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To answer your original question specifically: Yes, your Schedule C loss will offset your W-2 income. The IRS calls this a "net operating loss" and it flows through to your 1040. Since you built the computer piece by piece, the simplest approach is to treat the entire build as a single business asset. Just make sure you're tracking business vs. personal use carefully. If you use it 80% for business and 20% for personal, you can only deduct 80% of the costs.
Thanks, this is exactly what I needed to know! For tracking business vs personal use, would a simple log be sufficient or do I need something more formal? I probably use it about 85% for the Amazon business and 15% for personal browsing.
A simple log would work fine, but be consistent with it. I recommend creating a spreadsheet where you track hours of use and categorize them as business or personal. Do this for a representative time period (at least a few weeks) to establish your usage pattern. The key is having something contemporaneous - meaning you're tracking it as you go, not trying to recreate it later if you get audited. Also take screenshots of your work on the computer for the business as additional evidence. The IRS is particularly interested in seeing that high-cost assets claimed as business expenses are actually being used for business purposes.
Just a heads up - if you show losses for multiple years in a row, the IRS might classify your business as a hobby, which would mean you couldn't use the losses to offset your W-2 income. Make sure you can demonstrate that you're running this with the intent to make a profit.
Another option worth considering is donating the stock to charity if it's not worth much to you. This way you: 1) Get rid of the annual 1099-DIV 2) May get a tax deduction for the charitable contribution 3) Avoid capital gains tax completely 4) Help a cause you care about Most established charities have simple processes for accepting stock donations. Just call them and they'll walk you through it!
Would this work even if the stock is only worth like $200? Seems like a lot of hassle for the charity for such a small amount. And how do you claim the deduction - is it complicated to do on your taxes?
Yes, it works even for smaller amounts! Many charities are set up to handle stock donations of all sizes. While some very small local organizations might not have the infrastructure, most medium to large charities definitely do. For claiming the deduction, it's straightforward if you itemize deductions on Schedule A. You'll get a receipt from the charity showing the donation value (usually the market value on the transfer date). If the stock is worth more than $500, you'll also need to fill out Form 8283, but the form isn't particularly complicated. For very small donations, make sure the tax benefit of itemizing would exceed the standard deduction, otherwise there's no additional tax advantage.
I went through this last year! Found out my shares were with Computershare (they handle a lot of these direct stock plans). I called them, verified my identity, and just told them I wanted to sell. They sent me a form, I signed it and sent it back, and got a check about 2 weeks later. Easy peasy. Just make sure to keep the statement showing how much you sold it for - you'll need that for next year's taxes. But trust me, dealing with a one-time sale is WAY simpler than getting those 1099-DIVs every year for tiny amounts.
This happened to me last year. I ended up having to file an amended return, but I also sent a complaint to the IRS through Form 3949-A. I never heard anything back about the complaint, but it felt good to at least report it. One thing to consider - if the amount on the 1099-DIV is small (under $50-100), you might not need to amend. The IRS has a threshold for amendments, though they don't publish the exact amount. I've heard CPAs say that small amounts sometimes aren't worth the hassle.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Do you remember how long the amended return process took? And did you face any penalties from the IRS?
The amended return took about 16 weeks to process from when I mailed it - this was last year when they still had significant backlogs. They've supposedly improved processing times since then, but plan for at least 8-12 weeks. For paper returns, it's always slower. I didn't end up facing any penalties because I included a letter explaining that I received the 1099-DIV after the filing deadline. I did have to pay a small amount of interest on the additional tax (about $3 for a $200 tax difference), but the IRS waived the late payment penalty after I explained the situation. Make sure you include a clear explanation with your amendment!
Has anyone ever had any luck getting a company to pay for the cost of filing an amended return? It seems unfair that their mistake becomes our problem and expense!
For your vintage sales you might also qualify for what's called "Section 1244 Stock Loss" treatment depending on how you've structured things. When I was selling collectibles I found it helpful to keep a simple notebook with me so I could jot down what I paid right after buying things. Just noting the date, brief item description, and price paid. You might also want to take photos of items when you purchase them with any price tags visible. Even starting this practice now will help you next year. The tax code doesn't expect perfect documentation for every small purchase, but showing you have a systematic approach to tracking helps tremendously.
Thanks for the notebook tip - that's a great idea! I'll definitely start doing that. But what's this Section 1244 thing you mentioned? Is that something that would apply to my situation with just selling stuff online as a side thing?
I misspoke about Section 1244 - that's actually for losses on small business stock and wouldn't apply here. What I meant was that resellers can use the "Cost of Goods Sold" section on Schedule C to account for your inventory costs. The notebook method works great for casual sellers. I recommend categorizing items by type and condition, which helps establish a pattern. For example, "vintage t-shirts - good condition - $3-5 each" or "collectible figurines - mint condition - $10-15 each." This creates a reasonable framework for your estimates. Starting this practice now will make next year's taxes much easier, and having some documentation is always better than none.
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting 1099-K for their casual sales? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if it walks you through estimating costs properly or if I need something more specialized.
TurboTax works ok for this but isn't great. It asks for cost of goods sold as a total number rather than helping you itemize. I found FreeTaxUSA actually handled my small eBay business better and asked more relevant questions about inventory and costs. Plus it's way cheaper.
I used TurboTax last year for my Etsy 1099-K. It was decent but I had to manually create my own spreadsheet for tracking cost of goods sold. It doesn't really help with estimating costs when you don't have receipts - you just enter your total estimate. If you're worried about documentation, you might want something more specialized or at least create your own tracking system alongside TurboTax.
Natasha Kuznetsova
Friendly reminder that if your girlfriend is expecting a refund, she should file ASAP! I procrastinated on filing my 2022 taxes until last year, and I missed out on almost $2000 in refunds because I crossed the 3-year deadline. Don't make the same mistake!
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Zainab Khalil
ā¢Oh crap, I had no idea there was a 3-year deadline on refunds! That's really good to know. Do you think we should use a tax service like Jackson Hewitt at this point or just try to do it ourselves with tax software?
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Natasha Kuznetsova
ā¢For a simple tax situation, tax software should work fine and save you money compared to Jackson Hewitt. Something like TurboTax or FreeTaxUSA can handle late filings easily. If her taxes are more complicated (self-employment, multiple income sources, investments, etc.), then a professional service might be worth the cost. They sometimes catch deductions or credits you might miss on your own. But for basic W-2 income, the software should be more than adequate and much cheaper.
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Javier Mendoza
Just want to add - if she's getting a refund, the government has literally been holding her money interest-free this whole time. File now and get that cash back in her pocket!
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Emma Thompson
ā¢Exactly! IRS is the worst bank ever... they take your money all year and don't even pay interest when they owe you a refund, but they sure charge interest when you owe them š
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