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AstroAce

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One more verification step I'd recommend - check with your state's licensing board if your state requires tax preparers to be licensed or registered at the state level. Some states have additional requirements beyond just the federal PTIN. For example, California requires tax preparers to register with the California Tax Education Council (CTEC), and Oregon has its own licensing system. You can usually search these state databases online to verify if someone is in good standing. Also, trust your gut feeling about the interaction. Legitimate preparers should be patient with your questions about credentials and verification. If someone gets defensive or pushy when you ask about their PTIN, EFIN, insurance, or credentials, that's a red flag regardless of what their paperwork shows. The fact that you're being this thorough about vetting them shows you're being smart about protecting your personal information. Better to spend time upfront verifying than dealing with identity theft or filing errors later!

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Aisha Jackson

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This is such valuable advice about checking state licensing! I had no idea some states had their own requirements beyond the PTIN. I'm in Texas - does anyone know if Texas has additional licensing requirements for tax preparers? Also, you're absolutely right about trusting your gut. The preparer I was considering seemed a bit evasive when I first asked about credentials, but after reading all these responses, I think I should probably look elsewhere. There are clearly plenty of legitimate preparers out there who would be happy to answer all these verification questions upfront. Thanks everyone for all the detailed advice - this thread has been incredibly helpful! I feel much more confident now about what questions to ask and red flags to watch for.

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Texas doesn't have additional state-level licensing requirements for tax preparers beyond the federal PTIN - it's one of the states that relies on the IRS requirements. So you'd just need to verify the PTIN through the IRS directory and check for any professional credentials like CPA, EA, or AFSP participation. However, Texas does have consumer protection laws that apply to tax preparation services. If you do run into issues with a preparer, you can file complaints with the Texas Attorney General's office or the Better Business Bureau. Since the preparer you were considering seemed evasive about credentials, I'd definitely trust that instinct and look elsewhere. A good tax professional should be proud to share their qualifications and happy to answer verification questions. In Texas's major cities, there are plenty of legitimate preparers who will be completely transparent about their credentials. You might also want to check if any local CPAs or EAs offer competitive rates - sometimes their pricing is closer to independent preparers than you'd expect, especially for straightforward returns. The peace of mind from working with someone with advanced credentials might be worth a slightly higher fee.

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Norah Quay

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This has been such an educational thread! As someone new to dealing with tax preparers, I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and verification methods. One thing I'm curious about - for those of you who have used these verification tools like the IRS directory or third-party services, how accurate have they been in practice? Have you ever had a situation where someone checked out fine on paper but still turned out to be problematic? Also, @0d3915092813 your point about CPAs and EAs having competitive pricing is interesting. I always assumed they'd be way more expensive than independent preparers, but maybe I should get some quotes before making assumptions. Do you think it's worth paying a bit more for the extra credentials, especially for someone like me who's never used a tax preparer before?

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This is such a perfect example of why we all need to be more careful about reviewing our tax documents! I just got my first W2 ever and honestly would have just accepted whatever numbers were on it without question. Reading about your situation where the Social Security tax was literally higher than your total wages is mind-blowing - I had no idea errors could be that dramatic. The advice throughout this thread about comparing your W2 to your final paystub is something I'm definitely going to do now. I almost threw my last paystub away but decided to keep it "just in case" - turns out that was a smart move! It's also really encouraging to see how helpful everyone has been with practical advice about documenting everything in writing and not filing with incorrect information. As someone who's totally new to navigating workplace issues like this, the step-by-step guidance about how to approach HR and what to expect from the correction process is invaluable. Thanks for sharing your experience and keeping us updated on the process. This thread is going to save so many people from similar headaches! Hope you get that corrected W2 soon.

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Sofia Price

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@55cc95e734e9 You're so smart to keep that final paystub! I'm also brand new to all this tax stuff and honestly would have made the same mistake of just trusting whatever was on the W2. This whole thread has been like a crash course in "things they don't teach you in college about taxes." The fact that @6b25431c3512's situation was so extreme (SS tax higher than total wages!) really shows how important it is to actually look at these numbers instead of just blindly entering them into tax software. I'm definitely going to be way more careful about reviewing all my tax documents going forward. It's also really reassuring to see how supportive this community is - between all the tax professionals sharing their expertise and people sharing their own similar experiences, this thread has become such a valuable educational resource. Makes me feel less anxious about navigating tax season as a complete beginner! Really hoping the corrected W2 comes through quickly for the original poster. This has been such a learning experience for all of us newcomers!

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Adaline Wong

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This thread has been incredibly educational! As someone who's also new to the working world, I had no idea W2 errors could be this dramatic or that we needed to actively verify the numbers instead of just trusting them. @6b25431c3512 your situation with Social Security tax exceeding your actual wages is definitely a wake-up call for all of us newcomers. The math breakdown everyone provided (SS tax should be 6.2% of wages, so yours should be around $135 not $2,710!) really helps me understand what to look for on my own tax documents. The advice about keeping final paystubs for comparison is something I'm definitely implementing going forward. I almost threw mine away thinking I wouldn't need it once I got my W2. And the tip about documenting everything in writing when contacting HR is so smart - I never would have thought about creating a paper trail for something like this. Really hoping your employer gets that corrected W2 issued quickly! This whole discussion has given me so much more confidence about how to handle tax documents properly. Thanks for sharing your experience and helping all of us learn from it.

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Ava Martinez

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I'm dealing with this exact same issue right now! My transcript shows a 971 notice from August 20th but it's been over a month with nothing in the mail. My $2,950 refund has been stuck since March and I'm getting really worried about what this mystery notice could be. After reading through all these responses, I'm convinced the IRS mail system is completely broken. It's crazy how many people are dealing with "phantom notices" that show up on transcripts but never actually arrive. I've tried calling the regular IRS number probably 15 times and never gotten past the automated "high call volume" message. I think I'm going to try that claimyr service that multiple people have mentioned - seems like actually talking to a real agent is the only way to find out what's going on. The not knowing is honestly worse than just dealing with whatever the issue actually is. Thanks for posting this, OP - at least now I know this is a widespread problem and not just me going crazy!

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Yuki Tanaka

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I'm in the EXACT same boat! This is so frustrating - it's like we're all dealing with the same broken system. I also have a 971 notice from August that never showed up, and my refund has been "processing" forever. Reading everyone's experiences here is actually making me feel less crazy about the whole situation. I think you're right about trying claimyr - at this point I'd rather pay something to actually talk to a human than keep playing this guessing game with phantom notices. The IRS really needs to fix their mail system because this is ridiculous! Let me know how it goes if you end up using the callback service.

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I'm going through the exact same thing! My transcript shows a 971 notice from August 28th but absolutely nothing has arrived in my mailbox. It's been over 5 weeks now and my $3,400 refund has been stuck in processing since June. I've called the IRS probably 20 times and can never get past that stupid "high call volume" recording. Reading through everyone's experiences here is actually really reassuring - seems like the IRS mail system is completely broken and tons of people are dealing with these "phantom notices." I was starting to think I was going crazy checking my mailbox obsessively every day! Based on all the success stories here, I think I'm definitely going to try claimyr. The not knowing what they want is driving me insane, and it sounds like these notices are usually just routine verification stuff that can be resolved quickly once you actually talk to a human. Thanks for posting this OP - it's helpful to know we're all dealing with the same broken system!

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Lucas Adams

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This is a common issue I've seen with K-1 reporting, and you're absolutely right to question it. The key is understanding the nature of your royalty payments and your role in the partnership. From what you've described, if these are truly passive royalties from intellectual property you created in the past but are no longer actively developing, they should NOT be subject to self-employment tax. The proper reporting would typically be Box 11 with code F for royalties, not as guaranteed payments in Box 4a or self-employment earnings in Box 14A. However, I'd recommend getting a definitive answer by reviewing your partnership agreement and the specific terms of your royalty arrangement. The classification can depend on whether you're considered to be receiving these payments for past services, current services, or simply as a return on capital (your intellectual property). You might want to request a meeting with your employer's accounting department and bring documentation showing the nature of your royalty agreement. If they're unwilling to correct it, consider getting a second opinion from a tax professional who specializes in partnership taxation, as the SE tax implications can be significant over time.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I'm not sure if my partnership agreement even addresses how royalties should be classified. Do you know what specific language I should look for in the partnership agreement that would clarify whether these should be treated as payments for services vs. capital? I want to make sure I'm prepared before I meet with our accounting department.

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LunarEclipse

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I've been through this exact situation with my LLC's K-1 reporting. The fact that your employer put the royalties in both Box 4a AND Box 14A is definitely a red flag - that's essentially double-counting the same income for SE tax purposes. Based on your description, if these are royalties from intellectual property you created but are no longer actively developing, they should be passive income reported in Box 11 with code F. The key test the IRS uses is whether you're receiving the payments for current services or as a return on property you own. I'd recommend preparing a simple one-page summary for your employer explaining: 1) The nature of your royalty agreement, 2) That you're no longer actively working on the IP, and 3) The proper K-1 reporting per IRS guidelines. Most accounting departments will correct this once they understand the distinction - they often just default to treating all partner payments as guaranteed payments without considering the specific nature of each income stream. Don't wait too long to address this - if they issue incorrect K-1s again this year, you'll need to file amended returns which is a bigger hassle than getting it fixed upfront.

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Nora Bennett

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Based on what StarGazer101 mentioned about income thresholds, you might want to first calculate whether the passive losses would have actually been usable in each year before deciding which returns to amend. The $150k MAGI phase-out for rental real estate losses could significantly simplify your amendment strategy. If you were above the threshold in certain years, those losses would have been suspended regardless of whether they were properly carried forward or not. You'd only need to amend the years where your income was low enough that the corrected passive losses would have actually reduced your tax liability. This could potentially save you from having to amend every single year since 2020. I'd recommend pulling together your AGI for each year first and doing the phase-out calculation before deciding on your amendment approach.

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This is exactly the kind of strategic thinking that can save a lot of time and paperwork! I've seen too many people automatically assume they need to amend every year without considering the phase-out rules first. One thing to add - when you're calculating the MAGI for the phase-out, remember that it's calculated before considering the passive rental losses themselves. So even if the losses would have reduced your regular AGI, you still use the pre-passive-loss AGI number for determining whether you hit that $150k threshold. Also worth noting that if you're married filing jointly, the phase-out starts at $100k MAGI and is completely phased out by $150k MAGI. So there might be some years where you could only use a partial amount of the passive losses even with the correct carryforward.

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I went through something very similar with my rental property passive losses last year. One key thing that helped me was creating a spreadsheet tracking the correct passive loss amounts year by year before deciding which returns to amend. What I discovered is that you really need to look at both your income levels each year AND whether you had other passive income that could have absorbed some of the losses. Sometimes rental losses can offset other passive income even when you're above the $150k threshold. Also, don't forget that if you do decide to amend multiple years, you'll want to file them in chronological order and wait for each one to be processed before submitting the next. The IRS systems need to see the corrected carryforward amounts in sequence or you might end up with correspondence asking you to explain the discrepancies. The good news is that once you get this straightened out, your future returns will be much cleaner. I'd definitely recommend keeping better documentation of your passive loss calculations going forward - it saves so much headache later!

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Ben Cooper

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the passive income offset you mentioned - we do have some K-1 income from a partnership investment that shows passive gains some years. Would those gains allow us to use more of the suspended rental losses even when we're over the income threshold? Also, regarding filing amendments in chronological order - do you know approximately how long the IRS takes to process each amendment? I'm wondering if we're looking at this dragging out over many months if we need to amend multiple years.

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