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EEHIC: Can I claim full credit when HVAC installer was murdered before completion?

So I'm dealing with a really bizarre and unfortunate situation with my Energy Efficient Home Improvement Credit. I hired a local HVAC contractor (one-man business) to install a new Carrier 21 SEER heat pump system at my house. He delivered all the equipment and had it positioned, but before he could finish the installation, he was tragically murdered. This has turned into a whole legal mess, as charges have been filed against someone, but the case is still ongoing. We were left without air conditioning for almost 5 weeks in the middle of the southern summer heat wave trying to locate him (before finding out what happened). Eventually, we had to hire another contractor to come finish the installation, who we paid about $3,500 for the labor to complete everything. The original quote for the entire job was $10,800, but we hadn't paid the original installer anything yet. I'm assuming we'll eventually have to pay his estate for the equipment once the legal situation gets resolved, but possibly not the full amount since we were left hanging and had to pay someone else to finish. My questions about the EEHIC tax credit: 1. Can I claim the full $10,800 on this year's taxes even though I haven't actually paid the original contractor yet due to his estate being tied up in this murder investigation? 2. If I can only claim what I've paid so far ($3,500), can I claim the rest next year when I eventually pay his estate? 3. Should I just claim the $3,500 now and then amend my 2023 return later once everything is paid? 4. Can I claim both the heat pump credit ($2,000 max) AND the air conditioner credit ($600 max) since this was a complete system with heat pump and emergency heat strips? I know this is a really unusual situation. Any advice would be appreciated.

AstroAce

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I hate to be morbid, but this might create another complication - did the contractor have insurance? If so, and if there's an insurance payout, the amount you'd legally owe the estate might be reduced. I went through something similar (contractor had medical emergency, not murder) and their business insurance covered part of what we would have owed, reducing our final payment. This affected what we could claim for the energy credit since we didn't actually pay the full original amount.

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Nia Thompson

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That's a good point I hadn't considered. I have no idea if he had insurance, but I'll definitely look into that. The police haven't given us much information about his business affairs due to the ongoing investigation. I'm guessing we'll learn more once the criminal case progresses and the estate gets settled. Would business insurance typically cover something like this?

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AstroAce

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Most legitimate HVAC contractors carry some form of business insurance that might cover situations where they can't complete contracted work. It varies widely by policy, but many include provisions for "business interruption" or "contract fulfillment" that could apply here. The estate administrator would be the one handling these claims once appointed by the court. I'd recommend documenting everything meticulously - your original contract, what was completed, what you paid to the second contractor, etc. This will be important not just for the tax credit but also for any future discussions with the estate. In my situation, the insurance company actually contacted us directly once a claim was filed, but that might take time given the circumstances.

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Side issue here - but be prepared for delays with your credit. I submitted a perfectly valid EEHIC claim for my heat pump installation last year and got a letter 6 months later from the IRS requesting additional documentation. Apparently they've been scrutinizing these energy credits more closely. Make sure you keep ALL receipts, manufacturer certifications showing the SEER rating, contractor information, and proof of payments.

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Jamal Brown

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100% this. I got audited specifically on my EEHIC claim last year. They wanted the AHRI certificate showing the exact efficiency ratings, proof the contractor was certified, and itemized invoices showing what portion was for equipment vs labor. The equipment manufacturer specs were super important - they rejected my first submission because it didn't clearly show the SEER2 rating.

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Carmen Diaz

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Just to add another perspective - make sure you're paying yourself a "reasonable salary" as an S-corp owner. This is the #1 thing the IRS looks at with S-corps. If your business made $100k but you only paid yourself $20k in salary (with the rest as distributions), that's a red flag. The IRS wants their FICA taxes, and if they think you're underreporting your salary to avoid them, that can trigger an audit. Especially if you're getting refunds, they may look more closely at your filings.

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What's considered "reasonable" tho? Is there like a percentage of business income that's the standard? I've heard everything from 30% to 60% of profits should be salary.

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Carmen Diaz

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There's no fixed percentage that's automatically considered "reasonable" - it depends on your industry, role, qualifications, and what similar positions would pay in your area. A good starting point is to research what someone would earn doing your job in your location if they weren't the owner. Sites like Bureau of Labor Statistics or industry salary surveys can help establish this baseline. Some tax professionals suggest that anything less than 40-50% of your business profits as salary might raise eyebrows, but it really depends on your specific situation.

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AstroAce

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Has anyone here used both TurboTax and H&R Block for S-corp returns? I'm having similar issues with TurboTax and wondering if H&R Block handles single-member LLC S-corps better. The TurboTax interface seems super confusing for this specific situation.

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I switched from TurboTax to H&R Block last yr for my s-corp and it was WAY better. TurboTax kept giving me errors about my 941 payments but H&R Block had a specific section for SMLLC S-corps. The questions were clearer and it properly showed how the salary and distributions flow between the 1120S and 1040.

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Just wanted to add some clarity about the lookback rule that might help. This provision was part of the Taxpayer Certainty and Disaster Tax Relief Act, and for 2021 taxes, you can choose to use your 2019 earned income to calculate your EITC if that gives you a larger credit. Remember these key points: 1. Unemployment benefits do NOT count as earned income for EITC 2. You need to manually enter your 2019 earned income in your tax software 3. If you had $0 earned income in 2021, the lookback can be hugely beneficial 4. This was specifically designed to help people who lost work during COVID

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Would this still apply for 2022 taxes? I was unemployed for most of 2021 but also for part of 2022, so wondering if I can use this for next year's filing too.

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Unfortunately, the lookback provision was only available for tax years 2020 and 2021 as a temporary COVID relief measure. For your 2022 taxes (which you'll file in 2023), you'll need to use your actual 2022 earned income to calculate your EITC. If you're concerned about a lower EITC for 2022, focus on documenting all eligible earned income you did have during the year, and look into other credits you might qualify for like the Child Tax Credit if you have dependents.

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Diez Ellis

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Has anyone used TurboTax for the lookback rule? I'm having the same issue but with TurboTax instead of TaxAct. Can't figure out where to enter my 2019 income!

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In TurboTax, you need to go to the Deductions & Credits section, then look for "Income that qualifies for certain credits." There should be a question about whether you want to use your 2019 earned income. It's easy to miss if you're clicking through quickly!

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Tax Question: Why did I claim 0 allowances with no extra withholdings but still got a tiny refund in 2025?

So I've got this weird tax situation that's driving me crazy, and nobody seems to have a real answer. Really hoping someone here can shed some light! My husband and I both work for the same retail chain. We set up our W-4 forms exactly the same way - both claiming 0 for federal and state taxes, 0 allowances, and we don't have any extra withholdings from our weekly checks. We have different positions though. I make around $34,000 annually, while he earns about $25,500. Here's where it gets strange: He just filed his taxes and got a pretty decent federal refund of like $1,350 and about $120 state refund. This is pretty much what he gets every year. I filed mine and only got back $11 federal and $105 state! In previous years when I worked at a different company (earning similar money, about $26,000), I always got refunds around $950-$1,200. I'm completely confused why my refund is practically nothing when we claim the exact same on our W-4s! Some people told me that the company decides how much they withhold and that I'd need to request an extra $25 per paycheck in withholdings to get a normal refund. But that feels like I'm just creating a forced savings account where I loan the government my money interest-free just to get a refund. My husband doesn't do any extra withholding and still gets a good refund every year. Does anyone know what could be causing this difference? Is there something about our tax situation I'm missing?

One thing nobody has mentioned is that the new W-4 form (redesigned in 2020) doesn't use allowances anymore. If you're still thinking in terms of "claiming 0" that suggests you might be using outdated terminology or your employer might be using an older system. The current W-4 uses a different approach with various steps for income adjustments, deductions, and credits. When was the last time you actually filled out a W-4? Your withholding settings might be based on old forms that were converted to the new system, which could explain some discrepancies.

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Jamal Carter

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We both updated our W-4s in January 2024, but you're right - the form doesn't have allowances anymore. I guess I was using the old terminology! When we filled them out, we both selected "single" filing status (even though we're married) and didn't check the box for multiple jobs or put any additional amounts. Basically, we tried to have the maximum withheld. Should we be filling them out differently?

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Ah, that explains a lot! By both selecting "single" filing status when you're actually married, you're creating an artificial situation that doesn't match your actual tax filing status. This is a common approach people use to increase withholding, but it can have inconsistent results. A better approach would be to select your actual filing status of "Married" and then use Step 4(c) to specify an additional withholding amount if you want more taken out. The IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website that can help you determine the exact amount to withhold for your desired refund size.

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Your company's payroll system might be using different pay frequencies for different departments, which affects withholding calculations. I had this exact issue! My husband was paid bi-weekly (26 paychecks per year) while I was technically semi-monthly (24 paychecks per year) even though we worked at the same company. This small difference caused our withholding calculations to be different despite identical W-4 settings. Check your pay stubs and see if there's any difference in how often you're paid or how your pay periods are defined. This tiny detail caused a $900 difference in our refunds one year!

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Ava Thompson

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This is actually a really good point! My spouse and I had this exact situation - same company, same W-4 settings, but I was salary (semi-monthly) and she was hourly (bi-weekly). The tax withholding formulas are different for these pay schedules!

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Natalie Wang

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Former tax preparer here. Make sure you're also tracking other expenses related to these rentals that are separate from the basic rental fee - gas, tolls, parking fees, etc. Those all factor into your actual expenses and can be deducted based on business use percentage too. Also! If you didn't keep perfect records this year, start fresh now for next year. Get a mileage tracking app that lets you categorize trips. Most of my clients who rent vehicles for business use find that actual expenses give them a bigger deduction than standard mileage, but you need the documentation to back it up.

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Caden Nguyen

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What about insurance? The rental companies always try to sell that additional coverage. Is that deductible as part of the rental expense if I use the actual expense method?

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Natalie Wang

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Yes, the additional insurance or coverage options you purchase from rental companies would be considered part of your actual rental expenses, so they would be deductible based on your business-use percentage for that specific rental period. Some business owners overlook this, but if you consistently purchase the additional coverage, it can add up to a significant deduction over the course of a year with weekly rentals. Just make sure the insurance expense is clearly itemized on your rental receipts so it's properly documented.

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Noah Torres

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Has anyone considered the luxury auto limits for these deductions? I'm wondering if renting different cars each week somehow avoids those limits since each vehicle is only used short-term?

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Avery Flores

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The luxury auto limits still apply to rentals but in a different way. Since you're deducting actual expenses rather than depreciation, you don't run into the same depreciation caps. However, the IRS can still question whether extravagant or luxury vehicle rentals are "ordinary and necessary" business expenses. In your case, since you mentioned you're renting basic economy cars, this shouldn't be an issue. The IRS is mainly concerned with preventing businesses from fully deducting high-end luxury vehicles. Using standard economy rentals for legitimate business purposes shouldn't trigger any special limitations beyond the normal business-use percentage rules.

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