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One thing nobody's mentioned - are you claiming any tax credits? With your income level, you might qualify for the Saver's Credit (Form 8880) for your 401k contributions. Depending on your exact AGI, you could get up to 10% or 20% credit on your retirement contributions. Also, do you have any student loan interest, education expenses, or other potential deductions outside of what you mentioned? Those could potentially generate a refund if you're not accounting for them.
Rajiv Kumar
ā¢I had no idea about the Saver's Credit! I'll definitely look into that. I do have some student loan interest (about $1,200 last year) but I've been including that on my returns. I don't think I have any other major deductions I'm missing, but maybe I should double check. What's the income limit for the Saver's Credit? I'm worried I might make too much to qualify.
The Saver's Credit has phaseout limits that change annually. For the 2024 tax year (filing in 2025), the credit begins to phase out at $46,000 for single filers and is completely phased out at $71,000. With your income around $68,000, you might qualify for a partial credit, which could result in a small refund. Your student loan interest deduction is good to include - that's up to $2,500 in deductible interest annually. If you work from home at all, you might also want to check if you qualify for any home office deductions, especially if you're an independent contractor for any portion of your income. Every little bit helps!
Has anyone actually compared tax software to see if different programs give different refund amounts? Last year I tried my return on both TurboTax and FreeTaxUSA and got a $340 difference between them - apparently TurboTax missed a deduction that FreeTaxUSA caught. Maybe try running your numbers through a different program than what you've been using?
Ryan Kim
ā¢YES! This happened to me too. H&R Block online gave me a completely different result than Credit Karma Tax (now Cash App Taxes). Turned out H&R Block was correctly applying a credit that Cash App missed. Definitely worth trying a different software.
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Nia Thompson
I ran into this exact problem when selling my rental in Phoenix last year. I noticed the 1099-S amount ($342,000) wasn't showing up on line 1a of Form 4797 even though TurboTax calculated everything correctly. I called TurboTax support and they acknowledged the bug but said they didn't have a fix for it. The support rep recommended I print the return, manually write in the 1099-S amount on line 1a, and mail it in instead of e-filing. That seemed like overkill to me, so I just e-filed as is. Never heard anything from the IRS about it, and that was for my 2023 return.
Did you consider filing an amended return after you noticed the issue? I'm wondering if I should do that since I just found this bug on my already-filed 2024 return.
Nia Thompson
ā¢I didn't file an amended return, and I wouldn't recommend doing so in your case either. An amended return should be used for substantial errors that affect your tax liability, not for missing information that doesn't impact the final calculations. Since the sale details are correctly reported elsewhere on Form 4797 and your tax calculation is accurate, filing an amended return would likely just create unnecessary complexity and potentially delay any refund you're expecting. In my case, the IRS processed my return without any issues despite the blank line 1a.
Has anyone tried calling the IRS directly about this issue rather than relying on forum advice? I have the same problem with a rental property I sold in 2024 for $198k, and my Form 4797 also shows $0 on line 1a even though I got a 1099-S.
From my experience talking with the IRS (mentioned in my comment above), they're well aware of this TurboTax bug. The agent I spoke with said they see this frequently and it doesn't trigger any compliance issues as long as the property sale is fully reported with the correct amounts elsewhere on Form 4797.
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One important thing to know - your preparer should be giving you a copy of the COMPLETED tax return that shows all calculations, not just the signature pages. You should be reviewing the ENTIRE return before signing the e-file authorization. Check that your income, deductions, dependents, and everything else is correct. Make sure the bank account info for direct deposit is correct too!! I've seen preparers put the wrong banking info and then refunds get sent to the wrong account.
Liam Murphy
ā¢Thanks for pointing this out! I checked and they did send me the complete return (about 15 pages). But what exactly should I be looking for? The numbers seem to match my W-2s, but there's so much other stuff I don't really understand.
Focus on verifying the basics first: check that your name, SSN, address, and filing status are correct. Confirm that all your income documents (W-2s, 1099s, etc.) are included with the correct amounts. If you have dependents, make sure they're listed correctly with proper SSNs. For deductions, verify any major items like mortgage interest, property taxes, charitable donations, student loan interest, education expenses, or medical costs if you itemize. Double-check your bank account information for direct deposit of refunds - this is a common error point.
You might want to specifically ask your preparer if they're going to e-file or mail your return. Most do e-file these days, but some smaller preparers still mail paper returns. If they're mailing, you'd need to know if they're mailing it for you or if YOU need to mail it yourself after signing (which happens sometimes). Not trying to add to your stress, just something worth clarifying!
Yeah and e-filing is WAY better! I did paper filing last year and my refund took over 4 months. My sister e-filed and got hers in like 2 weeks. The IRS is still catching up on paper returns from last year.
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Emma Davis
22 For future reference, you can check if you need to amend by looking at the filing instructions that come with most tax forms. In the case of Form 1095-C, it explicitly states on the instructions: "This form is provided for your information only. You don't need to attach it to your tax return, and it doesn't affect your tax liability.
Emma Davis
ā¢3 Wait, so even if the form wasn't blank, you still don't need to include it with your return? I'm confused because I thought health insurance was required for taxes.
Emma Davis
ā¢22 You never need to attach any 1095 forms (A, B, or C) to your tax return - they're information documents only. You use the information from them to fill out your tax return correctly, but the actual forms stay with your personal records. The health insurance requirement for tax purposes (the individual mandate) had its penalty reduced to $0 at the federal level starting in 2019. So while technically the requirement still exists, there's no federal penalty for not having coverage. Some states do have their own penalties though, so it depends on where you live.
Emma Davis
16 Side question - does anyone know if TurboTax handles these forms automatically? I also got a 1095-C after filing and don't want to pay for an amendment if I don't have to.
Emma Davis
ā¢20 TurboTax will ask you about health insurance during the filing process, but you don't need to physically enter the 1095-C if it's blank. The software mainly needs to know if you had coverage and for what months. If you already told TurboTax you didn't have coverage through your employer (which matches your blank 1095-C), then you're fine - no amendment needed.
Malik Johnson
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're documenting EVERYTHING during this Form 8300 audit reconsideration process. Keep records of all communications, copies of everything you send, certified mail receipts, etc. I went through this last year for my construction business and what ultimately saved me was having proof I'd actually sent in the original forms that the IRS claimed they never received. The penalties were about $35,000 and they dropped them completely once I provided proof of mailing. Also, the reconsideration took about 5 months in my case, and I did get several confusing letters during the process saying I still owed the penalties. Don't panic if that happens - just respond to each one referencing your reconsideration request.
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StarGazer101
ā¢Thanks for this tip! Did you end up getting any kind of confirmation that they received your reconsideration request? I'm worried about sending it and then it just disappearing into the void.
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Malik Johnson
ā¢I did eventually get an acknowledgment letter about 3 weeks after sending my reconsideration request. It basically just said they received it and would respond within 90 days (which turned into 5 months, typical IRS). Make sure you send your request via certified mail with return receipt so you have proof they received it. I also included a cover letter specifically requesting an acknowledgment. If you don't hear anything after about 30 days, start calling to confirm they have your case in the system. This is where having that certified mail receipt becomes crucial - you can reference the delivery confirmation number.
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Isabella Santos
Just went through this exact thing with Form 8300 penalties for my pawn shop. My advice - don't try to handle this yourself! The audit reconsideration process for these specific penalties is super technical. I hired a tax attorney who specializes in information reporting penalties (not one of those TV ad tax relief companies) and she got my penalties reduced from $42,000 to $4,500. Her fee was $3,000 so definitely worth it. The key was she knew exactly what documentation would constitute "reasonable cause" for my specific situation. The whole process took about 6 months from start to finish. Also, she advised me NOT to pay the penalties while we were fighting them, which turned out to be the right call in my case.
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Ravi Sharma
ā¢Any chance you could share what kind of documentation worked for establishing "reasonable cause"? I'm in a similar situation but can't afford an attorney right now.
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