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Has anyone successfully used the IRS's "Get Transcript" online to get copies of previously filed 8606 forms? I need to see what I submitted for the last few years to fix my backdoor Roth basis calculations.

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Ava Williams

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Yep! I used the Get Transcript tool on irs.gov last month. You need to request the "Tax Return Transcript" option, not the account transcript. It shows the filed 8606 information though sometimes it's just the line entries, not the actual form image. Was enough for me to see where I messed up my basis calculations.

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Perfect, thanks! Just tried it and was able to get my transcripts. You're right - it shows the numbers but not the actual form. Still helpful though - I can see I definitely carried forward the wrong basis amount for my backdoor Roth in 2021. Ugh, time to fix it.

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Raj Gupta

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For anyone else filing corrected 8606 forms for their backdoor Roth IRA: I just went through this process and prepared a simple cover letter to attach to my corrected forms that read: "Please find enclosed corrected Forms 8606 for tax years 2020, 2021, and 2022. These corrected forms properly reflect the basis of non-deductible IRA contributions and Roth conversions that were made in each year. The original forms contained calculation errors but the corrections do not change my tax liability for any year." The IRS processed them without issue and I received confirmation letters about 8 weeks later.

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Dana Doyle

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Just FYI - the IRS has a specific form for self-employment income called Schedule C. All your handyman and DJ money goes there. You'll pay regular income tax PLUS self-employment tax (about 15.3%) on that income. But the good news is you can deduct expenses like: - Tools and equipment - Mileage driving to jobs (58.5 cents per mile) - Portion of phone bill used for business - Advertising costs - Software or subscriptions related to your work - Office supplies For your roommate situation, that's different - look up "Schedule E" for rental income. Keep good records of EVERYTHING. I use a simple spreadsheet and take pictures of receipts with my phone. Start organizing now before tax season and you'll thank yourself later!

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Liam Duke

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Do you need to make quarterly payments for side hustle income? I heard somewhere that you need to if you'll owe more than $1,000 at tax time, but not sure if that's true.

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Dana Doyle

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Yes, that $1,000 threshold is correct. If you expect to owe more than $1,000 in taxes when you file your return, you should make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid an underpayment penalty. For side hustles, a good rule of thumb is to set aside about 30% of your profit for taxes (covers both income tax and self-employment tax for most people). You can use Form 1040-ES to calculate and pay your quarterly taxes. The due dates are April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. Better to start paying quarterly now than get hit with a big bill plus penalties!

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Manny Lark

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I was in your EXACT situation last year with my woodworking side hustle! The thing that saved me was keeping everything super organized. I created a separate checking account JUST for side business stuff - it helps so much come tax time! Also, get a simple expense tracking app to record everything. For cash, I immediately write it down in my phone notes with the date and amount. Then once a week I move that info to a spreadsheet. The IRS doesn't mess around with unreported income. My sister tried to hide her Etsy income and got hit with a massive audit and penalties. Not worth the stress!!

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TommyKapitz

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Thanks for the tip about the separate account! That actually makes a lot of sense. Do you have a recommendation for a good expense tracking app that's simple to use? I'm not the most tech-savvy person tbh.

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Manny Lark

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I use QuickBooks Self-Employed and it's pretty straightforward even for non-tech people. It links to your bank accounts and credit cards, then lets you swipe expenses left or right to categorize them as business or personal. The basic version is like $7/month which is totally worth it for the headache it saves. If you want something free, even the basic version of Mint can work if you create tags for your different side hustles. But honestly, whatever you choose, the most important thing is consistency - spend 5 minutes every few days categorizing transactions while they're fresh in your memory!

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Quick question - does anyone know if there's any sort of "statute of limitations" on fixing excess Roth IRA contributions? My parents might be in a similar situation from 2020 contributions and I'm wondering if it's too late to fix it without major penalties.

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ThunderBolt7

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From what I understand, there's no statute of limitations on the 6% excess contribution penalty. It continues to apply each year until you either withdraw the excess contribution or use up unused contribution room in a later year (if you start having earned income again). The sooner you fix it, the fewer years you'll pay the penalty. For a 2020 excess contribution that's still in the account, they'd potentially owe the 6% penalty for 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 by now.

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Thanks for the info. That's really helpful. So basically they're accumulating a 6% penalty every single year this isn't fixed? That definitely means we need to address this ASAP rather than ignore it. Would they need to file amended returns for all those previous years to pay the penalties, or is there some streamlined process for handling this?

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For anyone dealing with excess contribution issues, I used FreeTaxUSA to file my Form 5329 separately from my regular tax return. Way cheaper than going through a tax pro for what's ultimately a fairly simple form once you understand what numbers go where.

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Mei Chen

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Did you have to create a whole new tax return just to file the 5329? Or is there a way to file just that form by itself? I don't want to redo my entire 2022 return just to add this form.

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Amina Toure

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Have you tried using the IRS Withholding Estimator? It's free and pretty accurate. Just Google "IRS Withholding Estimator" and it'll be the first result. I found it helpful when I started my new job. Make sure you have your most recent pay stub handy and know roughly what your total income will be for the year. It'll tell you if you're on track or if you need to submit a new W-4. Much better than guessing!

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I just tried this and it says I'm almost perfectly on track for my withholding! According to the estimator, I'll get a small refund of about $120 if nothing changes with my income for the rest of the year. That's honestly a relief. Thanks for the suggestion - this was super helpful and easy to use. I've bookmarked it to check again if my income changes!

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Oliver Weber

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Ok but am I the only one who WANTS a big refund? Everyone's always like "don't give the government an interest-free loan" but honestly having that forced savings that comes back as a lump sum helps me buy big things I need. I intentionally have extra withheld from each check and I'm happy about it.

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That's actually a really bad financial strategy. You could be putting that extra money into a high-yield savings account or investing it throughout the year. Even a basic savings account is paying 3-4% interest right now. Why give up that free money?

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Naila Gordon

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Based on my experience, RETR almost always stands for retirement contributions. This is usually money that went into a 401k or similar plan. Good news is you don't need to report this separately - it's just informational. What matters most is what's in Box 1 (wages), Box 2 (federal tax withheld), and the other main boxes. Box 14 items are usually just there to give you extra detail. Tax Act probably gets confused because Box 14 can contain literally anything the employer wants to put there - there's no standardized set of codes, so the software doesn't know what to do with it.

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Cynthia Love

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So if I'm using Tax Act and it asks me about this Box 14 item, can I just skip it completely? Or do I need to tell the software to ignore it somehow?

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Naila Gordon

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You can generally skip the Box 14 items in Tax Act when prompted. If the software specifically asks if you want to include it, select "No" or "Skip" (whatever option it gives you to not include it). If Tax Act forces you to categorize it, you can usually select something like "Other" and then indicate it's informational only. The key is to avoid having it added as additional income or a deduction since it's almost certainly already accounted for in your wages in Box 1.

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Has anyone noticed if RETR affects your Social Security and Medicare taxes at all? My amount in Box 14 seems pretty high ($8,200) and I'm wondering if it impacts anything besides just federal income tax.

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Rosie Harper

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Your social security and medicare taxes are calculated based on your Box 3 and Box 5 wages, not Box 14 amounts. If RETR is retirement contributions, they might reduce your Box 1 wages (federal taxable income) but not necessarily your Social Security and Medicare wage bases. So check if your Box 3 and Box 5 amounts are higher than Box 1. If they are, it means your retirement contributions were excluded from income tax but still subject to FICA taxes, which is common for traditional 401k contributions.

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