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Savannah Vin

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I had this exact same confusion when I first used TurboTax for my education expenses! You're absolutely correct to enter $0 for the amount of grants/scholarships used for room and board. Here's the simple way to think about it: since your grants are less than your total tuition and fees, ALL of your grant money went toward those qualified education expenses. There's literally no grant money left over to allocate toward room and board or other non-qualified expenses. Student loans are completely separate from this calculation. TurboTax is only asking about "free money" (grants/scholarships) and how it was allocated. Loans don't count as scholarships or grants, so they don't factor into this question at all. The good news is that expenses paid with student loans can still qualify you for education credits like the American Opportunity Credit or Lifetime Learning Credit. Since most of your funding comes from loans rather than grants, you'll likely be eligible for significant education credits! Don't second-guess yourself - entering $0 is definitely the right move for your situation. You're handling this correctly and shouldn't worry about messing up your education credits.

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This whole thread has been such a lifesaver! I'm a community college student transferring to a 4-year school next fall, and I was completely lost trying to figure out the education credit stuff. Everyone's explanations about grants being applied to qualified expenses first really helped it click for me. I have a small Pell Grant that doesn't even cover half my tuition, and the rest is student loans. Based on all the advice here, I'm confident now that I should enter $0 for grants used for room and board since my grant doesn't even cover my full tuition costs. One question though - does it matter that I'm only taking classes part-time while working? I wasn't sure if that affects which education credit I can claim or how the calculations work. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences!

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Isabel Vega

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You're handling this perfectly! Since your grants are less than your tuition and fees alone, definitely enter $0 for the amount used for room and board. The logic is straightforward - grants get allocated to qualified expenses (tuition/fees) first, and since yours don't even cover the full tuition cost, none could have gone to room and board. Student loans are treated completely differently for tax purposes. They're not considered "scholarships or grants" so they don't factor into this TurboTax question at all. But here's the great news - you can still claim education credits for qualified expenses paid with loan money! This actually works in your favor since loan-funded expenses are fully eligible for credits. If you're eligible for the American Opportunity Credit, don't forget that required course materials (textbooks, supplies, equipment) also count as qualified expenses, even if you bought them somewhere other than your school bookstore. Keep those receipts! You're not overthinking this - $0 is absolutely the correct answer for your situation, and having loan funding won't hurt your ability to claim valuable education credits.

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Chloe Davis

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I went through this exact same nightmare last year! My preparer switched two digits in my account number and my $2,400 refund went into the void. Here's what I learned: First, don't wait - contact your preparer immediately and demand they fix this. Most professional preparers carry errors and omissions insurance specifically for mistakes like this. Mine initially tried to brush me off saying "it happens," but when I mentioned their insurance should cover the costs of their mistake, they suddenly became very helpful. Second, file Form 8379 if you're married filing jointly and only one spouse has the banking error - this can help separate your portion of the refund for reprocessing. The good news is that if the account doesn't exist or belongs to someone else, banks are required to return erroneous deposits within a reasonable timeframe. The bad news is "reasonable" can mean anywhere from 3 days to 3 weeks depending on the bank. Document everything - keep records of all calls, emails with your preparer, and IRS correspondence. If this drags on, you may need this for a complaint with your state's board of accountancy if your preparer is licensed. Most importantly, this WILL get resolved. It's frustrating and scary, but the IRS deals with these situations regularly and has processes in place. You're not going to lose your refund permanently.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through the same thing! I'm definitely going to bring up the insurance issue with my preparer - they've been pretty dismissive so far saying these things just happen sometimes. Can you tell me more about Form 8379? I am married filing jointly, so this might apply to my situation. Also, how long did it ultimately take for you to get your refund back?

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I'm going through something similar right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! My situation is a bit different though - I think my preparer might have used an old bank account from my previous year's return that I had already closed. One thing I wanted to add that I learned from calling my bank directly: they told me that when a refund gets sent to a closed account, they typically reject it automatically within 1-2 business days and send it back to the originator (in this case, the IRS). The bank rep said this is much faster than when it goes to an existing but wrong account, where it might sit for weeks while they investigate. Has anyone had experience with how long the IRS takes to reprocess after getting a rejected direct deposit back from the bank? The "Where's My Refund" tool still shows "sent" even though my bank says they never received anything, so I'm wondering if there's a delay in their system updating. Also, for anyone dealing with unresponsive preparers - I found that mentioning you'll be filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and your state's licensing board (if they're licensed) tends to get their attention pretty quickly. These mistakes can seriously damage their professional reputation if not handled properly.

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Ashley Adams

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Great point about contacting the bank directly! I hadn't thought to do that. In my experience, when the IRS gets a rejected direct deposit back from a bank, they typically reprocess it as a paper check within 7-10 business days of receiving the rejection. However, their "Where's My Refund" system can be really slow to update - sometimes it shows "sent" for weeks even after the bank has rejected it. You might want to check your IRS transcript online (if you have an account set up) as it tends to be more current than the basic refund tracker. The transcript will show when the direct deposit was attempted, when it was returned, and when they initiated the paper check. Also, that's a smart tip about mentioning BBB and licensing board complaints to get preparers to take action. Most reputable preparers will want to resolve these issues quickly to protect their professional standing. If they continue being unresponsive, you can also check if they're part of any professional organizations like AICPA or NAEA - those groups take client service complaints seriously.

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Based on your description, this sounds like it could qualify as repairs rather than improvements since you're restoring the property to its previous condition due to necessary fixes. The key is documenting that these expenses are restoring damaged elements rather than upgrading them. A few important considerations for your $25,000+ project: 1. **Document everything thoroughly** - Take extensive photos of the damage before work begins, get written assessments from contractors stating the work is necessary for habitability, and keep detailed invoices showing exactly what was repaired vs. replaced. 2. **Consider the "restoration" rules** - The IRS has specific guidance on when extensive work qualifies as restoring property to its previous condition rather than improving it. Since your ceiling is collapsing and walls have water damage, this strengthens your case. 3. **Break down your expenses** - Some portions might be deductible repairs while others could be capital improvements. For example, if you're replacing damaged drywall with identical materials, that's likely a repair. But if you upgrade to higher-quality materials, that portion might be an improvement. 4. **Look into the Safe Harbor election** - If your property qualifies, you might be able to immediately deduct improvements under certain thresholds rather than depreciating them. Given the complexity and dollar amount involved, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who specializes in rental property before starting the work. They can help you structure the project and documentation to maximize your deductions while staying compliant with IRS rules.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the "restoration" rules you mentioned - where can I find the specific IRS guidance on this? I want to make sure I understand exactly what qualifies before I start this project. Also, when you say "break down expenses," do you mean I should get separate invoices for different types of work, or is it more about how I categorize things on my tax return?

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Layla Mendes

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The IRS "restoration" guidance is primarily found in Treasury Regulation 1.263(a)-3, which covers the tangible property regulations. This regulation specifically addresses when work qualifies as restoring property to its "ordinarily efficient operating condition" versus improving it beyond that condition. For your situation, the regulation considers several factors: whether you're fixing damage to return the property to working order, the scope of work relative to the entire property, and whether you're adding new functionality or value. Since you're dealing with structural damage (collapsing ceiling, water-damaged walls) that makes the property uninhabitable, this strongly supports the restoration argument. Regarding breaking down expenses - ideally you want both. Get separate invoices when possible (demo work separate from new installation, materials separate from labor) AND categorize appropriately on your return. For example: - Removing damaged drywall and installing identical replacement = repair - Installing higher-grade materials than original = potential improvement - Emergency structural stabilization = likely repair - Adding features that weren't there before = improvement The key is creating a clear paper trail that shows you're restoring damaged components rather than upgrading them. Document the original materials/condition through photos and contractor notes, then show you're replacing "like with like" wherever possible. Given the $25k scope, definitely consult a tax pro before starting - the documentation strategy is crucial for an amount this large.

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This regulation breakdown is incredibly helpful - thank you! I had no idea about Treasury Regulation 1.263(a)-3. One follow-up question: when documenting the "like with like" replacements, how specific do I need to be? For instance, if the original drywall was 1/2" and I replace it with 1/2" but from a different manufacturer, does that still qualify as "like with like"? And what if certain materials aren't available anymore - say the original ceiling tiles are discontinued - how does that affect the repair vs improvement classification?

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Emma Johnson

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Based on my experience, the IRS usually mails paper checks about 3-5 days before the date shown on your transcript. So if your DDD is March 15th, you'll likely see it in informed delivery around March 10th-12th and receive it by March 13th-14th. The transcript date is more of a "delivery by" date rather than a "sent on" date. Just keep an eye on your informed delivery starting about a week before your DDD - that's usually when it'll show up there first!

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This is super helpful! I'm new here and have been stressing about my first paper check refund. My DDD is Feb 28th so sounds like I should start watching informed delivery around Feb 23rd? Really appreciate the detailed timeline - makes me feel way less anxious about the whole process! 😊

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LongPeri

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Hey! Just wanted to share my recent experience - got my paper check exactly 4 days before my transcript date! My DDD was January 10th and the check arrived January 6th. I was checking informed delivery obsessively and it showed up there on January 5th. So definitely start watching informed delivery about a week before your DDD like others mentioned. The waiting is torture but the timing has been pretty consistent from what I've seen in this community. Good luck and hope yours arrives soon! šŸ¤ž

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Nina Chan

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really reassuring to hear it came 4 days early. I'm totally new to all this tax stuff and paper checks seemed so old school to me lol. My DDD is February 14th so I'll start obsessively checking informed delivery around February 9th šŸ˜… This community has been super helpful for a newcomer like me!

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Avery Flores

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I actually just went through this exact situation with my Magellan Midstream units! The confusion is totally understandable because it really does look like you're getting duplicate reporting. Here's what I learned after consulting with a CPA who specializes in energy investments: The 1099 from your brokerage is essentially just a cash flow statement - it shows money that moved into your account. But for tax purposes, what matters is the K-1, which tells you the actual tax character of those distributions. Most PTP distributions are largely "return of capital" which isn't immediately taxable - instead it reduces your cost basis in the investment. The K-1 will show this in Box 19A. Only the portions reported in other boxes (like Box 1 for ordinary income) are immediately taxable. When you enter your K-1 in TurboTax, make sure you select "Publicly Traded Partnership" when prompted - this is crucial because PTPs get different treatment than regular partnerships. The software should automatically handle the passive activity rules correctly for PTPs. Whatever you do, don't enter the distribution amounts from your 1099 as additional dividend income on top of the K-1 data - that would definitely double-count your income and result in overpaying taxes. Pro tip: Start a simple spreadsheet now to track your basis adjustments from the return of capital distributions. You'll thank yourself later when you sell!

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This is really helpful! I'm dealing with the same situation with my Enterprise Products Partners shares and was totally panicking about double-reporting. One thing I'm still confused about though - when you say most distributions are "return of capital," does that mean I don't owe any taxes on them at all this year? Or do I still need to report them somewhere even if they're not immediately taxable? I want to make sure I'm not missing something that could come back to bite me later.

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Great question! Return of capital distributions still need to be reported - they just aren't immediately taxable income. When you enter your K-1 in TurboTax, the software will automatically handle the return of capital amounts from Box 19A by reducing your basis in the investment rather than adding to your taxable income. Think of it this way: if you bought your EPD shares for $1,000 and received $100 in return of capital distributions, your new basis becomes $900. You don't pay taxes on that $100 now, but when you eventually sell the shares, you'll have a larger capital gain (or smaller loss) because your basis is lower. The important thing is that TurboTax handles all this automatically when you properly enter the K-1 data. Just make sure you're entering it in the Partnership K-1 section and selecting "Publicly Traded Partnership" when prompted. The software will put the return of capital in the right place on your return (Schedule E) and track the basis adjustment for you. You definitely want to report it correctly now rather than ignore it - the IRS receives a copy of your K-1 too, and they expect to see it reflected on your return even if it doesn't increase your current tax liability.

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I had this exact same confusion with my Energy Transfer Partnership units last year! The key thing that finally clicked for me was understanding that the 1099 and K-1 are telling different stories about the same money. Your broker's 1099 is basically saying "hey, we sent you this much cash during the year" - it's just a record of distributions received. But the K-1 is what actually matters for tax purposes because it breaks down what TYPE of income those distributions represent. Here's what you'll likely find when you look at your K-1: Most of those distributions are probably "return of capital" (Box 19A), which isn't taxed as current income but instead reduces your cost basis in the partnership. Only smaller portions will be ordinary income, capital gains, or other taxable items. In TurboTax, definitely enter the K-1 data - that's your primary tax document for the partnership. When you get to the partnership section, make sure to select "Publicly Traded Partnership" because PTPs have special rules that are different from regular partnerships. The software should handle everything correctly from there. Don't enter the 1099 distribution amounts as additional dividend income - that would absolutely double-count your income and cost you money! The K-1 captures everything you need to report. One last tip: keep good records of those return of capital amounts because they reduce your basis, which will matter when you eventually sell your PTP shares.

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Nia Williams

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This is exactly the explanation I needed! I've been stressing about this for weeks with my PTP investments. Just to make sure I understand correctly - when TurboTax asks about the partnership type and I select "Publicly Traded Partnership," it will automatically know not to apply the passive activity loss limitations that would apply to regular partnerships? That was one thing that was really confusing me because I kept reading about passive activity rules but wasn't sure if they applied to my situation. Also, you mentioned keeping records of the return of capital amounts - should I be tracking these separately from what TurboTax calculates, or is the software's tracking sufficient for future tax years? I want to make sure I don't run into problems down the road when I sell.

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