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Former IRS employee here. A lot of good advice already, but I want to add something important: request wage and income transcripts from the IRS. Even though your employer gave you your W2 late, they likely submitted the information to the IRS on time. You can request these transcripts online at irs.gov/transcripts, and they'll show all reported income from your employer. This can sometimes help if there are any discrepancies between what your employer finally sent you and what they reported to the IRS. Also, if you do owe, make sure to pay as much as you can now even before filing if possible. The failure-to-pay penalties are separate from failure-to-file and continue to accumulate.
This is super helpful, thank you! I didn't even know I could check what my employer reported to the IRS. Do these transcripts become available pretty quickly after employers submit them, or is there a delay? If my W2 just got generated recently, would it even show up there yet?
The wage and income transcripts are usually available by late May or June for the previous tax year, but there can be some lag time. If your employer truly just submitted your information recently, it might not show up yet. However, most employers submit their W2 information by the end of January, even if they're slow in getting the actual forms to employees. It's always worth checking - you might be surprised to find your information has been there all along, which could potentially strengthen your case about employer negligence for the penalty abatement request.
Just want to add something important that no one has mentioned yet. You should fill out Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2) and attach it to your return. This form is specifically for situations where your employer didn't provide a W-2 or provided an incorrect one. Even though you have your W-2 now, filing with the 4852 helps document that it was received late. Make sure to check box 7a which states "I have tried to obtain Form W-2 from my employer or payer with no success." This creates an official record of the issue and can help with penalty abatement requests.
I don't think this advice is correct. Form 4852 is only if you NEVER received your W-2 or if it's incorrect. Since OP has the W-2 now, even though it's late, they should use the actual W-2 for filing, not the substitute form.
Don't forget about social security taxes! Even if you're eligible for foreign tax credits or exclusions, you might still owe US Social Security and Medicare taxes on your foreign earnings if you're employed by a US company. The rules are different for self-employed people working abroad. If Kenya and the US have a totalization agreement (social security agreement), the rules might be different, but I don't think they do. Worth looking into though!
I completely forgot about social security taxes, thank you! Do you know if there's a minimum threshold for this? Like if I'm only there for 8 months, would that change anything about Social Security obligations?
For Social Security taxes, the duration of your stay doesn't typically create a minimum threshold. If you're employed by a US company, they'll generally continue to withhold Social Security and Medicare taxes from your paychecks regardless of where you're physically working, unless there's a totalization agreement with that country. As far as I know, the US and Kenya don't have a totalization agreement, so you'd continue paying into the US Social Security system. The good news is this means you'll continue earning credits toward your eventual US Social Security benefits, even while working abroad.
Anyone know how the Kenya situation specifically works? I spent 3 months there last year working remotely and honestly just didn't bother figuring out the tax situation... Did I mess up? Should I file something retroactively??
I'm not a tax expert, but from what I understand, Kenya typically doesn't consider you a tax resident unless you're there for 183+ days in a year. Since you were only there for 3 months (presumably less than 90 days), you likely weren't subject to Kenyan income tax. If you did everything correctly with your US taxes and reported all your income there, you probably don't need to worry about filing anything retroactively for Kenya. But if you're concerned, it might be worth consulting with a tax professional who knows the Kenyan tax system.
That's a relief! Yes I was there for exactly 89 days and did report everything on my US taxes. Was worried I might have some surprise tax bill waiting for me from the Kenyan government. Thanks for the info!
Does anyone know if using tax software (like TurboTax Self-Employed) handles the annualized method calculations? I'm terrible at doing these worksheets myself.
TurboTax Self-Employed does have an estimated tax calculator, but in my experience it doesn't handle the annualized method very well. It more focuses on the equal payment method. I ended up using the IRS worksheets anyway. QuickBooks Self-Employed does a better job with variable income and quarterly calculations, but it's still not perfect for true annualization calculations.
One warning about AIIM - if you have any capital gains or losses, especially if they're significant, the calculation gets MUCH more complicated. I tried doing this myself last year and messed it up pretty badly.
One thing to consider OP - I think you might still be able to claim the Recovery Rebate Credit for the stimulus payments you missed, but you'd need to file the appropriate year's tax return. The first two stimulus payments were for tax year 2020 (filed in 2021) and the third was for tax year 2021 (filed in 2022). You can still file those returns since they're within the 3-year window! So while your 2018 refund is unfortunately gone, you might be able to get those stimulus payments by filing 2020 and 2021 returns ASAP.
Ok this is at least some good news! Do you know roughly how much the stimulus payments were? And do I need any special documentation to claim them now?
The stimulus payments totaled $3,200 per eligible adult - $1,200 for the first payment, $600 for the second payment, and $1,400 for the third payment. There were additional amounts for dependents too. You don't need any special documentation beyond what you'd normally include with your tax return. When you file, you'll just need to complete the Recovery Rebate Credit section where you'll indicate that you didn't receive the payments previously. Most tax software will walk you through this with a series of questions about which payments you received.
Just an FYI - while you can't get your 2018 refund anymore, you should still file that return anyway if you're going to file for later years. Having gaps in your filing history can trigger additional scrutiny, and having a complete record helps establish your overall tax situation more clearly.
Rebecca Johnston
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - when you file as independent (not being claimed as a dependent), make sure you check if you qualify for the Recovery Rebate Credit for 2022 if you didn't receive the full amount of the third Economic Impact Payment in 2021. Since you were claimed as a dependent before, you might not have received it, but could claim it on your 2022 return if you're filing independently.
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Vincent Bimbach
β’Whoa, I had no idea about the Recovery Rebate Credit! I definitely didn't get any stimulus money before because my parents claimed me. How do I check if I qualify for this? Would it be a significant amount?
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Rebecca Johnston
β’You should qualify if you didn't receive the third stimulus payment (which was $1,400) and you're now filing as independent. Most tax software will ask you questions about this specifically - something like "Did you receive the third Economic Impact Payment in 2021?" It's definitely significant - it would be up to $1,400 added to your refund! Your tax software should help calculate this, but make sure you answer the questions about Economic Impact Payments carefully. If your parents received the payment for you as their dependent in 2021, you wouldn't qualify, but if no one received a payment for you, you likely will.
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Nathan Dell
I see a lot of people mentioning the "check the box" part, but one thing that tripped me up my first time filing independently was that I got confused between "filing status" and "dependency status." They're not the same! Filing status is about whether you're filing as Single, Head of Household, Married Filing Jointly, etc. The dependency question is separate from this. You'll likely file as "Single" for your filing status, and then separately indicate that no one can claim you as a dependent.
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Maya Jackson
β’This is such an important distinction! I messed this up my first time filing too. I thought by selecting "Single" as my filing status, I was automatically indicating that I was claiming myself. But they're totally different questions on the tax forms.
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