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For finding a good accountant, I highly recommend checking with your local Chamber of Commerce. I found my current accountant through them, and she has experience with clients who have varied income sources including crypto. One thing to keep in mind - you need both past organization AND future systems. Ask any professional you hire about setting up ongoing bookkeeping processes so you're not in this same situation next year. My accountant set me up with QuickBooks Self-Employed which automatically categorizes most of my transactions and even tracks mileage. For the crypto specifically, look for someone who has taken continuing education in this area, as tax rules for crypto continue to evolve. Not all accountants stay current on this.
Really appreciate the idea about the Chamber of Commerce - never would have thought of that! And good point about setting up systems for the future. Do you find QuickBooks easy to use for someone who's not naturally organized?
QuickBooks Self-Employed is pretty user-friendly, even for the organizationally-challenged! It connects to your bank accounts and payment apps, then automatically sorts transactions. You just need to review them occasionally to make corrections. The mobile app is super convenient - you can snap pictures of receipts on the go, and it has automatic mileage tracking. My accountant did an hour-long setup session with me to customize categories for my specific business, which made a huge difference. The key is consistent small efforts rather than trying to sort everything at tax time.
Just want to add that the National Association of Tax Professionals (NATP) has a directory where you can search for tax preparers with specific expertise. That's how I found someone who understands crypto taxation when I started mining Ethereum. And definitely get someone ASAP for 2023 taxes rather than waiting. A good accountant can still file an extension for you if needed, which gives more time to file (though not more time to pay if you owe). Better to start the relationship now than wait until next year.
One thing no one's mentioned yet - if the land you sold was held for LESS than a year, you'll pay short-term capital gains rates, which are the same as ordinary income rates. Those can be much higher than the 15% long-term rate. Also, depending on your income level, you might also have to pay the 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax on top of your capital gains tax if your modified adjusted gross income exceeds certain thresholds ($200,000 for single, $250,000 for married filing jointly). Make sure you're accounting for all of this in your tax planning!
What if you sell land that was gifted to you? My parents gave me some property a few years back and I'm thinking about selling. Would I use their purchase price as my basis or something else?
With gifted property, you generally take the donor's basis (what your parents paid originally) as your basis. This is different from inherited property, which gets a stepped-up basis to fair market value at the time of death. However, there's a special rule if the fair market value at the time of the gift was LESS than the donor's basis and you sell at a loss. In that case, you use the fair market value at time of gift to calculate the loss. It's a bit complicated, but Publication 551 from the IRS explains this in detail. Also keep in mind that if your parents paid gift tax when they gave you the property, you might be able to add some of that gift tax to your basis, potentially reducing your gain when you sell.
Dont forget to check if your state has different capital gains rates than federal! I got burned on this last year - my state treats all capital gains as ordinary income so I ended up paying a higher rate than I expected.
9 My situation was a bit different but might be relevant - I found out I owed state taxes because my employer mistakenly used the wrong state withholding tables after I moved. Check your last paystubs from each job and look at the state code on the withholding line. It's possible one of your employers kept withholding for the wrong state after you moved, which would definitely cause you to owe.
1 Thanks for this suggestion! I just checked my paystubs and you're absolutely right - my first employer continued to withhold for Colorado even after I moved to Washington. No wonder I owe so much! Is there any way to fix this after the fact or am I just stuck paying what I owe now?
9 Unfortunately, you generally can't fix it after the tax year has ended - you'll need to pay what you owe now. But you should immediately contact your payroll department to correct it for this year so you don't have the same problem next tax season. For this year's taxes, make sure you're filing as a part-year resident for Colorado and indicating the correct dates you lived in each state. That will at least ensure you're only paying Colorado tax on income earned while you were actually living there.
16 Does anyone know if state tax reciprocity agreements would help in this situation? I've heard some states have agreements not to tax the same income twice.
18 Colorado and Washington don't have a reciprocity agreement, but that's actually not relevant in this case anyway. Reciprocity agreements typically apply to people who live in one state but work in another. Since Washington has no income tax, there's no double taxation issue here. The problem is more about proper withholding and filing correctly as a part-year resident. The OP needs to file a part-year return for Colorado, reporting income earned while a resident there (plus any Colorado-sourced income after moving).
Another option nobody's mentioned yet - you could apply the excess contribution to a future year if you're planning to contribute less than the max. For example, if you're eligible to contribute to a Roth in 2024 but won't max it out, you could apply the excess from 2022 toward your 2024 contribution limit. You'd still pay the 6% penalty for 2022 and 2023, but it might be easier than dealing with withdrawal or recharacterization if your plan is to keep contributing anyway.
That's an interesting option I hadn't thought about. Would I still need to file anything special for 2022 and 2023 to show that I'm now applying that excess to 2024? Or does just paying the penalty take care of it?
You would need to file Form 5329 for tax years 2022 and 2023 to pay the 6% excise tax for each of those years. Then when you do your 2024 taxes, you would indicate that you're applying prior year excess contributions to your 2024 contribution limit. The important thing is that you don't make a full contribution for 2024 if you're applying the excess from 2022. For example, if the 2024 limit is $7,000 and you're applying $4,630 from 2022, you would only be able to contribute an additional $2,370 for 2024. It's a good option if you're short on cash but still want to maintain your retirement savings.
Another thing to consider - the contribution limits for Roth IRAs increase sometimes. For 2024, the limit is $7,000 for those under 50. Depending on your expected income this year, that might affect your decision about how to handle the excess.
The Roth income limits also increased for 2024. For single filers, the phaseout range is now $146,000-$161,000. So if OP's income is similar to 2022 (around $140k), they might be fully eligible this year without any phaseout.
Freya Thomsen
Make sure you're not confusing the American Opportunity Credit with the Lifetime Learning Credit. They have different rules and the AOTC is generally more valuable (up to $2,500 vs $2,000 for LLC) but has different eligibility requirements. If you're an undergraduate in your first four years, AOTC is usually better. Also, check if your parents might be claiming you as a dependent - only one of you can claim the education credit, and it's usually more beneficial for the person with higher income to claim it (up to the phaseout limits).
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Natasha Volkova
ā¢I'm actually in graduate school, so I'm past the 4-year limit for AOTC. And I file independently, so no worries about the dependent situation. Would the loan disbursement date still be the determining factor for the LLC just like it is for AOTC?
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Freya Thomsen
ā¢Yes, the same timing rules apply to both the LLC and AOTC - it's when the payment is made to the institution that matters. For loan proceeds, that's the disbursement date to the school. Graduate school definitely limits you to the Lifetime Learning Credit, but at least you can claim that for an unlimited number of years. One other thing to watch for: make sure you're only claiming tuition and required fees, not room and board or other expenses, as qualified education expenses. The rules are pretty strict about what qualifies.
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Omar Fawaz
Anyone use TurboTax for this? I'm trying to figure out where to enter qualified education expenses that aren't on my 1098-T.
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Chloe Martin
ā¢In TurboTax, when you get to the education section, there's a screen that asks about your 1098-T. After you enter the 1098-T info, it will ask if you had additional qualified expenses not reported on the form. That's where you can add the extra qualified expenses. Just make sure you have documentation to back it up!
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