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Brian Downey

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Something nobody mentioned yet - make sure you're using the correct versions of the forms. The IRS updated Form 433-A in 2023 and many people still use old versions they find online. Go directly to IRS.gov to get the current version.

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Jacinda Yu

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Is there a significant difference between the old and new versions? I found one from a few years ago in my files and was planning to use that as a template.

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Just wanted to add - make sure you check if your state requires separate OIC forms for state taxes. I made this mistake with my passthrough LLC. Got the federal OIC sorted out with 433-A but completely forgot about state taxes until they sent me a collection notice. Each state has different requirements for defunct LLCs with tax debt.

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Zainab Ahmed

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Just to add another perspective here - I worked as a tax preparer for years, and this is a clear mistake by the CPA. There's absolutely no scenario where 1099-INT and 1099-DIV income shouldn't appear on the 1040, even if it's not taxable. One thing to check - is it possible these investments are held in a tax-advantaged account like an IRA? In that case, you wouldn't report the interest and dividends on the 1040. But if regular 1099 forms were issued (not as part of an IRA or similar account), then this income must be reported. The fact that your parents received actual 1099 forms that weren't included on the return is concerning and suggests a genuine oversight rather than a legitimate tax strategy.

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That's a good point about tax-advantaged accounts! But no, these are definitely regular taxable investment accounts they've had for years, not IRAs. The 1099s were issued by their bank and a brokerage firm for normal taxable accounts. I think at this point it's pretty clear the CPA made a mistake. Do you think this kind of oversight indicates my parents should look for a new tax preparer, or is this the kind of mistake anyone might make occasionally?

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Zainab Ahmed

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Based on your confirmation that these are regular taxable accounts, this is definitely an error that shouldn't have happened. While everyone can make an occasional mistake, missing multiple 1099 forms is concerning because it's such a fundamental part of tax preparation. I would suggest having a conversation with the CPA first. Their response will tell you a lot - a good professional will acknowledge the error, fix it promptly at no additional cost, and explain what steps they'll take to prevent similar mistakes in the future. If they're defensive or try to charge for fixing their own mistake, that's a red flag. What makes this particularly troubling is that tax software and even manual checklists that CPAs use are specifically designed to prompt for 1099 income. This suggests either carelessness or possibly that some documents were misplaced during preparation.

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Connor Byrne

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One slightly different possibility - could the CPA have netted these amounts against losses somewhere else? Sometimes preparers will combine multiple income/loss items when there are offsetting amounts. Check Schedule D or Form 8949 to see if there might be losses that were used to offset these gains. Though even if that happened, it's still incorrect. The interest should be on line 2a regardless, and the dividends should show on lines 3a/3b before any netting occurs elsewhere on the return. But it might explain the preparer's thinking.

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Yara Abboud

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That's not how tax reporting works though. Interest income and dividends aren't netted against capital losses on Schedule D. They're entirely separate types of income reported on different lines of the 1040. Capital losses can offset capital gains, but not interest or dividend income.

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StarStrider

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From my understanding, there's a difference between having money and having income. For tax purposes, if you made money in previous years and are using that to support yourself and your child, that's fine - but it's not considered income for the current tax year. For Head of Household, I think you need to have some income in the current year. Your crypto losses might actually count as "income" for filing purposes (even though they're negative), which might still allow you to file as HOH if you meet the other requirements about supporting your dependent.

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Yuki Sato

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This is incorrect. There's no minimum income requirement to file as Head of Household. You need to meet the requirements about marital status, providing support, and having a qualifying person live with you. The IRS doesn't care if your support comes from current income, previous income, gifts, loans, or inheritance. The confusion might be that you need income above certain thresholds to be REQUIRED to file taxes at all, but that's different from being ELIGIBLE for a certain filing status.

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StarStrider

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Thanks for the correction - I was mixing up the requirements for being required to file with the requirements for filing status eligibility. You're right that there's no minimum income requirement specifically for claiming Head of Household status. The key factors are the ones mentioned earlier about maintaining a household and supporting a qualifying dependent. The OP should be eligible based on what they've described, regardless of whether they had positive income in the current tax year.

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Carmen Ruiz

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One thing nobody's mentioned - make sure your son qualifies as your dependent. For HOH, the qualifying person usually needs to be your dependent (with some exceptions). Since you mentioned supporting him with previous crypto gains, you should make sure you meet the support test for claiming him as a dependent. For the dependent test, you need to provide more than half of his support for the year. Did you have any other income sources in 2023 besides crypto? Any unemployment, part-time work, etc? If not, the IRS might question how you provided support without income.

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Thanks for bringing this up. My son is definitely my dependent - he's 9 years old and I provide 100% of his support. He lives with me full-time. I do have some small side income from freelance work (about $8,000 for the year) that I didn't mention in my original post since it's minor compared to what I was living on from previous crypto gains. I also had some interest income from my savings where I keep my previous crypto profits. Would that help establish that I had some income for the year?

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I e-filed on April 1st and it took almost 4 days to get accepted - and that was almost two weeks ago when volume was lower. The closer we get to the deadline, the slower everything gets. The IRS systems are probably getting hammered right now with last-minute filers. One thing to check - did you verify last year's AGI correctly? That's a common reason for delays or rejections, especially if you filed with a different service last year.

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Nia Johnson

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Thanks for the perspective! I did double-check my AGI from last year since I switched from paper filing to electronic. I actually had to dig out my old return to make sure I had the number right. Sounds like I just need to be patient for a couple more days.

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Glad you verified that! Another tip is to create an account on the IRS website if you haven't already. Sometimes you can see the status of your return there before your tax software updates. The "Where's My Refund" tool won't help until your return is accepted, but having the account set up now will save you time later.

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Anyone else notice that TurboTax seems way slower with updates than other services? My friend and I filed on the same day (last Friday) - she used FreeTaxUSA and got her acceptance within 12 hours. I'm still waiting for TurboTax to update my status.

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Mei Wong

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I've used both and noticed the same thing! I think TurboTax only updates their status a few times a day while some of the others check more frequently. The actual processing time at the IRS is probably the same.

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Sergio Neal

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Don't forget about the Earned Income Tax Credit too! If your income is below certain thresholds, you might qualify for this on top of the Child Tax Credit. For 2024 taxes (filing in 2025), a married couple with one child can earn up to about $53,120 and still get some EITC benefit. It phases out gradually as income increases. With your combined income of $78,000, you're probably over the limit, but if one of you took unpaid leave that reduced your annual income, it might be worth checking. The EITC can be worth up to $3,995 with one child for 2024.

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We probably don't qualify for that one then, since our combined income is still around $78k even with my wife's unpaid leave. But thanks for mentioning it! Are there any other credits or deductions we should look into as new parents?

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Sergio Neal

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You might still qualify for the child and dependent care credit I mentioned earlier if you're paying for childcare. Also look into whether you can deduct any medical expenses related to the birth - if your total medical expenses for the year exceed 7.5% of your adjusted gross income, you can deduct the amount over that threshold if you itemize deductions. Some employers also offer dependent care FSAs which let you set aside pre-tax money for childcare expenses. It's too late for 2024, but something to consider for 2025. And start looking into 529 college savings plans - there's no federal tax deduction for contributions, but earnings grow tax-free when used for education expenses.

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Has anyone here used the "Child Tax Credit Filer" tool or whatever it's called on the IRS website? Is it easier than doing it through TurboTax? This is my first year claiming my daughter and I'm confused about all the options.

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Juan Moreno

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I used the IRS Free File system last year to claim the child tax credit for my son. It was actually pretty straightforward - it asks clear questions about dependents. If your income is under $73,000, you can use it for free. If you make more, TurboTax or H&R Block might be easier, but they'll charge you for the forms needed to claim child-related credits.

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