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Don't forget about state-level requirements! Even with no income, many states require annual filings for LLCs. I learned this the hard way when I got hit with penalty fees in Illinois for missing the annual report deadline, even though my SMLLC had zero activity that year. Each state has different rules, so check your specific state's requirements.
How much were the penalties? I have an LLC in Illinois too and I'm not sure if I filed correctly last year.
The penalties in Illinois were $100 for late filing plus the $75 annual report fee. So $175 total for a business that made exactly $0 that year. Pretty frustrating. The most annoying part is that the state filing deadlines often don't align with federal tax deadlines. In Illinois, the annual report is due by the first day of the LLC's anniversary month (when you formed it). So if you formed your LLC in March, your report is due by March 1st each year, regardless of tax filing extensions.
Does anyone know if banks report LLC account info to the IRS even if there's no activity? I have a business checking account for my SMLLC but didn't use it at all last year.
Banks generally only report interest income via 1099-INT if your account earned more than $10 in interest for the year. If your account had no activity and earned no interest (or less than $10), the bank typically doesn't report anything to the IRS about that account.
Something else to consider that nobody mentioned - if you choose to have the withholding spread across multiple paychecks instead of taking it all at once, it might prevent you from dipping below your normal take-home pay too dramatically. Taking it all at once could really hurt your cash flow for that pay period. Also check if your employer is withholding for state taxes too. Some employers only adjust federal, and then you still end up owing a lot at the state level.
That's a really good point about spreading it out. I think I'll do the 5 paycheck option since that would be way less disruptive to my monthly budget. Do you think I need to specifically ask HR about the state tax withholding or would they typically handle both?
Definitely ask HR specifically about state taxes. In my experience, some payroll systems don't automatically adjust state withholdings when federal is increased. Just tell them you want to make sure both federal AND state taxes are being withheld appropriately for the HRA payment. They should be able to handle that for you.
There's one more benefit to having them withhold it now that nobody's mentioned. If you're planning to itemize deductions, the state and local tax (SALT) deduction is limited to $10,000. By having taxes withheld in 2023, those withholdings count toward your 2023 SALT deduction limit. If you wait and pay when you file in 2024, those tax payments would count toward your 2024 SALT limit instead.
Just want to add - make sure you're reporting ALL transactions separately, not just the net amount. I made this mistake and it triggered an audit. The IRS wants to see each purchase and sale listed individually on Form 8949, even if you had hundreds of trades. If your trading app doesn't have a tax document section to download this data, check your monthly statements or transaction history. Most platforms let you export everything to Excel or CSV, which makes filling out the forms easier. And don't forget to include wash sales if you rebought similar securities within 30 days!
What's a wash sale? Never heard of that rule before and I definitely bought some of the same stocks multiple times when they dipped.
A wash sale happens when you sell a security at a loss and then buy the same or a "substantially identical" security within 30 days before or after the sale date. When this happens, you can't immediately claim the loss for tax purposes - instead, the loss gets added to the cost basis of the replacement shares. This is definitely something that could affect your situation if you were frequently trading the same stocks. Many new traders get caught by this rule because it can make your tax situation much more complicated than simply adding up gains and losses. Your trading platform should mark wash sales on your tax documents, but they sometimes miss them, especially if you were trading similar securities across different platforms.
Bro I had literally the exact same situation last year. The IRS letter freaked me out cuz they said I owed like $5200 in taxes when I actually LOST money overall. The key is to respond quickly and provide EVERYTHING. Don't just send what they ask for - send your complete trading history showing every buy and sell with the dates and amounts. I had to login to my old trading app and download all statements for the year. I also included a cover letter explaining that I was new to investing and misunderstood the reporting requirements, but that I had an overall loss for the year. Took about 2 months but they finally resolved it and I ended up owing nothing. Just be super organized with your documentation.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you just mail everything in or did you have to talk to someone on the phone? I'm dreading having to call them.
I started by mailing everything with delivery confirmation so I had proof they received it. When I didn't hear anything back after 6 weeks, I did have to call. Took about a dozen attempts over 3 days before I finally got through to a human. The person I talked to was actually pretty helpful - they found my documents in their system and said they were still in the queue for review. They added notes to my file about my call. About two weeks after that, I got a letter saying the issue was resolved and I didn't owe anything. So while calling sucked, it probably helped speed things up in the end.
Make sure you check if the 1099-misc has any amounts in Box 4 for federal income tax withheld. If there is withholding you didn't account for when you filed, you definitely want to amend to get that money back!
Good point! Also worth checking Box 16/17 for state withholding too. Lots of people forget about state taxes when considering amendments.
Thanks for the tip! I just double-checked the form and there's no withholding in Box 4 or any of the state boxes. It looks like they treated me as a pure independent contractor with no tax withholding. Since I already reported the full income amount and paid the appropriate taxes, I'm going to follow the advice here and not file an amendment. I was worried the IRS might send me some kind of automated notice about a "missing" 1099, but it sounds like their system will see I already included the income. That's a relief!
Remember to keep the 1099-misc with your tax records for at least 3 years! That's the standard IRS audit window. Also, for future reference, if you're self employed you should be getting a 1099-NEC now, not a 1099-misc (they changed it a few years ago). Sounds like your client might be using outdated forms.
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16 Has anyone used the annualized income installment method (Form 2210 Schedule AI)? My income is super uneven throughout the year and my accountant mentioned this but said it's complicated.
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ā¢22 I use it every year for my seasonal business. It's definitely more work but WORTH IT if your income is lumpy. Instead of being required to pay equal amounts each quarter, you calculate based on what you've actually earned by the end of each quarter. My Q1 and Q2 payments are tiny, then Q3 and Q4 are massive when we hit our busy season. Your accountant is right that it's complicated though. You basically have to do a mini tax return for each quarter. I wouldn't try it without professional help the first time.
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4 Just remember that corporate estimated taxes work differently than individual estimated taxes! My LLC is taxed as an S-Corp and I got slammed with penalties because I didn't realize the rules were different for the corporate portion vs. the pass-through income. Talk to a tax pro who specializes in your specific business structure before making any decisions.
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