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Random piece of advice from someone who went through this last year - even if you find a great CPA (which you should), take the time to learn QuickBooks or similar accounting software ASAP. My biggest regret was not setting up proper bookkeeping from day one of my S-Corp. Had to spend thousands getting everything organized retroactively. The S-Corp requirements for tracking expenses, managing payroll, and documenting assets are way more involved than a simple Schedule C. TurboTax alone definitely won't guide you through all the record-keeping needed throughout the year.
Any specific QuickBooks version you'd recommend? I've heard there are different options and I'm not sure which would be best for a small S-Corp with just me as the only employee right now.
I'd recommend QuickBooks Online Plus for S-Corps rather than the Self-Employed version. The Self-Employed version is great for simple sole proprietorships but doesn't handle the complexity of S-Corps well. The Plus version lets you track inventory if needed and has better reporting features for corporations. Most importantly, the Plus version connects with payroll services which you absolutely need as an S-Corp owner to properly pay yourself that required "reasonable salary" through W-2 payroll. I use QuickBooks Payroll alongside it which automatically calculates all the withholding and generates the quarterly 941s and annual W-2/W-3 forms. Trust me, trying to handle S-Corp payroll manually is a nightmare you don't want!
Just to give a different perspective - I tried doing my S-Corp taxes with TurboTax Business last year and deeply regretted it. Spent 20+ hours struggling through it, thought I'd done everything right, and still got notices from the IRS about missing forms 6 months later. Had to hire a CPA to fix everything anyway and ended up paying way more than if I'd just gone to them in the first place.
Same experience here. The business version of TurboTax doesn't explain the specific S-Corp requirements very well. I missed the whole thing about needing to file Form 1120-S by March 15th (NOT April 15th like personal returns) and got hit with penalties. Now I just hand everything to my accountant and it's worth every penny.
The TurboTax satisfaction guarantee is only for their desktop software. I used to work for Intuit (not in tax stuff tho). Online products have different terms. Its in their fine print but they dont make it obvious.
That should be illegal though, right? They can't advertise a guarantee prominently and then hide in fine print that it doesn't apply to their main product that most people use?
Has anyone tried Credit Karma Tax (now called Cash App Taxes)? It's completely free for federal and state filing. I switched from TurboTax last year and it was pretty good, handled my somewhat complicated return with no issues. No hidden fees or fake guarantees.
I used it this year! It's definitely more basic than TurboTax but gets the job done. The interface isn't as polished but I saved like $120 and my refund was exactly the same as what TurboTax calculated when I did a comparison before submitting. Only downside is they don't support some more complex tax situations like multi-state filing or foreign income.
The real hidden danger here is that without a 1099, your friend isn't getting credit for Social Security contributions. Even if he's reporting the income and paying self-employment taxes, without official documentation matching his reported earnings to his SSN, he might face challenges proving his income history when retirement time comes. This happened to my dad - decades of work where employers didn't properly report, and his Social Security benefits were much lower than they should have been.
Would it help if my friend kept his own detailed records of all payments? Like copies of check deposits, bank statements, etc? Or does the Social Security Administration only count "official" earnings reported on tax forms?
The Social Security Administration primarily relies on official earnings reported to them through the tax system. Your friend's own records might help in an audit situation, but they don't automatically get credited to his lifetime earnings record for Social Security purposes. That's why it's so important to either get the proper documentation from employers or file forms like the SS-8 (to determine worker classification) or 8919 (to report wages when your employer didn't issue a W-2). These create official records that the SSA will recognize when calculating future benefits.
There's another angle here nobody's mentioned - the employer could be illegally classifying an employee as an independent contractor to begin with. If your friend works regular hours, uses their equipment, follows their specific instructions on how to do the work, etc., he might legally be an employee regardless of what they're calling him. In that case, they owe a lot more than just a 1099 - they owe proper withholding, unemployment insurance, possibly benefits, etc.
This is exactly what happened to my wife. She was a "nanny" for a family for 3 years, no 1099s, paid in cash. After we talked to a tax person, turned out she should have been classified as a household employee all along! The family owed back employment taxes.
I've been a tax preparer for 15 years, and portable buildings are definitely in a gray area for Section 179. Here's what I tell my clients: 1) Document EVERYTHING about the portable nature - take photos showing it's not on a permanent foundation, keep all marketing materials describing it as "portable" 2) If it has a VIN or serial number, that strongly supports personal property treatment 3) Have a written business use policy showing it's 100% for business 4) If you ever sell the property with the building, the sale contract should list the building separately as personal property In audits I've handled, these documentation steps have successfully supported Section 179 treatment for portable structures. But remember, the burden of proof is always on you as the taxpayer.
Does the size of the portable building matter? I'm looking at something smaller (8x12) for my business. Would that have a better chance of qualifying for Section 179 since it's obviously more "portable" than larger structures?
Size can certainly help strengthen your case. An 8x12 structure is clearly more portable than larger buildings, making it easier to argue it's personal property rather than a real estate improvement. Smaller buildings are also more likely to be sold in the marketplace as movable units rather than permanent structures. However, the fundamental criteria remain the same regardless of size - lack of permanent foundation, designed to be relocated, not permanently affixed to land, etc. Even large portable buildings can qualify if they meet these criteria. The key is always proper documentation of the portable nature and 100% business use.
Jumping in late but wanted to share my experience - I section 179'd a 12x30 portable workshop last year and had no issues. My accountant said the key was that it came from a portable building dealer, had a serial number, and was sitting on blocks rather than a permanent foundation. We documented everything with photos and kept all the marketing materials showing it was designed to be moved. Good luck with your woodworking business!
Did you have to file any special forms beyond the regular Section 179 form? And did you classify it as "furniture and equipment" or something else in your tax software?
No special forms were needed beyond Form 4562 (Depreciation and Amortization) where you claim Section 179 deductions. I listed it as "Portable Workshop Structure" in the property description. In terms of classification, my accountant put it under "Machinery and Equipment" rather than anything related to real estate or buildings. She said this classification further reinforces that it's personal property eligible for Section 179 rather than a building improvement that would need to be depreciated over a longer period.
Diego Mendoza
Former mortgage processor here. The OMP (outstanding mortgage principal) on the 1098 is typically reported as of December 31st of the tax year. If your dad paid off the mortgage in August, but the payoff wasn't properly processed in their system, it might still show a balance. Another possibility is that there were some residual fees or interest that weren't included in the payoff amount he paid.
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GalaxyGlider
ā¢Thanks for your expertise! The thing is, we received a "paid in full" letter from the mortgage company in September, so I assumed everything was completely squared away. Could there still be fees even after receiving that kind of letter? And if so, would those fees have affected the house sale?
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Diego Mendoza
ā¢If you received a "paid in full" letter, then the loan was definitely satisfied from the mortgage company's perspective. The discrepancy is almost certainly just a reporting error in their system. The sale of the house wouldn't have been affected because the mortgage lien would have been removed from the property once the loan was paid off. That's why you were able to sell without issues. For tax purposes, you should keep that "paid in full" letter with your dad's tax documents as proof that the OMP figure on the 1098 is incorrect. The mortgage interest amount on the 1098 should still be accurate and can be deducted on his final return for the portion of the year before he passed away.
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Anastasia Popova
Has anyone dealt with reporting a deceased person's mortgage interest deduction on a partial year return? My brother passed away last spring and I'm trying to figure out if I need to prorate the mortgage interest or just take the full amount shown on his 1098.
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Malik Robinson
ā¢For a deceased taxpayer, you'd report all the mortgage interest paid during the period they were alive on their final tax return. You don't need to prorate the amount shown on the 1098 - just report whatever interest was actually paid before their death. The 1098 should show the total interest paid for the year up to the date of payoff or through December if the mortgage continued.
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