Does that Form 8822 need to be filed before or after submitting your tax return? I already filed with TurboTax but now I'm worried about this address issue.

You can file Form 8822 anytime - before, after, or completely separate from your tax return. It's basically just a standalone address update for the IRS's records. If you've already filed your return with your new address, filing Form 8822 afterward is still a good idea because it ensures the address change is processed across all IRS systems. Sometimes the address update from a tax return doesn't propagate to every IRS department.

YES! This happened to me too! I had to go back through each section carefully. Turns out TurboTax pulls your address from last year automatically, but then there's a separate section where you need to update your "current address" if you've moved. Super confusing interface. Check the personal info section again and make sure you updated both places.

Thanks for all these options! I just checked and I do have a refund coming, so I'm guessing I wouldn't have been penalized anyway? Also, what's the tax transcript and how would that help? Never heard of that before.

Yes, if you're getting a refund, you wouldn't face failure-to-file penalties even if the extension wasn't properly filed. The IRS only issues penalties when you owe them money, not when they owe you. A tax transcript is a document from the IRS that shows key information from your tax record, including extensions filed, payments made, and return status. You can request one for free through the IRS website. For your situation, the "account transcript" would show if an extension was filed. It's basically a timeline of all transactions and status changes related to your tax account for a specific year.

Omg I didn't even think about state taxes! I'm in California - does anyone know if they automatically extend when federal is extended?

Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to hear from someone in a similar situation. Did you have to fill out any special forms to document the support calculation, or did you just keep your own records in case of an audit?

We didn't have to submit any special forms with our tax return specifically for the support calculation. Our tax preparer just had us keep good documentation (basically a spreadsheet showing our household expenses and what portion went to our daughter). The most important thing was making sure our daughter's tax return properly indicated she could be claimed as a dependent on someone else's return. That way the systems don't flag a conflict. Keep records of major expenses you pay for your daughter in case you ever get questioned, but in our experience, this was a pretty straightforward situation once we understood the support test isn't about income but about who's paying for living expenses.

The kiddie tax only applies to unearned income (interest, dividends, capital gains, etc.), not earned income from actual work. Since OP's child is earning money from modeling/commercial work, that's considered earned income and would be taxed at the child's own rate, not the parents' rate.

This hobby vs business distinction is worrying me now. I definitely intend to make a profit, but with only $360 in income for 2024 and thousands in expenses, will the IRS see this as a legitimate business? We had the property listed on several rental sites but just had bad timing with the market in our area.

Don't worry too much - the IRS looks at your intent and efforts, not just your initial results. Save copies of your rental listings, any advertising you did, and documentation of your efforts to rent the property. This shows you were genuinely trying to operate as a business. The IRS generally allows new businesses some time to become profitable. They use a guideline that if you show a profit in 3 out of 5 consecutive years, they'll presume you have a profit motive. Your first year being mostly preparation is very common in real estate. Just make sure you keep excellent records of all expenses and your efforts to rent the property. This documentation will be crucial if you're ever questioned about your business intent.

I had a similar situation last year. You need to allocate expenses based on both time and usage. For example, if your property was available for rent for 3 months out of the year, you'd allocate 25% of annual expenses like insurance, property taxes, etc. to the rental activity. Then within those 3 months, if it was only actually rented for 10 days, you need to keep personal use vs. rental use straight too. Publication 527 has worksheets for this. It gets complicated fast!

This is interesting! Do you know if there's any way to calculate exactly how much extra to withhold from my day job to cover my side business? I make about $65k at my regular job and maybe $15k from my online store.

You can use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website to calculate this pretty accurately. Enter both your W-2 income and your estimated business profit, and it will tell you how to adjust your W-4. For your specific situation with $65k from your job and $15k from your business, you'd probably need to withhold an extra $3,000-4,000 annually from your day job, which breaks down to about $250-350 extra per month depending on your other deductions and credits. This covers both the income tax and self-employment tax on that $15k. Just make sure to update your calculations if your business income changes significantly!

Oh good point. I'm in California and they definitely want their quarterly payments too. Anyone know a good resource for figuring out sales tax requirements across different states? My online shop ships to like 30 different states.