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Can I get the child tax credit with zero income for 2023? Single disabled parent question

I'm currently unable to work due to my disability and I'm a single parent to my daughter. No other adults in the household contributing income. My disability benefits application is still processing - been waiting almost 8 months now. I'm wondering if it's still possible for me to claim the child tax credit for my daughter even though I had zero income last year? Or is the child tax credit only available to parents who can work and file tax returns with income? It feels really unfair if I'm missing out on this financial help just because of my medical condition preventing me from working. Are there any exceptions for situations like mine where a parent is disabled but still caring for their child? Really struggling financially while waiting for disability to come through and any help would make a huge difference right now.

Just to add some additional info here - if you have ANY earned income from early 2023 before your disability prevented you from working, that counts toward the $2,500 threshold. Some people forget about jobs they had just for a month or two at the beginning of the year. Also, if your disability is approved retroactively and you get a lump sum payment later, that won't help for the earned income requirement, but you'll want to file Form 915 to potentially exclude some of that lump sum from taxation in the year you receive it.

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Thanks for mentioning this! I actually did work in January 2023 very briefly before my condition worsened, but it was only about $1,200 in earnings. Is there any way that partial amount would help me qualify even though it's below the $2,500 threshold?

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That $1,200 in earnings would count toward the $2,500 threshold, but unfortunately you'd still be short of the minimum needed to qualify for the refundable portion of the Child Tax Credit. You'd need to reach at least $2,500 in earned income to start qualifying. However, it's still important to file a tax return showing this income, especially if you had any withholdings that might be refundable. Plus, having filed returns consistently will help when your disability is approved, as it creates a clearer picture of your work history and the onset of your inability to work.

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Also consider looking into whether you might qualify for the Credit for Other Dependents, which is a non-refundable credit of up to $500 per dependent who doesn't qualify for the Child Tax Credit. Even without income, establishing a filing history can be important for future benefits.

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This is actually not great advice for someone with zero income. Non-refundable credits can only reduce tax liability, and with no income there's no tax liability to reduce. So the Credit for Other Dependents wouldn't help in this specific situation.

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What's the key difference between a traditional IRA and a 401k? Confused about reporting them

So I started a new job last year and they offer a 401k plan which I signed up for. But now I'm looking at my tax forms and I'm confused...I also have a traditional IRA from a few years back that I haven't contributed to recently. When I'm filling out my taxes it's asking about retirement contributions and I'm not sure if I should be putting my 401k contributions in the spot where it asks about traditional IRA contributions? They seem really similar from what I can tell - both are pre-tax retirement accounts right? But then why are they treated differently on tax forms? Sorry if this is a dumb question, first time dealing with both accounts in the same year.

Another important difference is that with a 401k, your employer might match some of your contributions (free money!!!), but IRAs don't have any matching. Also, if you leave your job, you'll need to decide what to do with your 401k - either leave it there, roll it to your new employer's plan, or roll it to an IRA.

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Can you contribute to both a 401k and an IRA in the same year? And if I already have a 401k at work, can I still deduct traditional IRA contributions?

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Yes, you can definitely contribute to both a 401k and an IRA in the same year. They have separate contribution limits. Whether you can deduct traditional IRA contributions when you have a 401k depends on your income. For 2025, if you're single and your modified AGI is below $78,000, you can take a full deduction. Between $78,000-$88,000, you get a partial deduction. Above $88,000, no deduction. For married filing jointly, the phase-out range is $123,000-$143,000. Even if you can't deduct it, you could still do a non-deductible IRA contribution and then convert to Roth (the backdoor Roth strategy).

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Don't forget another major difference - with a 401k you're usually limited to whatever investment options your employer's plan offers, which might be pretty limited and have higher fees. With an IRA you can open it anywhere (Vanguard, Fidelity, etc) and choose from thousands of investment options. That's why many people max their 401k up to any employer match, then contribute to an IRA, then go back to the 401k if they still have money to save.

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Does it make more sense to max out your 401k first or your IRA first? My company matches the first 5% in my 401k but the investment options aren't great.

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How can I get access to last year's AGI after a flood destroyed my tax documents?

So frustrating! I'm trying to file my taxes but I need last year's adjusted gross income and I'm totally stuck. A few months ago we had this massive flood and I lost a bunch of important papers including all my tax stuff from last year. I don't remember my AGI and I forgot the pin I set up to have it automatically pulled. I tried getting my transcript online through the IRS website but hit another roadblock. They want to verify my identity by matching a credit card or loan account they have on file. Problem is, my bank issued me a new card after the flooding damaged my old one, so the numbers don't match anymore. I know I can request a mailed transcript, but they'll only send it to the address on my most recent tax return. I've moved since then because of the flood damage, so that won't work either. Calling the IRS feels like it would be a nightmare right now during tax season. Is there ANY other way I can access my previous year's AGI? Maybe through my old tax software or something I'm not thinking of? Really appreciate any help before I give in and spend hours on hold with the IRS!

Another option nobody's mentioned - if you filed with a tax preparer last year (like H&R Block, Jackson Hewitt, etc.), they should have your returns on file regardless of whether you have the documents or not. I'm a seasonal tax preparer and we keep records for years. Just bring your ID to prove you're the same person, and we can pull up your AGI in seconds. Most places will give you this info for free even if you're not using them again this year. Worth a try before going through all the IRS hassle!

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What if my tax preparer was a local guy who's now retired? He did my taxes for years but closed his business last fall. Do preparers have to transfer their records when they close or am I just out of luck?

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That's definitely a tough situation. When preparers retire, they're supposed to notify clients about what will happen with their records. Many transfer them to another preparer who takes over their business, or maintain limited access to records for situations exactly like this. If you know his name, try searching online to see if there's any information about who took over his clients. You could also check with other local tax offices - sometimes they absorb the clients and records from retiring preparers in the area.

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Has anyone tried just going to a local IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center in person? I had a similar issue and made an appointment at my local office. Brought my ID and they printed my transcript right there. No mailing, no waiting for online access, just walked out with it same day.

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How did you make an appointment? When I called the IRS appointment line it said the wait was over 3 weeks for my local office. Did you just walk in or is there a faster way to get seen?

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ERC Calculation for Small Business - Confused about Payroll Tax Credit vs Deferment

After months of back and forth, I finally managed to get my bookkeeper to understand that the Employee Retention Credit is an actual credit against employment taxes, not just a deferment of social security taxes. She kept treating it like the social security tax deferment program and insisted it wasn't a refundable credit. We're a small restaurant that kept most staff on payroll during the lockdowns, and I've been trying to calculate how much we qualify for. My bookkeeper kept saying we could "delay paying" the employer portion of social security taxes, but wouldn't acknowledge this is a separate program that's an actual credit for qualifying wages. Has anyone gone through the ERC calculation process? I'm looking at Q1-Q3 2021 when our revenue was down about 30% compared to 2019. I think we qualify under the "partial suspension of operations" rule too since we were limited to takeout only for part of that time. I've heard the credit can be substantial - up to $7,000 per employee per quarter in 2021. That would be a game-changer for our recovery. I'm thinking I need a new accountant at this point, but wanted to check if anyone here has experience with the actual calculation process?

Just a warning to everyone: there are a lot of ERC mills out there making false claims about eligibility. Make sure your business truly qualifies before filing for the credit. The IRS has specifically flagged ERC for enhanced scrutiny. You need to show either: 1) Significant decline in gross receipts (50% for 2020, 20% for 2021) OR 2) Full or partial suspension of operations due to government orders The "partial suspension" has to have actually impacted your business operations significantly. Just having capacity limits might not be enough if it didn't actually hamper your business.

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What about restaurants that had to switch to takeout only? We had about 40% of our normal business volume but kept all staff on. Does that count as partial suspension?

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Yes, restaurants that were forced to close their dining rooms and switch to takeout-only would generally qualify under the partial suspension test. That's a clear case where government orders directly limited your normal operations in a significant way. The key is documenting exactly how these restrictions impacted your business. Keep copies of the local/state orders that required the closure of your dining room, notes about dates these were in effect, and evidence of how it affected your operations (like showing you normally had dine-in service before the pandemic). The IRS will be looking closely at these claims, so having good documentation is crucial. The switch from dine-in to takeout-only is actually one of the examples the IRS itself has used of qualifying partial suspension.

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Has anyone received their ERC payment yet? I filed amended 941-X forms for Q2-Q3 2021 back in January and still haven't heard anything or received the credit. My accountant says it could take 6+ months but that seems ridiculous!

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Filed ours in November last year, just got the refund last week. So about 8 months total wait time. IRS is super backed up with these claims.

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We filed in December and got our first quarter payment in June, still waiting on Q2 and Q3. No rhyme or reason to the order they're processing them.

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Need guidance on fixing 25 years of unfiled taxes - trying to get back on track

I know, I know... spare me the lectures. I haven't filed taxes in roughly 25 years. I only worked for a few of those years at the beginning of that period. For most of that time, I was homeless and without employment. During the last 6 years, I got involved with some questionable income sources that eventually landed me in Federal prison. In 2021, due to a judicial error, about $67,000 was returned to me, which I'm pretty sure is documented somewhere with the IRS. I've worked extremely hard to completely turn my life around since then. I've secured employment with a global energy corporation, and I'm finally ready to start filing my taxes properly. I'm wondering what kind of costs I should expect to have someone help me resolve this situation, or if it's something I might be able to handle myself. Also, what should I anticipate from the IRS once I start this process? I'm currently in the Boston area, so if anyone can recommend where to get assistance with this without being taken advantage of by either the tax professional or the IRS, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance for any advice.

As someone who works in tax resolution, here's my advice: Get your IRS transcripts first. You can request them online at IRS.gov or by filing Form 4506-T. This will show what information the IRS has about your income for those years. For the Boston area, try contacting the Boston Tax Help Coalition - they provide free tax preparation for low to moderate income taxpayers and might be able to help with your situation or at least point you in the right direction.

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Does it matter if some of the unfiled years included illegal income? Not asking for a friend...seriously wondering how that affects the process.

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Regarding income from illegal activities, it technically should be reported on tax returns (yes, seriously - the IRS requires reporting of all income regardless of source). However, in practice, most people in this situation report it as "other income" without specifying the source. The Fifth Amendment can protect you from having to disclose the specific illegal source, but not from paying taxes on the income itself. That said, this is definitely an area where having professional representation is crucial - ideally an attorney with tax expertise who can maintain attorney-client privilege.

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Has anyone used the IRS Fresh Start Program? I heard it helps with penalties but not sure if it applies to cases with this many unfiled years?

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I used it after being behind 7 years. It helped me avoid some penalties, but you have to file all required returns first before you can access most of the benefits. The installment agreements were surprisingly reasonable tho.

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