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This isn't directly about loans vs payment plans, but make sure you consider whether you qualify for any penalty abatement! If this is your first time owing taxes, you might qualify for First Time Penalty Abatement which could save you a decent amount. You'd still have to pay the base tax and interest, but it could remove the failure-to-pay penalties. I saved almost $800 this way when I owed taxes a couple years ago. You can request it after you've paid the tax in full or while you're on a payment plan.
Would this work if I've had small penalties before for late filing but never something this substantial?
Unfortunately, qualifying for First Time Penalty Abatement requires that you haven't had any significant penalties in the past three tax years. Since you mentioned having late filing penalties, you might not qualify - but it depends on how long ago those were. If those late filing penalties were from more than 3 years ago, you could still qualify. It's always worth asking about when you talk to the IRS. The worst they can say is no.
I went through this exact situation two years ago owing about $8,200 to the IRS. After running all the numbers, I ended up choosing the personal loan route at 5.9% interest, and I'm glad I did. Here's what tipped the scales for me: The IRS charges 8% interest PLUS the 0.5% monthly failure-to-pay penalty, which effectively made my total cost around 14% annually when you factor everything in. The personal loan was clearly cheaper mathematically. But beyond just the numbers, having the IRS debt completely cleared gave me huge peace of mind. No more worry about future refunds being seized, no dealing with IRS correspondence, and my credit actually improved from properly managing the personal loan payments. One thing I'd recommend - if you do go the personal loan route, make sure you can comfortably afford the monthly payments. Don't stretch yourself thin just to avoid the IRS. The IRS is actually pretty reasonable to work with if you communicate with them, while missing payments on a personal loan can hurt your credit fast. Also, shop around for the best loan rate if you haven't already. I was initially offered 7.8% but found a better rate with a credit union at 5.9%. That small difference saved me hundreds over the life of the loan.
This is really helpful perspective! I'm curious - when you shopped around for better loan rates, did you do hard credit pulls at multiple places? I'm worried about hurting my credit score with too many inquiries while I'm trying to figure out the best option. Also, how long did it take you to pay off the personal loan compared to what an IRS payment plan timeline would have been?
Has anyone actually fought one of these CP162 notices and WON without paying anything? I'm in almost the exact same situation with my research partnership LLC. We formed it in 2020 for an NSF SBIR grant application, have had zero income, and just got hit with a $2,100 penalty. I'm wondering if I should just pay it to avoid further issues or if it's worth fighting.
I successfully had my entire CP162 penalty abated through the reasonable cause process. The key was being able to speak directly with an IRS agent (used Claimyr to get through after hours of failed attempts). The agent confirmed that they frequently approve abatement requests for partnerships formed for specific purposes with no income, especially when it's a first-time issue. Make sure you emphasize that you formed the LLC specifically for grant applications, had zero income, and didn't realize filing was required in this situation. Also stress that you've now filed the return (if you have) and understand the requirements going forward.
Thanks for sharing your experience! That's encouraging to hear. I think I'll try the reasonable cause route rather than just paying it. We definitely formed our LLC solely for the grant application process and had no business activity otherwise. I'll make sure to emphasize that we've now filed and understand the requirements going forward. Did you submit your reasonable cause request by mail or were you able to handle it entirely during your phone call with the IRS agent?
I went through this exact situation last year with my research LLC! Got a CP162 for $1,470 even though we had zero income and I was certain we filed on time. Turns out there was a processing error on the IRS side - our return was received but not properly recorded. Here's what worked for me: I gathered all my documentation (proof of timely filing from our accountant, copies of certified mail receipts, etc.) and submitted a written reasonable cause request. I emphasized that the LLC was formed solely for grant applications, had no income or business activity, and that we genuinely believed we had fulfilled all filing requirements. The key is to be very specific about your circumstances. Mention that it's an NSF grant application vehicle, detail your minimal expenses, and stress that this is your first penalty issue. I also included a timeline showing when we filed versus the deadline to demonstrate our good faith effort to comply. It took about 6 weeks, but they completely abated the penalty. Don't just pay it - you have legitimate grounds for relief based on what you've described. The IRS is actually pretty reasonable about these situations when you can show it was a genuine misunderstanding rather than willful non-compliance.
I'm not convinced these reviews without additional information are as routine as people claim. My brother had the same status last year and ended up waiting 6 months for his refund. The IRS never contacted him, but the review dragged on. These 'average' processing times people quote don't account for outliers. I'd prepare for the possibility of an extended delay, especially if you claimed any credits or have self-employment income that might trigger additional scrutiny.
I've seen dozens of these cases resolve much faster than the worst-case scenarios. Reviews without document requests typically fall into three categories: 1) Identity verification (2-3 weeks), 2) Income verification against employer records (3-5 weeks), or 3) Credit eligibility verification (4-8 weeks). Compared to audit situations that can take 6+ months, yours is likely in a much better position. One client of mine had almost identical circumstances and received their refund in 32 days from the review start date.
This breakdown of the three review categories is really helpful! Do you know if there's any way to determine which category your return falls into based on the transcript codes or other indicators? I'm trying to figure out if my situation is closer to the 2-3 week timeline or the longer 4-8 week range.
@Zara Shah Great question! From what I ve'observed, you can get clues from your transcript codes and timing. Identity verification reviews the (fastest ones usually) show up within days of e-filing and often have TC 971 notices. Income verification typically appears 1-2 weeks after filing when the IRS cross-references with W-2/1099 data. Credit verification reviews often happen with returns claiming EITC, CTC, or education credits and may show additional TC codes in the 700s range. Check when your review status first appeared and what credits you claimed - that should give you a better sense of which category you re'in!
According to IRS Publication 1345 and the Refund Disclosure Standards, many tax preparers are not clearly disclosing the full cost of refund advances. The National Consumer Law Center found that the effective APR on these products often exceeds 200% when calculated properly. If you're expecting a $3,200 refund and need $1,200 now, you'd be much better served by filing through IRS Free File and seeking a small personal loan for the interim period.
As someone who's been through this exact situation multiple times with my rideshare income, I'd strongly recommend against the tax refund advances. Last year I almost went with H&R Block's "0% interest" option until I did the math - paying $79 in prep fees to get $2,800 two weeks early works out to an effective APR of over 100%! Instead, I ended up using my credit union's emergency loan program at 12% APR, which cost me only $24 for the month I needed to bridge the gap. The key is to file your return ASAP using IRS Free File (which handles Schedule C for gig work just fine) and get that direct deposit set up. Most people don't realize the IRS actually processes returns much faster than the "up to 21 days" they advertise - I typically see my refund in 10-14 days when I file electronically in early February. If you absolutely can't get alternative financing, at least shop around beyond those big three. Some smaller tax prep chains offer better deals, and definitely avoid any "refund transfer" fees on top of the prep costs.
Nia Davis
OMG I'm freaking out because I NEED my refund by next Friday to cover my property tax payment!! š« I've been checking WMR obsessively and now it's down when I need it most! I filed on February 12th and it's been 24 days with no updates. Now I can't even see if there's movement! Has anyone who filed around the same time received their refund yet? I'm so stressed I can barely sleep!
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Mateo Perez
ā¢Thank you for sharing this - makes me feel less alone in my tax anxiety!
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Aisha Rahman
ā¢Did you claim any credits on your return? I've heard that can slow things down significantly.
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Aiden Chen
I feel your pain! I've been through this exact same situation before. The WMR outages are incredibly frustrating, especially when you're counting on that refund for important payments. A few things that might help ease your stress: First, the 21-day processing window is just an estimate - many refunds actually take 2-4 weeks, so you're still within normal timeframes. Second, if you claimed EITC or Child Tax Credit, those returns are held until mid-February by law, which can add extra processing time. Third, try checking your bank account directly - sometimes the refund deposits before WMR even updates! If you're really pressed for time, you might want to call the IRS directly (though expect long wait times) to get a real status update. Hang in there - the system being down doesn't mean anything is wrong with your refund!
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