm filing the correction.

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As someone who just went through their first year dealing with referral income, I can relate to the confusion! One thing I learned that wasn't mentioned yet is to keep copies of the actual referral agreements you sign with other agents or brokerages. These documents often specify the percentage you'll receive and when payments are due, which becomes crucial if there are any disputes later. Also, if you're working completely independently without a brokerage, make sure you understand your state's licensing requirements for referral payments. Some states require that referral fees only be paid to licensed agents through their supervising broker, not directly. Since you mentioned you're independent, you might want to double-check that your referral arrangements comply with your state's real estate commission rules. I'd also suggest setting up a separate business bank account just for referral income if you haven't already. It makes tracking so much easier come tax time, and having that clean separation helps if you ever face an audit. Plus, it gives you a clearer picture of how much you're actually earning from referrals versus your regular sales commissions.

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Eli Wang

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I wish I had when I started! The point about state licensing requirements for referral payments is crucial - I almost got into trouble because I didn't realize my state required all referral fees to go through a licensed broker first, even for independent agents. Setting up that separate bank account is brilliant too. I've been mixing everything together and it's been a nightmare trying to separate referral income from regular commission income during tax prep. Definitely doing this before next tax season! @Selena Bautista Do you happen to know if there are any good resources for checking state-specific referral rules? I want to make sure I m'compliant but my state s'real estate commission website is pretty confusing.

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PixelPioneer

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Great question! I went through this exact same situation last year as an independent agent. Here's what I learned: Yes, any agent or company that paid you $600+ in referral fees during 2024 should send you a 1099-NEC by January 31st. However, don't rely solely on waiting for these forms - start tracking everything yourself now. Create a simple record-keeping system with: - Date of each referral payment - Amount received - Who paid you (agent/company name) - Copy of the payment (check, wire transfer confirmation, etc.) Even if you don't receive a 1099 for payments under $600, you're still required to report ALL referral income on your tax return. This goes on Schedule C as self-employment income, and you'll owe self-employment taxes on it (usually around 15.3% plus regular income tax). Pro tip: Set aside 25-30% of each referral payment for taxes. Since you're independent, you might also need to make quarterly estimated tax payments if your referral income is substantial. Also, keep copies of those W-9s you sent out and any referral agreements you signed. These will be important for your records and could be needed if there are any payment disputes or during an audit.

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This is such a comprehensive breakdown - thank you! I'm in a similar boat as the original poster and had no idea about the quarterly estimated payments. When you mention setting aside 25-30% of each referral payment, do you put that in a separate savings account or just keep track of it somehow? Also, since you mentioned Schedule C, does that mean referral income gets treated the same as if I had my own real estate business? I'm worried about triggering additional business requirements or licensing issues since I'm technically just an independent agent under a broker's license.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful - I'm dealing with a similar situation but with some additional complexity. I was working for a US company but stationed in their London office from 2018-2021, and I'm just now discovering that I may have been filing incorrectly the entire time. My company's UK payroll team told me I didn't need to file US returns since I was paying UK taxes, which I now know was completely wrong. I've been out of compliance for multiple years and potentially owe significant amounts, but I also think I overpaid in some years where I might have been entitled to refunds. Reading through all the advice here about financial disability exceptions, account transcripts, and US-UK treaty provisions has given me hope that there might be paths forward I hadn't considered. The information about requesting comprehensive transcripts to see what the IRS actually has on file is particularly valuable since I'm not even sure what documentation they've received about my UK employment. Has anyone dealt with similar employer misinformation situations where the company's international payroll team provided incorrect US tax guidance? I'm wondering if this could support an equitable tolling argument similar to what was discussed earlier in the thread. The fact that I was receiving professional advice from my employer's tax specialists (even though it was wrong) seems like it might be relevant. Also curious if anyone knows whether the US-UK tax treaty has similar provisions to the US-Japan treaty mentioned earlier that might affect statute of limitations or filing obligations for employees on international assignments.

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Lia Quinn

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@ac1b2919e0aa Your situation with employer misinformation is actually quite strong for building an equitable tolling or reasonable reliance argument. The fact that you received incorrect guidance from your company's professional tax team (rather than just misunderstanding the rules yourself) could definitely support an exception to normal statute limitations. The US-UK tax treaty does have similar provisions to the US-Japan treaty, particularly Article 24 (Mutual Agreement Procedure) and Article 15 (Income from Employment). The UK treaty also has specific provisions about short-term assignments and when US filing obligations apply to UK residents. Your situation of being told you didn't need to file US returns while working for a US company abroad is a classic case where treaty provisions and employer guidance often conflict with actual US tax law requirements. I'd strongly recommend gathering all communications from your company's UK payroll team about US tax obligations, your employment contract, and any tax equalization agreements. Document exactly what advice you received and when. This kind of employer misinformation has been successfully used in statute of limitations cases, especially when the taxpayer can show they reasonably relied on professional advice from their employer's tax specialists. Also request both account and wage/income transcripts from the IRS for all years in question - they may have received reporting about your US company employment that you're not aware of. The combination of employer misinformation, international complexity, and potential treaty issues creates multiple angles for addressing statute limitations. Don't give up on those potential refunds without exploring all these options!

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Evelyn Rivera

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I've been reading through this entire thread and want to add some additional perspective on the financial disability exception that might be helpful. While major depression can qualify, the key is having your physician specifically document that the condition prevented you from managing your financial affairs during the relevant period. I work in tax resolution and have seen successful financial disability claims where the physician's statement included specific language about the patient's inability to handle complex financial decisions, difficulty with paperwork and deadlines, and cognitive impacts that affected their capacity to understand tax obligations. Generic treatment records usually aren't sufficient - you need a targeted statement from your treating physician. Also, don't overlook the "equitable tolling" possibilities mentioned earlier. Given your international assignment and the complexity of coordinating between US and Japanese tax obligations, if you can document that you received conflicting or incomplete guidance about your filing requirements, this could strengthen your case beyond just the health issues alone. One practical suggestion: consider filing Form 843 (Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement) even if you're not 100% certain about qualifying for an exception. The IRS will review your specific circumstances, and sometimes they identify relief options that weren't immediately obvious. The worst they can do is deny it, but you might be surprised at their flexibility when there are genuine extenuating circumstances like yours. The combination of your depression diagnosis, international tax complexity, and pandemic timing really does create a unique situation that goes beyond typical "I forgot to file" scenarios.

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This is really helpful guidance about the specific language needed for financial disability claims. I'm curious about the timing requirements - does the physician's statement need to cover the entire period from when the return was due until now, or just the initial period when I should have filed? Also, regarding Form 843, is there a specific deadline for filing this claim, or can it be submitted at any time? I want to make sure I'm not missing another statute of limitations while I'm working on gathering the medical documentation. The point about documenting conflicting guidance is interesting - I definitely received different information from my company's tax team in Tokyo versus what I later learned about US filing requirements. Would email communications with HR or the tax service provider be sufficient documentation for this, or do I need something more formal? Thanks for mentioning that the IRS might identify relief options that aren't immediately obvious. Given how complex this situation is with multiple potential exceptions, it sounds like it's worth pursuing even if I'm not certain about meeting all the requirements for any single exception.

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