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Just want to point out that if you do decide to withdraw from your 401k, remember that the plan administrator will usually withhold 20% for federal taxes, which might not be enough depending on your tax bracket. So you'd need to withdraw more than just the amount you owe the IRS to account for the taxes on the withdrawal itself.
I was in a very similar situation last year and ended up going with the estimated payment route rather than touching my 401k. Here's what I learned: even though you're over 59.5 and won't face the early withdrawal penalty, the tax implications can be tricky. The biggest issue is that you'll need to withdraw MORE than the $5,400 you owe because the withdrawal itself becomes taxable income. Plus, depending on your current tax bracket, that additional income could push you into a higher bracket for the year. I'd strongly recommend calculating both scenarios before deciding. For the estimated payment, you can still make the Q4 payment by January 15th through the IRS website - it's actually pretty straightforward once you set up an account. And if your income was uneven this year (sounds like it might have been), look into Form 2210 and the annualized income method - it could save you from underpayment penalties on earlier quarters. The peace of mind from keeping your retirement savings intact and growing was worth it for me, even with a small penalty.
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting with HIFO? I've got about 50 transactions across Coinbase and Kraken, and I'm wondering if it's worth paying for their premium version or if I should use something else entirely.
Another important consideration with HIFO is that it can create some unexpected complications if you're planning to hold crypto long-term. Since you're always selling your highest-cost basis coins first, you might inadvertently be selling newer purchases that haven't reached the one-year holding period for long-term capital gains treatment. This means you could end up with more short-term gains (taxed as ordinary income) instead of long-term gains (lower tax rates). Also, if you ever need to demonstrate a clear investment strategy to the IRS, constantly cherry-picking the highest cost basis assets might look like you're purely focused on tax avoidance rather than following a consistent investment approach. The IRS prefers methods that reflect actual investment decisions rather than purely tax-motivated choices. For your 50 transactions, make sure whatever software you use can generate the detailed Form 8949 that shows each specific transaction with dates and cost basis - the IRS will want to see this level of detail if they ever audit your crypto reporting.
I went through this exact scenario in 2022. If you're not 100% sure whether you elected S-Corp status, check your mail for a CP261 notice from the IRS - they send this when they accept your S election. Also check if you ever filed Form 2553 (Election by a Small Business Corporation). This is REQUIRED to elect S-Corp status - checking a box on your EIN application alone doesn't complete the election. If you never received CP261 and never filed Form 2553, you're probably still a disregarded entity despite what you indicated on your EIN application.
This is super helpful. I was freaking out over the same situation but I never received any confirmation letters and can't find a copy of Form 2553 in my records. Sounds like I might be in the clear?
I went through this exact same nightmare situation two years ago! The confusion between what you select during EIN application vs. actual S-Corp election is SO common. Here's what I learned: Just checking "S-Corp" on your EIN application does NOT automatically elect S-Corp status. You need to file Form 2553 separately within 75 days of formation (or by March 15th of the following year) to actually make the election stick. In my case, I thought I had elected S-Corp status but never filed the 2553. I was technically still a disregarded entity the whole time, which meant no back filing requirements for my dormant LLC. The easiest way to know for sure is to call the IRS at 800-829-4933 with your EIN and ask them directly what elections they have on file. If they don't show an S-Corp election, you're likely still a disregarded entity and don't need to worry about those 1120-S filings or penalties. Don't panic until you confirm your actual status - you might be stressing over nothing!
Have you considered bankruptcy? I was drowning in tax debt and finally filed for Chapter 7. It's not widely known, but certain income tax debts CAN be discharged in bankruptcy if they meet specific criteria: - The taxes are income taxes - You didn't commit fraud or willful evasion - The debt is at least 3 years old from the date it was due - You filed the tax return at least 2 years before filing bankruptcy - The IRS assessed the tax at least 240 days before filing bankruptcy It saved me from a similar situation. Might be worth consulting with a bankruptcy attorney for a free consultation.
This is risky advice. Business taxes like payroll taxes CANNOT be discharged in bankruptcy, and the "willful evasion" part gets complicated if you knowingly didn't file. Also, bankruptcy absolutely destroys your credit for years.
Thanks for this suggestion. I didn't realize bankruptcy could potentially help with tax debt. I'm going to look into all options mentioned here - installment agreements, Offer in Compromise, and possibly bankruptcy as a last resort. Just having some potential paths forward is already helping with the anxiety.
I really feel for you - that level of tax debt is terrifying, but you're not alone and there ARE solutions. The anxiety and panic attacks are completely understandable, but taking action will help you feel more in control. A few important points based on what others have shared: 1. **Act NOW** - The IRS is actually more willing to work with people who are proactive rather than those who hide. Every day you wait, interest and penalties keep adding up. 2. **You likely qualify for Currently Not Collectible status** given your income level. This would temporarily stop all collection actions while you're in financial hardship. 3. **Document everything** - Start gathering your financial records (income, expenses, assets, debts). You'll need this for any payment plan or settlement option. 4. **Consider the Taxpayer Advocate Service** - This is a free IRS service specifically designed to help taxpayers in difficult situations. They can be your advocate within the IRS system. As a delivery driver making $3,200/month, you're likely judgment-proof for most collection actions anyway. The IRS can't take your primary vehicle if you need it for work, and they can't garnish wages below certain thresholds. Don't let the fear paralyze you. The IRS deals with situations like yours every single day. Take it one step at a time, and remember - this problem has solutions.
Victoria Scott
Has anyone tried doing this calculation on TurboTax? I've got a similar situation with about $8K in carried over losses from last year and $11K in gains this year, but TurboTax seems to be applying my losses weirdly. It's only using part of my carryover.
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Benjamin Johnson
ā¢I used TurboTax for this exact situation last year. Make sure you're entering your capital loss carryover from last year correctly - there should be a specific section for entering carryover amounts. If you just enter it as a current year loss, it will process it incorrectly. Also double-check that you properly categorized your carryover as short-term or long-term (or properly split between both if applicable). TurboTax worked fine for me once I entered everything in the right place.
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StarSurfer
This is a great question that trips up a lot of people! The key thing to understand is that the $3,000 annual limit only applies when you're using capital losses against ordinary income (like your salary). When you have actual capital gains, you can use your entire capital loss carryover to offset those gains without any annual limit. In your specific case with $13.5K loss carryover and $16K gains, you would indeed subtract the full $13.5K from your $16K gains, leaving you with only $2.5K in net capital gains to be taxed on this year. No remaining loss would carry forward to Y3 since you've used it all up. The IRS designed it this way because capital losses and gains are considered "like-kind" - losses from selling investments should be able to fully offset gains from selling investments. The $3K limit is really just a consolation prize when you don't have any gains to offset against. Make sure you're correctly categorizing your carryover losses as short-term vs long-term though, as the netting rules do matter for determining your final tax rate on any remaining gains.
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