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Just a heads up - when I filed my W7 with multiple years of returns, they processed the returns in order (oldest first). Make sure both returns are completely filled out with "ITIN Applied For" written where the SSN would go. Also, if you're claiming any refundable credits, be prepared for additional scrutiny.
Do you remember how long it took to process everything? I'm concerned because one of my returns has a refund I really need.
My entire process took about 3.5 months from submission to receiving the ITIN and having both returns processed. The first return (older one) was processed about 2 weeks after I received my ITIN letter, and the second return was processed about 2 weeks after that. If you're counting on that refund, just be prepared for the wait. Unfortunately, there's no way to expedite the process unless you qualify for one of the very specific expedite criteria (which most people don't).
Quick question - I'm in a similar situation but I actually have THREE years of returns I need to file with a W7. Has anyone done more than two at once? Is there a limit?
There's no official limit to how many years you can attach to a W7 application, but I typically don't recommend more than three years at once. The package gets unwieldy, and the more complex your submission, the higher the chances of processing errors.
One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you check if you need to file a Spanish tax return too! Many countries require non-residents to file tax returns for investment income earned there. Spain has something called the "Modelo 210" for non-residents with Spanish-source income. If you've already paid Spanish taxes on those stock gains, you'll want documentation of that to claim your foreign tax credit on your US return.
Is there a threshold for this Spanish filing requirement? I have a very small investment account in Spain (under ā¬1000) and wondering if I need to bother with this.
Yes, there is a threshold, but it's based on your income, not account size. If your Spanish-source income is below about ā¬1,600 annually, you're generally exempt from filing the Modelo 210. However, rules can change and there are exceptions, so it's worth double-checking with a Spanish tax advisor if you're uncertain. When I had a similar situation, I found that even though I wasn't required to file in Spain, having documentation from my Spanish bank about any tax they withheld was crucial for claiming my US foreign tax credit correctly. Ask your bank for an annual tax statement ("certificado fiscal anual") to help with your US filing.
Anyone know if the US-Spain tax treaty has special provisions for capital gains? I know some treaties treat them differently than regular income.
Yes, the US-Spain tax treaty does address capital gains. Generally, under Article 13, capital gains from selling stocks are only taxable in your country of residence. So if you're a US resident, technically only the US should tax these gains. However, Spain might still withhold taxes, and you'd need to use Form 1116 to claim the foreign tax credit. As always with international tax, there are exceptions and complications. For example, if the Spanish company derives most of its value from real estate in Spain, different rules might apply.
My dad went through something similar with a CP2000 payment earlier this year. His check didn't get cashed for almost 8 weeks! What we did was take pictures of the check before sending it, along with the envelope and the CP2000 response letter. We also went to the post office and got a Certificate of Mailing (costs like $1.50) which proves the date it was sent. When the IRS finally did process everything, they tried to add interest for the "late" payment, but we were able to fax them the Certificate of Mailing showing it was sent on time. They ended up removing the additional interest charges. The important thing is to document EVERYTHING. Don't stop payment unless absolutely necessary because that just complicates things further.
Thanks for mentioning the Certificate of Mailing option! I didn't know that was a thing. Did you have to request the interest removal specifically or did they do it automatically once they saw your documentation?
We definitely had to request the interest removal specifically - nothing happens automatically with the IRS! We had to call (took forever to get through) and explain the situation, then fax the Certificate of Mailing to the number they provided. It took about 3 weeks after sending the fax for them to process the adjustment and remove the interest charges. The key was getting a specific reference number for our request when we called, so we could follow up if needed.
Just wondering - did your relatives send the check to the correct IRS address? Different types of payments go to different processing centers. I made the mistake of sending a CP2000 payment to the regular tax payment address once, and it took MONTHS to get sorted out because it went to the wrong department.
This is such an important point. The IRS has like a dozen different addresses, and they change sometimes too! I always double-check the address on the actual notice rather than using a general IRS address.
Anyone else having issues with tax software not correctly identifying long-term vs short-term capital gains when you enter 12/31/23? My software keeps defaulting some of these to short-term even though the purchase dates are clearly from 2021. I have to manually override each transaction!
Which software are you using? I had the same issue with H&R Block last year but this year it seems fixed. Try entering the acquisition date as 01/01/2021 instead of 1/1/21 - sometimes the date format inconsistency causes problems.
I'm using TaxAct. The weird thing is that it's only happening on some transactions, not all of them. I'll try your suggestion about the acquisition date format! I've been using month/day/year but maybe it needs the leading zeros. It's just so tedious to fix each one when I have about 40 transactions from 12/31/23.
Is anyone else's brain just automatically typing 123123 for everything now? I accidentally put it as the date on a check yesterday š Tax season is officially melting my brain!
HAHAHA I did the same thing on an email to a client! I typed "As of 123123" instead of today's date. And I keep reading the number on receipts as dates now. Tax season madness is real!
Lucy Taylor
Just to add some important info about 1099-Cs that others haven't mentioned - even when debt is cancelled and you get a 1099-C, there are several exclusions that might help avoid the tax hit: 1) Bankruptcy - Debts discharged through bankruptcy aren't considered taxable income 2) Insolvency - If you were "insolvent" (debts exceeded assets) when the debt was cancelled 3) Qualified Principal Residence Indebtedness - For certain home mortgage debt (though this exclusion has changed in recent years) 4) Certain farm debts 5) Non-recourse loans Your friend needs to understand that the 1099-C isn't a magic bullet to STOP foreclosure, but knowing about these exclusions might help with the tax consequences afterward. Either way, he needs to talk to the mortgage company ASAP and possibly a tax professional too.
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Connor Murphy
ā¢The Qualified Principal Residence exclusion has been extended again, right? I thought it expired but then Congress renewed it. Do you know what the current status is?
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Lucy Taylor
ā¢Yes, you're right about the Qualified Principal Residence Indebtedness exclusion. It has gone through several extensions. The Consolidated Appropriations Act extended it through December 31, 2025, but reduced the maximum amount of excluded debt from $2 million to $750,000 ($375,000 for married filing separately). This is definitely good news for homeowners facing foreclosure, but it only applies to debt used to buy, build, or substantially improve your principal residence. If the mortgage included cash-out refinancing used for other purposes (like credit card debt or vacations), that portion wouldn't qualify for the exclusion.
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KhalilStar
Is your friend talking about some kind of "debt elimination scheme" where people claim they can create/file a 1099-C themselves to eliminate debt? If so, please warn him that this is a known tax SCAM that the IRS has explicitly warned about! Some shady "tax consultants" sell programs claiming you can issue your own 1099-C to "discharge" your debts. This is 100% illegal and the IRS considers it fraud. People who have tried this have faced serious penalties and even criminal charges. Only the lender can issue a legitimate 1099-C when THEY decide to cancel a debt. Your friend cannot create one himself to make his mortgage disappear. Please make sure he understands this before he gets into serious trouble!
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Cameron Black
ā¢Oh man, this might actually be what he's talking about! He mentioned something about "filing" the 1099-C himself, which confused me because I thought only banks could issue those. He said he found some guy online who helps people "eliminate mortgage debt" this way for a fee. I'm definitely going to warn him - last thing he needs on top of losing his house is getting in trouble with the IRS!
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KhalilStar
ā¢You absolutely need to warn him immediately. This is a well-known scam that the IRS actively pursues. These "debt elimination specialists" typically charge thousands of dollars for worthless advice that can lead to serious consequences. The IRS has specifically identified these self-filed 1099-C schemes in their "Dirty Dozen" tax scams list. People who follow this advice can face penalties for filing fraudulent tax documents, back taxes with interest, and in serious cases, criminal prosecution. Some victims have ended up owing even more money than they started with after penalties and interest were applied.
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