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Something nobody mentioned yet - with your income level, you might look into contributing to a Roth IRA instead of a traditional IRA. At $65k, you're probably better off paying taxes now (while your rate is relatively low) than later in retirement when your rate might be higher. Max contribution is $7,000 for 2025 if you're under 50. While it won't reduce your current tax bill, the growth is tax-free when you withdraw in retirement, which is huge!
Wouldn't traditional IRA be better if they're trying to lower their current tax bill though? Roth doesn't help with that at all.
You're right that a traditional IRA would help lower the current tax bill, which is definitely an advantage if immediate cash flow is the primary concern. I suggested Roth because at $65k, OP is probably in the 22% tax bracket now, and many financial planners believe this is a relatively favorable rate to pay taxes at, especially for someone early in their career whose income (and potentially tax bracket) will likely increase. The long-term tax-free growth often outweighs the current tax deduction for younger earners. But it's definitely a personal decision that depends on individual circumstances and priorities.
Anybody have experience with adjusting their W-4 specifically? My pay is similar to OP's and I'm wondering how many allowances I should claim to get a more reasonable withholding without owing a bunch at tax time.
The new W-4 doesn't use allowances anymore (changed in 2020). You now have to specify actual dollar amounts for additional withholding or reduction. Bit more complicated but more accurate.
Thanks for the correction! Shows how long it's been since I updated mine. Guess I need to look at the new form and figure out what numbers to put in there. Appreciate the info!
Another approach is to estimate based on your major purchases. I usually focus only on items over $100 purchased online without sales tax. For everything else, I take the safe harbor amount. No state tax auditor is going to come after you for a few dollars difference in use tax, they're looking for people who buy $5,000 artwork or expensive jewelry out of state to avoid taxes.
Does Etsy charge sales tax? I buy a lot of stuff from small creators there and never really paid attention to whether tax was included.
Etsy began automatically collecting and remitting sales tax in most states starting around 2019, but implementation rolled out gradually. For current purchases, they should be collecting the appropriate sales tax based on your delivery address. If you're calculating use tax for previous years, you'd need to check your receipts. Prior to their automated system, it depended on whether the individual seller collected sales tax, which varied widely. Small sellers below certain thresholds weren't always required to collect tax in all states.
Don't forget that use tax isn't just for online purchases. If you physically traveled to another state, bought something, and brought it back to your home state to use, you technically owe use tax on that too if you didn't pay sales tax equal to your home state's rate.
Wait really? So if I went on vacation to Oregon (which has no sales tax) and bought a laptop there, I'd owe use tax in my home state when I got back?
One important tip: when you request the First Time Abatement, be very specific about which penalty you want abated. The IRS might have charged both a late filing penalty AND a late payment penalty. Make sure your request addresses all penalties you were charged. Also, keep records of everything! Document when you called, who you spoke with, and what was said. If you send a letter, use certified mail so you have proof of delivery.
Thanks for this advice! Looking at my notice now, I think there might actually be both types of penalties. Would I be eligible for FTA on both the late filing and late payment penalties? Or just one of them?
You can absolutely request First Time Abatement for both penalties! The FTA can cover failure-to-file, failure-to-pay, and failure-to-deposit penalties. Just make sure to specify in your request that you're asking for abatement of all penalties assessed for that tax year. Many people don't realize that multiple penalties can be covered under a single FTA request, as long as they're all for the same tax period. The important thing is to clearly identify all the penalty types in your request so nothing gets overlooked.
Has anyone used the IRS online account portal to request penalty abatement? I've heard mixed things about whether this is possible or if phone/mail are the only options.
3 Hey! This happened to my brother last year. It turned out our parents claimed him because they still had him on their health insurance and thought that was enough to claim him as a dependent. The rejection doesn't tell you WHO claimed you, so you really need to ask anyone who might have. After talking to whoever claimed you, one of you will need to file an amended return. If they agree they shouldn't have claimed you, they should file Form 1040X to amend their return. If they insist they were right to claim you, you'll have to file a paper return (not electronic) and the IRS will investigate both returns. Just know that if you go this route, both your refund and theirs could be held up for months while they figure it out.
14 I'm in a similar situation as OP but my parents are refusing to amend their return. They paid for my college tuition for spring semester 2024 and think that means they can claim me, even though I lived on my own and paid all my other expenses. Will the IRS side with me?
3 The IRS will evaluate based on their dependency tests. The main ones are the support test (did you provide more than half of your own support for the year) and the residency test (where you lived). For college students, paying tuition doesn't automatically qualify someone to claim you as a dependent. If you provided more than half of your total support for the year (including housing, food, medical expenses, etc.), then you likely wouldn't qualify as their dependent even if they paid your tuition. Document all your expenses to show you supported yourself. The IRS will review both returns and make a determination based on the facts and documentation provided.
11 IMPORTANT: If you suspect this might be identity theft (and not just your parents claiming you), contact the IRS Identity Protection Unit IMMEDIATELY at 800-908-4490. You should also: 1) File a police report 2) Contact credit bureaus to place a fraud alert 3) Fill out IRS Form 14039 (Identity Theft Affidavit) 4) Still file your paper return with the affidavit attached My cousin had this happen and it turned out to be identity theft. Don't wait to take action if you've confirmed no family members claimed you!
5 Is there any way to find out who claimed you as a dependent without calling the IRS? Can they tell you that information when you call?
11 The IRS can't directly tell you who claimed you as a dependent due to privacy laws, even if you call them. However, they can confirm whether it was someone who would logically have your information (like a parent or guardian) versus a complete stranger (suggesting identity theft). That's why it's important to first check with family members who might have legitimately claimed you. If everyone denies it, that's when you should suspect identity theft and take the steps I mentioned. The IRS will investigate both returns in that case and will contact you with their findings, which may include information about the fraudulent filer if they determine it was identity theft.
Angelina Farar
You probably haven't heard from the IRS because you're under their radar. Once you hit a certain income threshold they start looking more closely. My friend ignored quarterly payments for years with her Shopify store until she got a notice with almost $2,800 in penalties! The real hack is to have enough withholding from another job if you have one. If your day job withholds enough to cover your self-employment taxes too, you can avoid quarterlies. That's what I do - I just have extra taken out of my regular paychecks to cover my side hustle.
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SebastiΓ‘n Stevens
β’How do you calculate how much extra to withhold from your day job to cover the self-employment stuff? Is there some formula or calculator for this?
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Angelina Farar
β’I use the IRS withholding calculator on their website, then add about 15% of what I expect to make from my self-employment income to account for both income tax and self-employment tax. Then I submit a new W-4 to my employer requesting the additional withholding amount on line 4(c). I usually do this calculation twice a year to make sure I'm on track.
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Bethany Groves
Honestly, the quarterlies are annoying but not that hard once you set up a system. I've been selling on eBay for 10+ years and here's what works for me: 1) I set aside 30% of all my profits in a separate savings account 2) I use the IRS Direct Pay website to make payments each quarter 3) I keep it simple and just pay 25% of last year's total tax each quarter As long as you pay 100% of your previous year's tax liability (or 110% if your AGI was over $150k), you're safe from underpayment penalties. This "safe harbor" rule is your friend! Don't stress too much about the past - just start doing it correctly going forward. The penalties aren't massive if you've been paying in full by April 15 each year.
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KingKongZilla
β’Does the IRS Direct Pay system give you some kind of receipt or confirmation you can save? I'm always worried about making these payments and them getting lost in the system somehow.
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