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Has anyone here successfully claimed the child tax credit using just an ITIN for their kid? I heard some tax credits are restricted if your dependent doesn't have an SSN.
This is important to know - there's a difference between credits. For the Child Tax Credit, your child needs an SSN to qualify for the full amount. With just an ITIN, they only qualify for the non-refundable portion (up to $1,500) called the Credit for Other Dependents, not the full Child Tax Credit. This is one of those annoying distinctions the IRS makes.
I went through this exact situation last year with my spouse and child during their green card process. You can absolutely claim your child as a dependent using an ITIN - don't wait for the SSN! A few things that helped me: First, apply for the ITIN as early as possible since it takes 7-11 weeks. You can file Form W-7 with your tax return. Second, keep detailed records of all support you're providing (housing, food, medical, etc.) since you'll need to prove you provide over half their support. For your hypothetical overseas scenario - yes, you could still claim them as dependents even if they were living abroad, as long as they meet the dependency tests and have ITINs. The key is that as a US service member, your family members can qualify as residents for tax purposes even when physically overseas. One gotcha I learned the hard way: with just an ITIN, your child qualifies for the Credit for Other Dependents ($500) rather than the full Child Tax Credit. Once they get their SSN, you can claim the full amount. But definitely don't miss out on claiming them altogether while waiting for the immigration process!
If all else fails and you can't figure out the exact amount, make a good faith estimate based on how many hours you worked and what your hourly rate was. The IRS mainly cares that you're making an honest effort to report your income. Just document how you came up with your estimate (like "worked approx 20 hours per week for 25 weeks at $15/hr = $7,500") and keep that with your tax records.
I'd definitely recommend taking action sooner rather than later on this. From what you've described, it sounds like you were technically an employee (you asked to be put in the payroll system) rather than a contractor, so Form 8919 is probably your best bet like others mentioned. One thing to keep in mind - even if the business closed down, you might still be able to get some documentation. Try checking with your state's Secretary of State office or Department of Labor to see if they have any records of the business. Sometimes when businesses close, there are still ways to track down contact information for the former owner through business registration records. Also, start gathering any evidence you have now - old bank deposits, text messages about work schedules, anything that shows you worked there and roughly how much you earned. The IRS appreciates when taxpayers make a good faith effort to comply, especially when the situation wasn't their fault. Better to file with an estimate and be upfront about the situation than to not file at all.
I had this exact same question last year! An IRA distribution is literally ANY money coming out of an IRA account - doesn't matter where it goes after. So yes, when u move $ from TIRA to Roth, that's a distribution. The trick is the tax treatment: - Regular withdrawal to your bank account = distribution (taxable + maybe penalties) - TIRA to Roth = distribution + conversion (taxable but no penalties) - IRA to IRA rollover = distribution but not taxable if done properly Report the whole amount on line 4a, and the taxable part on 4b. For backdoor Roth, those are usually the same number unless u had non-deductible contributions.
Hey Sean! I totally get the confusion - I was in the same boat when I first started doing my own taxes. Here's the simple breakdown: Yes, your TIRA to Roth conversion IS considered an IRA distribution and goes on line 4a. Think of it this way - money left your Traditional IRA account, so that's a "distribution" regardless of where it went next. For a backdoor Roth conversion: - Line 4a = total amount that came out of your TIRA - Line 4b = taxable portion of that amount If you made deductible contributions to your TIRA, then 4a and 4b will be the same (fully taxable). If you made non-deductible contributions, you'll need Form 8606 to calculate what portion is taxable. The key thing to remember: an IRA distribution is ANY money leaving an IRA account - whether you pocket it, convert it, or roll it over. The tax treatment varies, but they're all technically distributions. Don't stress too much about triggering an audit - as long as you report the numbers from your 1099-R correctly, you should be fine. The IRA custodian already sent those same numbers to the IRS anyway!
This is such a helpful explanation, Paloma! I'm dealing with a similar situation and your breakdown really clarifies things. One quick follow-up question - when you mention the 1099-R, should I expect to receive one for my backdoor Roth conversion? My IRA custodian hasn't sent me anything yet and I'm starting to worry I missed something important. Also, is there a deadline for when they have to send these forms out?
Great question about this arrangement! I'm dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share some insights from my research and experience with family property tax strategies. One thing that hasn't been fully explored here is the potential for Section 280A issues if you go the rental route. Since your mom is a family member and you're not charging actual rent, the IRS could potentially challenge the "rental" classification under the personal use rules. The key is demonstrating legitimate business purpose and maintaining arm's-length documentation, even within the family. Also worth considering - if your mom's $130k contribution is substantial relative to the total purchase price (which it is at about 37%), you might want to explore treating this as a partial ownership interest rather than a gift or loan. This could potentially allow her to claim her proportional share of property tax deductions on her own return, which might be more valuable than the rental deductions for you given the passive loss limitations at your income level. Have you looked into whether your state offers any property tax deferrals or reductions for seniors? Some states allow property taxes to be deferred until sale or transfer, which could provide ongoing cash flow benefits even if the initial tax strategies don't work out as planned. The Medicare Part B premium point raised earlier is crucial - definitely verify how any reported rental income might affect her IRMAA (Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount) before implementing any strategy.
This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! The Section 280A concern is something I definitely need to research more - I hadn't considered how the personal use rules might apply even with proper documentation. The partial ownership angle is intriguing too. If mom gets a 37% ownership interest proportional to her contribution, would that allow her to deduct 37% of the property taxes on her return? Given that she's likely in a much lower tax bracket than OP, those deductions might not be as valuable, but it could simplify the overall structure and avoid some of the complexity around rental treatment. I'm curious about one thing though - if we go the partial ownership route, how does that affect OP's ability to claim mortgage interest deductions? Would he only be able to deduct interest on the portion he "owns" or could he still deduct the full mortgage interest since he's the only one on the loan? Also wondering about your state property tax deferral suggestion - that sounds like it could provide real ongoing savings. Do you know if those programs typically have income limits or asset tests that might disqualify someone in this situation?
This is such a thoughtful way to support your mom! I went through something similar when my father needed to relocate for health reasons. One strategy that worked well for us was establishing a formal caregiving agreement alongside the housing arrangement. Since you mentioned your mom is in her early 80s, you might be able to document some of your time spent helping her with daily activities, medical appointments, etc. as caregiving services. This creates legitimate business expenses you can deduct if you treat the property as rental - things like mileage for driving her to appointments, costs for home modifications for accessibility, even a portion of your time at a reasonable hourly rate. The key is keeping detailed records of the care you provide and treating it like a real business arrangement. This adds substance to the rental classification and gives you additional deductions beyond just the property expenses. It also helps justify the below-market rent situation since you're providing valuable services in exchange. Just make sure any caregiving payments stay within reasonable bounds for your area - the IRS will scrutinize family arrangements, but if you can show legitimate value being provided, it strengthens the overall tax strategy considerably.
This caregiving agreement approach is brilliant! I hadn't thought about how providing care services could help justify the rental arrangement and create additional legitimate deductions. The documentation aspect seems key - do you have any suggestions on what kind of records worked best for you? I'm thinking a simple log of hours spent on different activities, but wondering if there are specific forms or templates that help establish the business nature of the arrangement. Also curious about the hourly rate calculation - did you base it on local home health aide rates or use some other benchmark? I want to make sure everything is defensible if questioned, but also maximize the legitimate value of services being provided. The mileage deduction for medical appointments is especially appealing since those trips add up quickly. Did you track those separately from other caregiving-related travel, or just lump it all together under the business expense category?
Zara Khan
I used TurboTax's refund advance two years in a row and can share some insights that might help with your decision. With your situation - three kids and historically getting around $8500 back - you're in a strong position for approval. What worked in my favor was being upfront about my expected refund amount and making sure all my documentation was accurate. Since you've been with TurboTax for years, they have your filing pattern on record which definitely helps. I had a credit score around 580 and still got approved for $3200 out of the $4000 maximum. The timing aspect is crucial since you mentioned needing money ASAP. In my experience, TurboTax's approval was faster than expected - I applied on a Tuesday evening and had the funds via direct deposit by Thursday morning. H&R Block might be $500 less, but if you need every dollar for your family emergency, that difference matters. One thing I learned: they do verify your income information pretty thoroughly, so double-check that your W-2 amounts match exactly what you enter. Any discrepancies can trigger manual review which adds 24-48 hours to the process. Given your consistent filing history with TurboTax and the urgency of your situation, I'd stick with them for the higher advance amount. The extra $500 could make a real difference for your family right now. Best of luck getting through this tough time!
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Nathan Kim
ā¢Thanks for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who got approved with a similar credit score situation. I'm curious about the verification process you mentioned - when they check your W-2 amounts, is that something that happens automatically in the background, or do they actually ask you to upload documents? I want to make sure I have everything ready to go to avoid any delays. Also, did you notice if filing earlier in the tax season (like right when it opens) affects approval chances or timing at all?
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Faith Kingston
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