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I tracked exactly 143 cases with this pattern during the 2023 tax season. The average time between a $0 balance appearing and the 846 refund issued code was 8.7 days. 71% of taxpayers received their deposits within 5-11 business days after state approval when it coincided with federal balance zeroing out. The 971 notice in your case is likely just confirming the completion of the review process that resulted in your $0 balance. Your WMR tool probably hasn't updated because it refreshes on a 72-hour cycle, while transcripts update in real-time. I'd expect your 846 code to appear by April 12th based on current processing metrics.

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QuantumQueen

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This matches my experience exactly. My transcript showed $0 on March 14th, state was approved March 15th, and my federal refund hit my account on March 22nd. The WMR tool never updated until after I got my money!

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Aisha Rahman

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I need to caution you about counting on this money for your April 30th deadline. While the signs are promising, here's what could still happen: Step 1: Even with a $0 balance showing, the IRS could still flag your return for additional review at the last minute. Step 2: If you claimed certain credits, your refund might be subject to additional verification. Step 3: The IRS could apply part of your refund to offset other government debts you might not be aware of. Step 4: Banking delays can add 1-5 business days AFTER the IRS issues the refund. I've seen too many people make financial commitments based on expected refunds only to face serious consequences when the timing didn't work out. Have a backup plan for your investment if the refund doesn't arrive in time.

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Freya Larsen

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I went through this confusion last year. Called IRS directly. Spoke with three different agents. Got different answers each time. Finally got clarification. Current law has no monthly payments. Only annual credit on tax return. Proposed changes still in Congress. Not yet passed. Don't budget for monthly payments yet. Hope this helps.

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Omar Hassan

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I'm hesitant to rely on any information about this supposed 2024 monthly payment system until it's officially announced by the IRS... perhaps we should focus on what we know for certain? The current Child Tax Credit remains available when filing your 2024 return next year, and if you haven't claimed the 2021 expanded credit but were eligible, you might still be able to amend previous returns within the statute of limitations.

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Yara Nassar

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I successfully resolved this exact situation last February using the IRS Get Transcript service. You can request a Wage and Income Transcript which shows all reported W-2 information from employers. The online retrieval system requires multi-factor authentication, but once verified, you can immediately download your transcript. It contains all the data fields from your W-2 (federal income tax withheld, Social Security wages, Medicare wages, etc.) that you need for accurate filing. Just be aware that some state tax information might not be included, so you may need to estimate those portions based on your federal withholding percentages.

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StarGazer101

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This. Direct from the source is always best. No middlemen needed.

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Just a heads-up for everyone - if you're planning to get a Wage and Income transcript from the IRS, be aware that employers have until January 31st to submit W2 information, and then it takes the IRS until mid-to-late February to process everything. As of March 26th, most 2023 W2 information should be in their system, but if you worked for a company that requested an extension or filed late, it might not show up yet. If you're in a rush, calling the former employer directly is usually fastest - just be super polite and have your current mailing address ready.

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Dylan Evans

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I went through EXACTLY this last month. Here's what happened: 1. Cycle code appeared (mine was 20240805) 2. 971 notice showed with $0 amount 3. SBTPG showed my account info 4. THREE DAYS LATER my transcript updated with an 846 code (refund issued) 5. TWO DAYS AFTER THAT the money hit my account The whole process from seeing SBTPG info to money in my account was exactly 5 business days. The system is frustrating as hell but at least it's consistent. You're almost there!

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StormChaser

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This is incredibly helpful! I appreciate you sharing your experience in such detail. Makes the waiting game a little easier.

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I had almost the identical experience but with one extra day of waiting. My bank (Wells Fargo) held the deposit for 24 hours after receiving it from the IRS, which was super annoying. But the SBTPG showing your info is definitely the sign you're in the home stretch!

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Ava Williams

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Just to clarify what you're seeing: • Cycle code 20241005 = processed in the 10th week, 5th cycle of 2024 • 971 code = notice issued • $0 amount = no change to your refund amount • SBTPG showing account = they've received notification your refund is approved This combination typically means your DDD (846 code) will appear on your next transcript update. Most people in your situation see their refund within 3-7 business days from this point. The system follows a very predictable pattern once SBTPG has your information.

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Sasha Ivanov

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I've been through this exact process before. Here's what will happen next: The IRS received your response form on approximately March 20th, 2024 (based on your timeline). They typically take 4-6 weeks to process these responses. You should see movement on your return around April 17th-May 1st. On April 15th, check your tax transcript (if you can access it). Look for a 971 code with a future date - that's when they'll send you a notice about their decision. About 5-7 days after that date, if approved, your refund should be released. If by May 8th you haven't seen any movement, that's when you should definitely call the IRS directly, as it would indicate your case might need additional attention.

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Liam Murphy

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Does calling them earlier help at all? Or just waste time? I'm in a similar situation. Sent my form back two weeks ago. No updates yet.

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Amara Okafor

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Ugh, I HATE how they make this sound so straightforward! I called multiple times during my marketplace verification nightmare last year and got different answers every single time. One agent told me it was resolved, another said they never received my form, and a third said I needed to wait another 8 weeks! The system is completely broken!

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Have you tried checking your tax transcript online? That might show if there's a 570 hold code on your account. I went through something similar last year (because apparently the IRS loves giving independent contractors extra special attention šŸ™„). When I couldn't get answers from the regular channels, I ended up contacting my local Taxpayer Advocate Service. They can sometimes help push things along when you're stuck in verification limbo. The funny thing is, after all that waiting and stress, they just released my refund suddenly with no explanation. The tax system really knows how to keep us on our toes!

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