


Ask the community...
Has anyone else noticed that Morgan Stanley seems to mess this up a lot? I had the same issue when I became a resident, and it took them forever to update their systems. Their customer service was useless when I tried to get help too. Anyone have any luck getting them to fix this?
I recommend sending a secure message through their portal specifically asking for the "Tax Reporting Department." Regular customer service reps don't know how to handle these tax document issues, but if you get to the right department, they can issue corrected forms. Took about 3 weeks for me, but they eventually fixed it.
I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! I received both forms from E*Trade for the same reason - they had me classified as a non-resident for the first part of 2024 even though I've been a US resident the whole year. What really helped me was calling the IRS directly to confirm the reporting approach. The agent I spoke with explained that this is actually pretty common when brokerage firms don't update residency status quickly enough in their systems. She confirmed that as a US resident, I should report the dividend income from both forms as regular dividend income, but enter them separately to ensure all withholding is properly credited. The key thing she emphasized was making sure I claim ALL the federal tax withholding from both forms - don't miss any of it because that's money you've already paid to the IRS. In my case, the 1042-S withholding was actually higher than normal dividend withholding rates, so I ended up getting a bigger refund than expected. For FreeTaxUSA specifically, I found the 1042-S entry under "Federal" ā "Income" ā "Less Common Income" ā "Other Income Not Reported on Form 1099" and then there's a specific dropdown option for 1042-S. Make sure to enter the withholding amount in the federal tax withheld section when prompted.
For the nanny income specifically, since it was family (her cousin), do you think there was an understanding this was "under the table"? Because that complicates things. If you suddenly report this income, you could potentially create problems for the family that employed her if they didn't handle their end of the household employment taxes. Not saying don't report it, but just something to consider. Maybe have a conversation with the cousin first?
Yeah, it was definitely an informal arrangement. I hadn't thought about how reporting it might affect them. I'll reach out to her cousin and see if we can figure this out together. I just want to get caught up without creating problems for anyone else. Do you think there's a statute of limitations on the household employment taxes they might owe? This was back in 2018 so it's been a while now.
For the IRS, the statute of limitations is generally 3 years, but it extends to 6 years if there's a substantial underreporting of income (25% or more). Since this involves employment taxes, the cousin's family could potentially face penalties for not filing Schedule H and paying household employment taxes. If I were in your shoes, I'd definitely have that conversation with them first. One potential approach is to just report the income as "miscellaneous income" on Schedule 1 rather than specifically as nanny or household employee income. This reports your wife's income without explicitly triggering household employment tax implications. While technically not the perfect solution, it might be a practical compromise for an informal family arrangement from years ago. Remember though, I'm just sharing what I've learned from my own experience - each situation is unique and has its own considerations.
For your wife's nanny income, wouldn't she need to pay self-employment tax too? That's an extra 15.3% on top of regular income tax, right? That seems like it would be a big hit on back taxes you're already struggling with.
Oh that's a huge relief! I've been reporting babysitting money as self-employment income and paying that extra tax for years. So if I'm caring for kids in their home and following their schedule, I'm actually a household employee and not self-employed? How would I fix my past returns then?
Yes, you're likely correct about being a household employee! The key test is whether you're working in their home, following their schedule, and they control how you do your work. If so, you're their employee, not self-employed. To fix past returns, you'd need to file amended returns (Form 1040X) for any years within the statute of limitations (generally 3 years). You'd remove the self-employment income from Schedule C and instead report it as "other income" on Schedule 1. This should eliminate the self-employment tax you've been paying. However, keep in mind that your employers technically should have been paying their share of Social Security and Medicare taxes too. When you amend, you might want to consider whether this could create issues for them, similar to what @Makayla Shoemaker is dealing with regarding her cousin s'family. You might want to consult with a tax professional to make sure you handle the amendments correctly and understand all the implications before filing.
Just want to add a important warning: if you worked remotely for your California company while living in Maryland, you might have Maryland AND California income tax obligations for that portion of the year! California is super aggressive about taxing remote workers of CA companies. When you moved to TN, make sure you formally notified your employer of your new address and had them update your state tax withholding. Check your recent paystubs to confirm they're no longer withholding Maryland or California taxes.
Wait, that doesn't sound right. I worked remotely for a California company while living in Colorado and only paid Colorado taxes. You pay income taxes based on where YOU physically are when performing the work, not where the company is headquartered.
@23 is correct. California only tries to tax you if you're physically working IN California. They can't tax you just because the company is based there. That would be ridiculous - imagine if every remote worker had to pay taxes in their company's state plus their own!
Hey Diego! As someone who recently went through a similar multi-state move situation, I wanted to share a few practical tips that might help you navigate this. First, definitely gather all your documentation showing when you established Tennessee residency - lease agreement, driver's license change date, voter registration, etc. This timeline will be crucial for determining which state has taxing rights on your capital gains. Since you mentioned you're 22 and just starting out, there's a good chance your total income might qualify you for the 0% federal long-term capital gains rate (currently applies if your taxable income is under $47,025 for single filers in 2024). That could save you a significant amount on the federal side. For the state piece, you'll likely need to file as a part-year resident in Maryland for the period you lived there, but the capital gains realized after establishing Tennessee residency should escape state taxation entirely since Tennessee doesn't tax capital gains. One thing I'd recommend is keeping detailed records of when you physically moved, when you changed your address with various institutions, and especially when you updated your information with your brokerage. The timing of these changes relative to when you sold your stocks will matter if either state questions your residency status. Also, double-check that your brokerage has your current Tennessee address on file - you don't want tax documents being sent to your old Maryland address next year!
The W-9 is actually not the correct form for 401k withdrawals. You should be filling out a distribution form from your 401k provider, not a W-9. A W-9 is generally used for independent contractors or when you're receiving certain types of payments where the payer needs your taxpayer info.
That's not entirely accurate. While the actual distribution requires its own form from the plan administrator, sometimes brokerages or financial institutions require a W-9 to set up an account for the funds or to process the transaction, especially if it's going to a new account. It's for their recordkeeping requirements.
I went through this exact same situation last year when I did a 401k withdrawal. The brokerage definitely can require a W-9 even though you're also filling out distribution paperwork with your plan administrator. It's because they need your taxpayer information on file for their own reporting requirements to the IRS. You're absolutely right to select "Individual/sole proprietor or single-member LLC" - that's the correct box for regular employees like us. The form language is confusing because it's designed to cover multiple scenarios, but as an individual taxpayer (not a corporation or partnership), that first option is what you want. One thing I wish someone had told me - make sure you understand exactly how much tax will be withheld from your withdrawal. The default withholding might not be enough to cover what you'll actually owe, especially if the withdrawal bumps you into a higher tax bracket. I ended up owing more at tax time because I didn't plan for that properly.
Mei Liu
Have you checked your transcript on the IRS website? Sometimes that shows codes and pending actions that the "Where's My Refund" tool doesn't show.
0 coins
Liam O'Sullivan
ā¢This!! š The transcripts show waaay more info than the refund tool. Look for codes like 570 (holds), 971 (notices), or 846 (refund issued). I figured out my refund was delayed because of a 570/971 combo which meant they were adjusting my refund amount.
0 coins
DeShawn Washington
I feel your frustration completely - being broke and waiting on money you desperately need is one of the most stressful situations. A few things that might help while you're waiting: 1. Contact your utility companies and landlord ASAP to explain the situation. Many have hardship programs or will work with you if you communicate proactively rather than just going silent. 2. Check if your state has emergency rental assistance programs - many still have COVID relief funds available for exactly this situation. 3. Look into local food banks and assistance programs to free up any money you do have for rent/utilities. 4. If you filed with a tax prep company, call them about the refund advance status - that's completely separate from your IRS processing timeline. The "still being processed" status is unfortunately the new normal this year, but hang in there. Most people are seeing movement around the 3-week mark, so you should hopefully see progress soon. Document everything about your financial hardship in case you need to escalate to the Tax Advocate Service.
0 coins