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Another option is to file IRS Form 8822 (Change of Address) ASAP. This updates your address with the IRS, though it may not directly affect where your employer sends your W-2. A lot of smaller companies use the USPS National Change of Address database when sending out tax forms. If you filed a change of address with the post office when you moved, there's a good chance your W-2 will get forwarded to your new address automatically.
Thanks for suggesting Form 8822! Do you know if filing this form would help me get a copy of my W-2 directly from the IRS if my former employer already submitted it to them? And about how long does the change of address usually take to process?
Filing Form 8822 won't help you get a W-2 copy directly from the IRS, it just ensures future IRS correspondence goes to your current address. The IRS typically processes these forms in 4-6 weeks. For getting your W-2 information from the IRS, you'll need to request a Wage and Income Transcript as others have mentioned, but only after employers' deadline to submit W-2s (January 31st). The IRS typically needs a few weeks after that to process all the information, so mid-February is when you can reliably access this information.
Whatever you do, don't miss the filing deadline because of this! If you can't get your W-2 in time, file for an extension using Form 4868. This gives you until October to file your actual return while you sort out getting the correct W-2 information. Just remember that an extension to file is NOT an extension to pay, so you'll need to estimate what you owe (if anything) and pay that by the regular April deadline to avoid penalties and interest.
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - after you paper file, make sure you keep proof of mailing! I was in this exact situation last year (rejection due to non-filer status) and the IRS lost my paper return TWICE. Get a certified mail receipt or similar tracking proof from whatever service you use. Also, for your state taxes, I'd recommend still filing electronically if possible. Most states have separate systems and won't reject you based on federal non-filer status. Pay what you owe to the state immediately to avoid penalties, even if your federal return is still processing.
Can I just file my state taxes separately even if I normally do them together with my federal? I use TurboTax and I'm not sure how to separate them after I've already entered all my info for both.
Absolutely! Most tax software allows you to file state separately from federal. In TurboTax, after completing both returns, you can choose to e-file just the state portion. Look for filing options during the final steps - there should be checkboxes for federal and state that you can select independently. If for some reason your software doesn't allow separate filing, you can also go directly to your state's tax website. Many states offer free filing options for basic returns, and you can enter your information there independently from your federal return.
Does anyone know how this affects my tax refund timeline? My return was rejected for the same non-filer reason, and I'm expecting about $3,000 back which I really need soon. If I have to paper file now, am I looking at months of waiting?
Unfortunately, yes. Paper returns are taking 6-12 weeks minimum to process this year, and that's if everything goes perfectly. My brother was in your situation last year and ended up waiting almost 4 months for his refund after paper filing. The non-filer issue seems to flag returns for additional manual review too.
Don't forget about these other potential deductions: - Professional development courses related to real estate - Business cards or marketing materials - Software subscriptions used for work (calendar apps, etc) - Portion of your health insurance premiums - Business meals (50% deductible when discussing business) My biggest advice is start a separate bank account or credit card just for business expenses. Makes tracking SO much easier at tax time!
Can I deduct Spotify if I use it to play music for open houses? Or is that stretching it?
That's actually a good question about Spotify. If you're using it exclusively for business purposes like open houses, you might be able to deduct it. However, if you also use it personally (which most people do), you would need to determine what percentage is for business use and only deduct that portion. Generally speaking, you need to be careful with these "dual-use" subscriptions. The safest approach would be to keep track of how many hours/days you use it specifically for open houses compared to personal use. But honestly, for something relatively small like a Spotify subscription, the record-keeping burden might outweigh the tax benefit.
Quick warning as someone who learned the hard way: make sure your broker actually classifies you as an independent contractor correctly. My "independent contractor" job turned out to be misclassified, and it created a huge tax mess. If they control when, where, and how you work, provide training, etc., you might legally be an employee. Just something to double-check!
I went through something similar with about $40k in back taxes from my consulting business. One thing I didn't see mentioned yet - look into penalty abatement! If this was your first time getting into tax trouble, you might qualify for First-Time Penalty Abatement which could significantly reduce what you owe. In my case, about $12k of my bill was penalties and interest. I filed for abatement using Form 843 and got most of the penalties removed. Didn't solve the whole problem but made it much more manageable. Also, definitely file your CNC request properly. If you get approved for CNC status, the 10-year statute of limitations continues to run while you're in that status. After 10 years, any remaining tax debt can expire (though there are exceptions).
How complicated is the penalty abatement form? Did you need help filling it out or is it something that's pretty straightforward?
The penalty abatement form (Form 843) is actually pretty straightforward. It's just two pages, and for First-Time Penalty Abatement, you basically need to explain that you've had a good compliance history before this issue and had reasonable cause for the failure to pay. I wrote a simple letter stating I had always filed and paid on time previously, was unaware of the proper estimated tax requirements for my new business, and was now taking steps to resolve the situation. Include your contact info, the tax periods you're requesting abatement for, and why you believe you qualify. It took about 8 weeks to get approved in my case.
Don't forget to check if you qualify for any of the tax relief programs specific to the pandemic! If your business was affected during that time, there might be some additional options. The IRS created several taxpayer relief initiatives during COVID that some people don't know about. Also, when you file for an Offer in Compromise, the IRS uses a specific formula to determine what they'll accept. They generally want either: 1. The quick sale value of your assets, OR 2. Your monthly disposable income Ć 12 (or Ć 24 if you're paying over time) With your income and expenses, you might be able to settle for a fraction of what you owe. Don't be discouraged by the $75k figure!
Thanks for mentioning COVID relief options. My business was definitely affected during that time. Do you know if these programs are still available in 2025? Also, how exactly do they calculate "disposable income" for the OIC formula?
Many of the COVID relief options have expired, but the IRS is still processing applications submitted during the eligible periods. If your tax debt originated during the pandemic years, you might still qualify for certain penalty relief under their broader "reasonable cause" criteria. It's worth mentioning in any communications with the IRS. For calculating disposable income in an OIC, they take your gross monthly income and subtract what they call "allowable expenses." These are based on national and local standards for living expenses like housing, transportation, food, etc. The key is that they use their own standards, not your actual expenses for many categories. So if your car payment is higher than their standard transportation allowance, they'll only count the standard amount. This is where many people run into issues with OICs - the IRS might calculate your disposable income as higher than what you actually have available after paying your real bills.
Lucas Lindsey
To add to what others have said, I'd recommend creating a detailed transaction log showing: 1) Initial USD to BTC purchase (date, amount, exchange) 2) BTC transfer to forex broker (date, amount, BTC value) 3) Conversion to fiat for forex trading (date, amount) 4) Summary of forex trading results (can be daily/weekly totals instead of every trade) 5) Conversion back to BTC (date, amount, BTC value) 6) Transfer back to exchange (date, amount, BTC value) This is essentially creating a paper trail that shows why the exchange 1099s don't tell the whole story. You'll want to report the actual forex trading results on Schedule 1 as Section 988 income/loss. The key is documenting everything thoroughly so if you're audited, you can clearly explain the discrepancy between the exchange reports and your actual tax situation.
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Nina Fitzgerald
ā¢This is extremely helpful, thank you! One question - when creating this transaction log, should I calculate the USD value of the BTC at each transfer point? Or just focus on the final gain/loss numbers?
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Lucas Lindsey
ā¢Yes, you should definitely record the USD value of the BTC at each transfer point. This is crucial because the IRS considers each crypto-to-fiat or crypto-to-crypto exchange a potentially taxable event, and those values establish your cost basis. When you transfer BTC to your forex broker and convert to fiat, you technically have a taxable event based on whether your BTC gained/lost value since purchase. Then your forex trading creates separate taxable events. Finally, when converting back to BTC, there's another taxable event. Recording the USD values at each step creates a clear audit trail that properly separates the crypto transactions from the forex transactions.
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Sophie Duck
Anyone know if the wash sale rule applies to forex trading? I had some losing trades that I closed out in December 2024, then opened similar positions in January 2025. My tax software is flagging them as potential wash sales but I thought forex was exempt?
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Austin Leonard
ā¢Forex trades under Section 988 (which is the default for most retail forex traders) are NOT subject to wash sale rules. They're treated as ordinary income/loss rather than capital gains/losses. However, if you elected to use Section 1256 treatment (which most retail traders don't), then different rules would apply. Make sure you're consistent in your treatment though. You can't cherry-pick which trades fall under which section to maximize tax benefits.
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Sophie Duck
ā¢Thanks for clearing that up! I've definitely been treating everything as Section 988 since I'm doing short-term day trading, so I should be good. I'll override the flag in my tax software and make a note explaining that these are forex trades under Section 988 and therefore exempt from wash sale rules.
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