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How to file Form 8843 as a 6th Year F-1 Student claiming Non-Resident Alien status?

I'm currently in my 6th year as an international student on an F-1 visa, and I'm trying to figure out how to properly file my taxes as a Non-Resident Alien. During my first five years, this was straightforward since my days in the US didn't count toward the substantial presence test, making me automatically a non-resident. Now that I'm in my 6th year (2023), I would normally be considered a resident alien. However, I want to use "The Closer Connection Exception to the Substantial Presence Test for Foreign Students" (not the regular closer connection exception!) to maintain my non-resident status. According to IRS regulations, ยง7701(b)(5)(E) includes this provision: >Limitation on students > >For any calendar year after the 5th calendar year for which an individual was an exempt individual under clause (ii) or (iii) of subparagraph (A), such individual shall not be treated as an exempt individual by reason of clause (iii) of subparagraph (A), **unless such individual establishes to the satisfaction of the Secretary that such individual does not intend to permanently reside in the United States and that such individual meets the requirements of subparagraph (D)(ii).** My problem is with Line 12 of Form 8843, which states: "*You must provide sufficient facts on an attached statement that you do not intend to reside permanently in the United States*" I've spent days researching online and even visited multiple tax preparation offices, but nobody seems to know exactly what this statement should include or how to format it. What should this statement look like? Is it just a letter explaining that I meet the criteria? What kind of evidence should I include? Has anyone successfully filed this exception before? Thanks for any guidance!

Lara Woods

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Hey guys, wanted to share what worked for me as a 6th-year student from Canada. My statement for Form 8843 was actually pretty simple and got accepted without issues. I basically wrote 2 paragraphs: Paragraph 1: Stated my permanent address in Canada, mentioned my family there, noted that I maintain my Canadian health insurance, bank accounts, driver's license, and voter registration. Paragraph 2: Explicitly stated my plans to return to Canada immediately after finishing my program (with specific date), mentioned the job sector I plan to work in back home, and stated clearly "I do not intend to permanently reside in the United States." I signed and dated it, attached it to Form 8843, and had zero issues. No need to overthink it!

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Adrian Hughes

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Did you have to provide any actual proof though? Like copies of your Canadian documents or anything? Or did they just take your word for it?

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As someone who just went through this process successfully, I want to emphasize that the key is being specific and genuine in your statement. Don't overthink it, but make sure you cover the essential elements the IRS is looking for. Here's what I included in my statement that got accepted without any issues: 1. **Clear statement of intent**: "I do not intend to permanently reside in the United States and plan to return to [country] upon completion of my studies in [specific month/year]." 2. **Permanent residence details**: Address where you maintain your permanent home, who lives there (family members), and how long you've maintained that residence. 3. **Financial ties**: Bank accounts, investments, property, or other financial commitments in your home country. 4. **Personal/family ties**: Immediate family members, dependents, or close relatives who rely on you or whom you support financially. 5. **Professional plans**: Specific career plans, job applications, or professional licensing you're pursuing in your home country. 6. **Cultural/civic ties**: Things like voter registration, professional memberships, religious affiliations, or community involvement that demonstrate ongoing connection to your home country. The statement doesn't need to be lengthy - mine was about 1.5 pages, typed, signed, and dated. Keep it professional but personal. The IRS wants to see that your presence in the US is genuinely temporary and that you have compelling reasons to return home. Remember, this exception exists specifically for students like us, so don't be afraid to use it if you legitimately qualify!

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Alice Pierce

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Has anyone mentioned the "step-up in basis" issue yet? This doesn't apply to cash in a bank account, but if there were any investments in the account (stocks, bonds, etc.), you'd get a step-up in basis to the fair market value on the date of death. This can be really important for tax purposes if you ever sell those investments.

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Esteban Tate

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Actually, I don't think step-up in basis applies to jointly held property the same way. I believe you only get a partial step-up based on the deceased's ownership portion. It's different from inherited property.

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Holly Lascelles

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One thing I'd add to the great advice already shared - make sure you get written documentation from the bank about the account structure. Ask them for a letter or official document that states you were a joint account holder with rights of survivorship (if that's what it was). This documentation could be valuable if you ever face questions from the IRS or need to prove the account's status. Also, consider opening a separate account and transferring the funds there rather than keeping them in the original account. This creates a cleaner paper trail and separates any future transactions from the original joint account history. Plus, you'll want to update the account to remove your aunt's name from any remaining documentation. The fact that you're being so careful about doing this right shows you're on the right track. Most people in your situation don't owe any federal taxes on joint accounts, but having proper documentation gives you peace of mind and protects you if any questions arise later.

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Grace Durand

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Important point nobody's mentioned: make sure you also amend your state tax return if applicable! When I fixed an underreporting issue on my federal return, I completely forgot about my state taxes and ended up getting a nasty letter from them about six months later.

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Steven Adams

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Good point! Do you need to wait for the IRS to process the federal amendment before filing the state amendment, or can you do both at the same time?

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Grace Durand

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You can generally file both amendments at the same time. There's no need to wait for the federal amendment to be processed first. However, some states do require you to attach a copy of your federal amendment to your state amendment form, so be sure to make an extra copy of your 1040-X for that purpose. I'd recommend checking your specific state's tax website for their amendment procedures. Some states have online portals for amendments while others require paper filing, and the deadlines can vary from state to state as well.

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Alice Fleming

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One thing to consider - if you were receiving pandemic unemployment during that same period, reporting the additional income might affect your eligibility for those benefits. The unemployment system might determine you were overpaid benefits based on your actual income.

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Hassan Khoury

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That's a really good point! How would that even work retroactively? Would unemployment send a bill for overpayment or something?

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Mei Chen

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Yes, unemployment agencies can and do pursue overpayment recovery even years later. They typically send a notice of overpayment with options to either pay back in full or set up a payment plan. In some cases, they can also offset future tax refunds or benefits. However, the specific rules vary by state and depend on factors like whether you reported your side gig income when filing weekly claims. If you were supposed to report this income during your claim period and didn't, that could be considered fraud rather than just an overpayment. I'd recommend checking with your state's unemployment office about their policies before filing the tax amendment, just so you know what to expect.

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Zachary Hughes

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Has your employer given you any info about COBRA? When I had surgery last year, my HR dept told me COBRA might actually be cheaper than paying the full premium directly to them. Weird but true in some cases! Worth asking about.

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Mia Alvarez

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This is solid advice. My company's insurance was $1100/month but COBRA was somehow only $950. Something about administrative fees being calculated differently. Definitely check both options.

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Chloe Taylor

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One thing to keep in mind - make sure you get documentation from your employer stating that these premium payments are being made with after-tax dollars and that you're maintaining the same coverage you had while employed. The IRS may want to see proof that this isn't duplicating any pre-tax deductions. Also, since you're looking at substantial medical expenses with the hip replacement, consider timing any elective medical procedures or expenses for this same tax year if possible. Since you'll likely exceed that 7.5% AGI threshold anyway, it makes sense to bunch as many qualifying medical expenses as you can into 2025 to maximize your deduction. Hope your surgery goes well and recovery is smooth!

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Giovanni Rossi

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could be identity theft... happened to me last year. somebody was stealing my mail

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Lena Kowalski

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omg never thought of that. how did u fix it?

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Giovanni Rossi

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had to file police report + form 14039 with IRS. whole mess took 3 months to fix ๐Ÿ˜ซ

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Ingrid Larsson

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I went through the exact same thing last year! After the third "30 day wait" I finally got fed up and called my congressman's office. They have a constituent services team that can contact the IRS directly on your behalf. Got my refund within 2 weeks after months of runaround. Sometimes you need someone with actual authority to light a fire under them. Worth a shot if the payment trace doesn't work!

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