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I'm dealing with something similar right now. My long-time tax preparer retired and the new firm wants me to sign what they call a "client engagement letter" but it's basically the same thing you're describing. From what I've researched, these agreements became more common after some high-profile lawsuits where clients sued preparers for issues that weren't really the preparer's fault. The agreements help clarify who's responsible for what. That said, I'd definitely read it carefully before signing. Make sure it doesn't completely absolve them of responsibility for their own errors or negligence. A fair agreement should protect them from liability when you provide wrong information, but they should still be accountable for their own mistakes. Has your tax guy given you any guidance on what changed since the sale? Might be worth asking him directly about the new policies.
That's really helpful context about the lawsuits driving these agreements. I haven't had a chance to talk to my tax guy yet since he's been swamped with tax season, but I'll definitely ask him when things calm down. You're right about reading it carefully - I've been going through it line by line and most of it seems reasonable. There's one clause about "client acknowledges preparer is not liable for penalties or interest resulting from client-provided information" which makes sense, but then it gets a bit vague about what constitutes "client-provided information." Did your engagement letter have specific language about audit support? That's one thing I want to make sure is covered since my previous preparer always said he'd help if I got audited.
Yes, my engagement letter does include audit support - it specifies that they'll represent me for any issues directly related to their preparation of my return at no additional charge. However, if the audit reveals issues with prior years they didn't prepare, or if I failed to provide complete information, then there are additional fees. Regarding that vague language about "client-provided information" - I'd definitely ask for clarification on that. In my letter, they defined it pretty clearly as any documents, records, or verbal information I give them. The key thing is making sure they're still liable if they misinterpret or incorrectly enter information you provided accurately. One thing I learned is that you can often negotiate these agreements if something seems unreasonable. They're not set in stone, especially if you've been a long-term client. Worth having that conversation with your tax guy when he has more time.
I went through something very similar when my CPA of 15 years sold to a regional chain. The new firm immediately sent me a 4-page "service agreement" that felt more like legal protection than a service contract. After reading through it and doing some research, I learned these agreements became standard practice around 2018-2020, largely due to increased litigation against tax preparers. The COVID-era changes to tax laws also made preparers more cautious about liability. The key things I looked for in mine were: 1) Clear definition of what constitutes "reasonable care" on their part, 2) Specific language about correcting their own errors at no charge, 3) Audit representation clauses, and 4) Data security provisions. My advice? Don't sign anything that makes you uncomfortable, but also recognize that most reputable firms won't work without one nowadays. If the language seems too broad or one-sided, ask for modifications. I successfully negotiated two clauses in mine that were too vague about their responsibilities. The transition from small independent preparers to larger firms definitely changes the dynamic, but it doesn't necessarily mean worse service - just more formalized processes.
One more thing to consider - if your income is under $30k, check if you qualify for any tax credits related to charitable giving. Some states have credits (not deductions) for donations that apply regardless of whether you take standard deduction. The 1098-C might be needed to document eligibility for those. I took standard deduction last year but still got a small credit on my state return for my car donation.
Which states offer this? I'm in Texas and wondering if we have anything like that. Donated a truck last year but didn't bother with the 1098-C because I always take standard.
Unfortunately, Texas doesn't have a state income tax, so there wouldn't be state-level credits for charitable donations there. The states that typically offer some form of charitable tax credits even when taking the standard deduction include Colorado, Arizona, Minnesota, and a few others. For folks in Texas, the main benefit of having the 1098-C would be for federal purposes - either in case your situation changes and itemizing becomes advantageous, or for documentation if you're ever audited. The IRS tends to look more closely at vehicle donations, especially those valued over $5,000.
I'd strongly recommend getting the 1098-C form, even though you're taking the standard deduction. Here's why: The IRS has specific rules for vehicle donations over $500 - they require the 1098-C for proper documentation, regardless of whether you itemize or not. Since your CR-V is worth $6,500, this puts you well into the range where the IRS expects official documentation. Also, consider that your financial situation could change. Maybe you'll have unexpected medical expenses later in the year, or other deductible expenses that could make itemizing worthwhile. Having the 1098-C gives you that option. From an audit protection standpoint, vehicle donations are one of the areas the IRS scrutinizes more closely. Having the official form filed with the IRS creates a paper trail that protects you, even if you don't claim the deduction this year. The only "cost" is sharing your SSN with a legitimate charity, which they're required to keep secure anyway. There's really no downside to getting proper documentation for such a significant donation.
Filed my RI return on 2/4 and still waiting too! Really appreciate everyone sharing their timelines here - it's way more helpful than the vague info on the state website. Sounds like we're all in the same boat with early February filers. At least knowing they're working through late January gives me some hope I'll see mine in the next few weeks. The waiting game is brutal when you're counting on that refund! š
Totally agree! This thread has been way more informative than anything I've found on the official RI site. Filed mine 2/7 so sounds like we're all in that same early February batch. The waiting really is brutal, especially when you have bills to pay! At least it sounds like they're staying on track this year unlike the disaster that was 2024. Fingers crossed we all see movement in the next couple weeks! š¤
Filed mine on 2/2 and got my RI refund yesterday via direct deposit! Took exactly 6 weeks. For everyone still waiting on early February filings, it sounds like you're getting close based on what others are saying about them processing late January returns now. I know the wait is stressful but they do seem to be moving at a steady pace this year. Hang in there! š
Has your daughter checked if her identity might have been compromised? The IRS usually issues IP PINs when there's been some kind of identity theft concern. The fact that she got one automatically and now it's not working properly might mean someone tried to file using her SSN. It might be worth checking her credit report at annualcreditreport.com (the official free site) just to make sure nothing fishy is going on. Sometimes resolving the underlying identity issues helps resolve the PIN problems too.
This is a really important point. IP PINs are typically issued for identity theft protection. OP should definitely check if there were any suspicious tax filings attempted with the daughter's SSN.
This is really good advice that I hadn't thought of! My daughter is only 19 and has been pretty careful with her personal information, but you're right that the IP PIN being issued in the first place suggests the IRS detected some kind of risk. I'll have her check her credit report right away. If someone did try to file fraudulently with her SSN, that could definitely explain why the legitimate PIN isn't working properly in the system. It might also mean we need to take additional steps beyond just getting a new PIN. Thanks for pointing this out - it's scary to think about but better to know sooner rather than later!
I went through almost the exact same situation with my 20-year-old son last year! The IP PIN rejection loop is incredibly frustrating, especially when you know you entered everything correctly. One thing that helped us was requesting a "wage and income transcript" from the IRS online (or by calling) to see exactly how they have your daughter's information on file. Sometimes there are small discrepancies in how names, addresses, or even birth dates are recorded that cause the IP PIN validation to fail. Also, when you do call that specialized number Gabriel mentioned (800-908-4490), ask them specifically about "IP PIN regeneration" - sometimes the original PIN gets invalidated in their system due to processing delays or other technical issues, especially when the letter was sent so late like yours was. If you're running short on time before the extension deadline, definitely consider the paper filing backup plan that others mentioned. I know it's slower for refunds, but at least you'll meet the deadline and avoid any penalties while they sort out the electronic filing issues. The identity theft angle Amara brought up is also worth investigating - my son discovered a fraudulent filing attempt from two years prior that we never knew about, which explained why he got the IP PIN in the first place.
Giovanni Rossi
Has anyone considered whether this transaction might also trigger Form 8865 requirements instead of Form 926? If the foreign business is structured as a partnership rather than a corporation, Form 8865 would be the correct form. OP, what's the legal structure of your foreign business?
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Fatima Al-Mansour
ā¢This is a great point. I went down this exact rabbit hole last year. The determining factor is whether the entity is treated as a corporation or partnership for US tax purposes, which doesn't always match how it's categorized in the foreign country. Drove me insane trying to figure it out!
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Isabella Costa
Great question about entity classification! You're absolutely right that this is crucial. @Carmen Ortiz - you mentioned it's a "family business overseas" but the specific legal structure matters enormously for US tax purposes. If it's organized as a corporation in the foreign country, you'll likely need Form 926. But if it's a partnership, LLC, or similar pass-through entity, then Form 8865 would be the correct form instead. The tricky part is that some foreign entities can elect how they want to be treated for US tax purposes (called "check-the-box" elections), so even a foreign LLC might be treated as a corporation if an election was made. Do you know what type of entity it is under local law? And more importantly, do you know if any elections have been made for US tax treatment? This will determine which forms you need to file.
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NeonNebula
ā¢This is such an important distinction that I completely overlooked initially! I'm actually not 100% sure about the exact legal structure - I know it's registered as a company in the local jurisdiction, but you're right that the US tax treatment could be different. I should probably dig into the incorporation documents to see exactly what type of entity it is and whether any elections were made for US purposes. Would the wrong form filing be considered a failure to file the correct form, or would the IRS give some credit for attempting to report the transaction? I'm worried I might pick the wrong one!
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