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The way I understand it, the issue isn't just about what's allowed, but what makes sense logically for your tax situation. If you're renting out 30% of your home for 30% of the year, that's actually only 9% of the total "home-year" (if that makes sense). So maybe you could justify putting 91% on Schedule A and 9% on Schedule E? Also, don't forget to factor in any other expenses related to the rental portion - utilities, insurance, repairs, etc. Those also need to be allocated properly between Schedule E and your personal expenses.
Thank you for this perspective. I'm a bit confused though - are you saying I should calculate it as 30% (portion of home) Ć 30% (portion of year) = 9%? I think the IRS wants me to allocate based on time for a partially rented primary residence, not a combination of time and space. But now I'm not sure!
Sorry for the confusion! I was thinking of a different scenario where you're renting out a portion of your home. If you're renting out the entire home for 30% of the year, then you would allocate 30% to Schedule E based on time alone. If you were renting out just one room or portion of your home, then you'd need to consider both the percentage of space and the time period. For example, if you rent out 25% of your home for the entire year, you'd allocate 25% to Schedule E.
Has anyone used TurboTax for this situation? Does it automatically split the mortgage interest between Schedule A and E correctly if you tell it you rented out your home part of the year?
I used TurboTax last year for a similar situation. It asks you specifically about the rental use period and then guides you through allocating expenses properly. It handled splitting my mortgage interest correctly between Schedule A and E based on the percentage I entered for rental use. It also reminded me about other expenses I could allocate to the rental portion like property taxes, insurance, utilities, maintenance, etc. Made the whole process much easier than trying to figure it out manually.
Can I just point out that your daughter can still be claimed as your dependent even if you can't use Form 8814 for her interest income? These are two separate issues. For dependent status, she does qualify under the student exception if she was a full-time student for 5 months, even if those months were January-May. She'll need to file her own return for the interest income, but you can still claim her as a dependent on your return if she meets the other tests (like you providing more than half her support for the year).
That's a really good point I hadn't considered! So even though she has to file her own return for the interest income, I can still claim her as a dependent if she meets the other tests? She definitely meets the support test - she just graduated last May and moved back home, and I'm covering most of her expenses while she's job hunting.
Exactly! The 5-month student rule applies to dependent status, and since she was a full-time student for at least 5 months during 2024, she can be your dependent if she meets the other tests. The support test is key - if you're providing more than half her total support for the year, you can claim her. Being a dependent will affect how she files her own return though - she'll need to check the box indicating someone else can claim her as a dependent, which affects her standard deduction for her own filing.
Has anyone actually calculated whether it's better to use Form 8814 even when you can? When I looked into this for my kid's investment income, I realized that putting their income on my return often results in higher overall taxes because it's taxed at my marginal rate instead of their lower rate.
This is a really good point. Last year my son had about $1,800 in dividends from some stocks his grandpa gifted him, and I ran the numbers both ways. It was definitely cheaper for him to file his own return since his tax rate was effectively zero, while adding it to my income pushed some of it into my 22% bracket!
Exactly! The convenience of Form 8814 often comes with a stealth tax increase. I found for my daughter's case, we saved nearly $400 by having her file her own return instead of using Form 8814. The kiddie tax rules still apply either way, but there's usually still a benefit to filing separately. The only hassle is the extra paperwork, but for a few hundred dollars in savings, it's worth the 20 minutes it takes to file a simple return for a kid with just interest or dividend income.
This could also be a Recovery Rebate Credit adjustment. Did you claim the recovery rebate on your return? The IRS has been adjusting these if people entered incorrect amounts. Or did you claim unemployment in 2022? There was a partial tax exemption that some tax software didn't calculate correctly initially.
I didn't claim any recovery rebate credit that I know of, and I wasn't on unemployment in 2022. I work full-time and just did a standard tax return with some basic deductions for mortgage interest. The payment came with a notice that has a bunch of codes on it that I don't understand. I'm going to check my online account like someone suggested and see if there's more info there.
If the payment came with a notice that has codes, those codes are the key to understanding what happened. Typically, CP12 notices indicate math error corrections, CP49 might be for overpayment adjustments, and CP21C often relates to changes made to your account. Check your online account at irs.gov as that will likely have more details than what's visible on the physical notice. If you look at the top right of the notice, there should be a notice number (CP followed by some numbers) - that will tell you exactly what type of adjustment this is. Most of these unexpected payments are legitimate adjustments in your favor due to calculation errors or tax law changes.
Has anyone checked if this could be a scam? There are a lot of tax scams where they send fake "refund" checks and then contact you claiming you need to return part of it because it was "too much." Just to be safe, I'd verify this is actually from the IRS before doing anything.
That's actually a good point. A legitimate IRS check will be from the US Treasury, not the "IRS" directly. It should be drawn on the Treasury account. And if you deposit it, wait at least 30 days to make sure it clears properly before spending the money just to be safe.
Pro tip from someone who's been through this: Make sure you're keeping ALL your solar paperwork and receipts for the full time you're carrying forward the credit. IRS can request documentation for any year you claim part of the credit, and it's a pain if you've lost the original installation contract/receipts. I learned this the hard way when I got a letter asking for verification in year 3 of claiming my carried-forward solar credit. Had to contact the installer for duplicate documentation.
Thanks for the heads up! I hadn't even thought about documentation issues. Does TurboTax store all this info year to year or should I be keeping separate records?
TurboTax does track the remaining credit amount from year to year if you use it consistently, but it doesn't store your actual receipts or documentation. You definitely need to keep all that separately. I recommend scanning everything related to your solar purchase and installation and keeping digital copies in multiple places (cloud storage, external drive, etc.). Include the contract, all receipts, the manufacturer's certification statement, and any utility interconnection agreements. The IRS can ask for this stuff years later, and solar companies sometimes go out of business, making it impossible to get duplicates.
Has anyone else had issues with turbotax calculating this correctly? Mine showed I had a $7,400 credit but then only applied about $2,300 to this year's taxes. The rest is supposedly carrying forward but there's no clear documentation showing the remaining balance anywhere I can find in the forms.
Check your Form 5695 on the actual tax return PDF. It should show both the total credit calculated and the amount applied to this year. The amount carrying forward should be the difference. It's on Part I, line 15 (total credit) and line 16 (amount used this year).
Found it! You're right, it's on those lines. Weird that TurboTax doesn't make this clearer in their summary. I see now that I have about $5,100 carrying forward. Thanks for pointing me to the right place!
Oliver Schmidt
I'd recommend using the standard mileage deduction for your car since you don't need actual receipts for that - just a log of business miles. You can recreate this after the fact using Google Maps and your calendar/work schedule. For 2024, you get 68 cents per mile which can add up fast! For other expenses, look through your bank/credit card statements to find business purchases. Even without receipts, these statements are considered supporting documentation by the IRS. Just be honest and reasonable with what you claim. Whatever you do, DON'T skip reporting the income! The IRS gets copies of 1099s, and not reporting income is way worse than claiming reasonable expenses without perfect documentation.
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Ava Thompson
ā¢Thank you for the advice! I've been looking through my Google Maps timeline and I can actually piece together a lot of my driving history which is super helpful. I'm definitely reporting all the income - I'm just trying to figure out the right way to handle the expense side. Do you have any guidance on what percentage of expenses would trigger an audit? I want to be honest but also not raise any red flags.
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Oliver Schmidt
ā¢There's no specific percentage that automatically triggers an audit. The IRS compares your expense ratios to industry averages, so what matters is whether your deductions seem reasonable for your type of work. For example, if you're doing handyman jobs, claiming 30-40% expenses might be reasonable, but claiming 80% would raise eyebrows. Focus on being accurate and honest rather than worrying about audit triggers. Document everything you can reconstruct, keep your tax records for at least 3 years, and you should be fine. Most small business audits happen because of unreported income or extremely disproportionate expense claims, not because someone claimed legitimate expenses without perfect documentation.
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Natasha Volkov
What tax software are you using? I was in a similar situation and found that TurboTax Self-Employed walked me through exactly what expenses I could claim and how to document them after the fact. It also suggested expenses I hadn't even thought about (like a portion of cell phone bills, home office if applicable, etc).
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Javier Torres
ā¢I prefer FreeTaxUSA for self-employment income. It's way cheaper than TurboTax and just as thorough for Schedule C filing. It also has good guidance on documentation requirements.
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