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These company rental services are exploiting a grey area rather than a complete loophole. The way it typically works is: 1. You pay the US company for "services" rather than directly selling to US customers 2. The US company invoices your customers and collects payment 3. The US company takes a percentage as their fee 4. They send the rest to you as payment for your "service" to them In theory, the US company should pay taxes on their fee income. YOU still need to pay taxes in your country on the money you receive. The problem? Many countries have tax treaties that might make this arrangement ineffective or even illegal depending on specifics. Plus, if the IRS determines you're the beneficial owner of the income, you could face serious penalties for not filing US returns.
What about VAT/sales tax collection though? That seems like a legitimate reason to use these services - handling all the state-by-state sales tax requirements in the US is a nightmare for foreign businesses.
Sales tax collection is indeed one of the few legitimate benefits these services can provide. The US sales tax system is notoriously complicated with different rules across 50 states plus local jurisdictions. Having a US entity handle that complexity can be valuable. However, there are specialized sales tax compliance services that can handle just this aspect without the problematic "company rental" structure. Services like Avalara or TaxJar can manage US sales tax compliance for foreign companies at a much lower cost than these rental arrangements. You'd still need to register for sales tax in relevant states, but these specialized services can handle the calculation, collection and filing without the questionable tax structure these rental companies use.
The whole concept reminds me of nominee directors and shareholders that are common in offshore structures. The difference is those arrangements at least acknowledge who the beneficial owner is with private agreements. These rental services seem intentionally vague about who actually owns what. If you're using one, make sure you understand: 1. Who legally owns the IP of what you're selling 2. Who's responsible if there's a lawsuit against the US entity 3. How your country's controlled foreign corporation rules apply 4. Whether this creates permanent establishment issues My company looked into this and decided it created way more risk than reward. We just bit the bullet and properly set up a US LLC with transparent tax treatment.
I've used FreeTaxUSA for the past 3 years and highly recommend it. Federal filing is completely free no matter your situation, and state is only $15. Never got hit with surprise upgrades or fees like with TurboTax. If your taxes are relatively simple with W-2 income, student loan interest and an IRA contribution, you'll have no problems. The interface isn't as flashy as TurboTax but it gets the job done and their support was actually really helpful when I had questions.
Do you feel like it finds all the possible deductions? That's my main worry - missing out on money I should be getting back.
It walks you through all possible deductions and credits with a comprehensive questionnaire just like the expensive services do. For someone in your situation, it asks about education expenses, student loan interest, retirement contributions, and other common deductions. I actually found FreeTaxUSA to be more transparent about explaining which deductions you qualify for compared to TurboTax. They don't hide information behind paywalls or try to upsell you constantly. Every time I've compared my results between multiple tax programs, the refund amount has been identical because ultimately it's all based on the same tax laws.
Tax preparer here! People think different software gives different refunds, but that's not how taxes work. Your refund is determined by tax law, not which program you use. The reason your friend got a bigger refund probably has NOTHING to do with the software and EVERYTHING to do with their specific tax situation (dependents, homeownership, education credits, etc.) That said, for free options in 2025: IRS Free File if you make under $73k, Cash App Taxes (completely free), FreeTaxUSA (free federal), or FileYourTaxes.com. They're all fine for simple returns with W-2 income like yours.
Something nobody mentioned yet - even if you don't HAVE to file because your income is below the threshold, you might WANT to file if you had any taxes withheld from your paychecks. Check your W-2 form box 2 to see if you had any federal income tax withheld. If you did, filing would get that money refunded to you! Also if you're eligible for refundable credits like the Earned Income Credit, you could actually get more money back than was withheld.
What's the difference between refundable and non-refundable credits? And can you really get more money back than you paid in taxes??
A refundable credit means you can receive the full amount of the credit even if it's more than what you owe in taxes. So yes, you can absolutely get back more money than you paid in! For example, the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) is refundable, so even if you owe zero taxes, you could still get money back if you qualify. Non-refundable credits can only reduce your tax liability to zero, but not below zero. So if you have $500 in tax liability and a $1,000 non-refundable credit, your tax bill goes to $0, but you don't get the extra $500 back.
this whole thread has me confused even more lol. so if i make $5,000 i dont pay taxes but if i make $20,000 i only pay taxes on the amount over the standard deduction???? the government makes this way too complicated on purpose i swear
Yes, that's exactly right! If you make $5,000, you'd take the standard deduction (about $14,600 for 2025) and your taxable income would be $0. If you make $20,000, you'd take the same standard deduction and only pay taxes on $5,400 ($20,000 - $14,600). It definitely can seem complicated, but the standard deduction actually simplifies things by ensuring people with lower incomes don't have to pay income tax. Think of it as the government saying "everyone gets their first $14,600 tax-free.
Has anyone used the IRS Direct File system for filing extensions? I heard they launched something new this year but not sure if it works for business extensions or just personal ones.
Direct File is only for simple personal returns right now, not for business returns or extensions. For your 7004, you'll need to either use commercial tax software, have your accountant e-file it, or mail in a paper form. I've been using FreeTaxUSA for my S Corp returns for years - they handle the 7004 extension filing too and it's pretty straightforward.
Is anyone else confused about COVID tax rules for S Corps? I feel like they keep changing and I don't know if any of the special provisions still apply for 2025 filing season.
Most COVID-related tax provisions have expired now. For the 2025 filing season (2024 tax year), things have largely returned to pre-pandemic rules. Employee Retention Credits ended, PPP loan forgiveness is old news, and the special sick leave credits are gone. The only lingering effects might be if you're still carrying losses forward from the pandemic years, but the special expanded rules for those have mostly reverted to normal too.
LilMama23
Another thing to consider is that you'll need to file Schedule SE for the self-employment tax on your 1099 income. That's an additional 15.3% on top of your regular income tax (though you do get to deduct half of that). Make sure your extra withholding is covering both the income tax AND self-employment tax!
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Miguel Hernรกndez
โขThanks for the reminder about Schedule SE! I actually did factor that in when I increased my withholding. I calculated roughly what I'd owe for both income tax and self-employment tax on the $18,500 and that's how I came up with the $320 per paycheck increase. Do you know if there's an easy way to check if I'm on track to meet the safe harbor requirement? I'm still a bit nervous about whether I've withheld enough.
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LilMama23
โขYou can use the IRS Withholding Estimator on their website. It will let you input both your W2 income/withholding and your 1099 income, then tell you if you're on track. Another simple approach is to look at your last paystub from 2024 and add up the federal withholding. Then add what you expect to have withheld for the rest of 2025 based on your current withholding rate. If that total is at least $16,300 (your tax from last year), you'll meet the safe harbor requirement.
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Dmitri Volkov
This whole quarterly estimated payment system is such a pain. I've been doing contract work for years and I just massively overwithhold from my W2 job so I don't have to deal with quarterly payments. My accountant says it's like giving the government an interest-free loan but honestly the peace of mind is worth it lol. Better than stressing about penalties.
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Gabrielle Dubois
โขBut aren't you basically losing money by giving the government an interest-free loan? You could be investing that money throughout the year instead. I set calendar reminders for estimated payments and it's not that bad.
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