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Anybody know if there's a specific IRS form for requesting penalty abatement for Form 8938 penalties? Or do you just write a letter explaining the reasonable cause?
There's no specific form for requesting penalty abatement for Form 8938. You'd include a detailed reasonable cause statement with your amended return explaining why the form wasn't filed originally. Make it clear, specific, and include any supporting documentation (like emails from advisors who gave incorrect advice).
I've handled several similar cases with international students, and your approach sounds solid. One thing I'd add - make sure to document the timeline carefully. When did she receive the bad advice, when did she discover the requirement, and when is she coming forward? The IRS likes to see that taxpayers acted promptly once they became aware of their obligations. Also consider having her write a personal statement (in her own words) explaining her situation as a student, her reliance on university advisors, and her good faith intent to comply. Sometimes these personal narratives carry more weight than just the technical reasonable cause arguments. The fact that there's no actual tax due is huge in your favor. The IRS is generally much more forgiving when it's purely a reporting issue without tax avoidance. I'd be optimistic about getting the penalties waived, especially if you present it well.
My accountant told me it's usually cleaner to just form a new LLC for real estate investments rather than repurposing an old one, especially if the old one was ever used for active business operations. The filing fees aren't that expensive compared to the headache of explaining the transition to banks, insurance companies, etc.
Completely agree with this. I tried reusing an old LLC for a different purpose and ended up with weird questions during an insurance audit because they had records of the previous business activity. Cost me more in time explaining everything than if I'd just paid the $125 to form a new entity.
I'd lean toward forming a new LLC specifically for your real estate venture. While reusing your old LLC is technically possible, you'll need to consider several factors that could make it more trouble than it's worth: 1. **State compliance**: Check if your dormant LLC has missed any annual reports or franchise taxes. Many states require these even for inactive entities, and you might face penalties or need to pay back fees. 2. **Clean slate benefits**: A new LLC gives you a fresh start with an operating agreement tailored specifically for real estate holding, without any language or history tied to your consulting business. 3. **Lender preferences**: While most banks will work with existing LLCs, some commercial lenders prefer entities with clear, single-purpose histories for real estate loans. It just eliminates questions during underwriting. 4. **Future complications**: If you ever need to explain the entity's history to partners, investors, or in legal situations, having a straightforward "formed for real estate" story is much cleaner. The cost difference between reactivating/repurposing your old LLC versus forming a new one is usually minimal when you factor in potential compliance catch-up costs. I'd recommend getting quotes for both options from your state filing office and making the decision based on total cost and complexity.
This is really solid advice! I'm curious about the state compliance piece - is there a reliable way to check if an LLC has missed filings across different states? I have a similar situation with an old LLC that was formed in Delaware but I moved to Texas, and I'm not sure if there are any outstanding requirements I need to catch up on before I can use it for anything new.
Has anyone here used 1031 exchanges for inherited property? I know OP mentioned using funds for personal residence and debt, but just wondering if that's an option for deferring gains if they wanted to remain in real estate investing?
I did a 1031 exchange with an inherited property last year. The key requirement is that the property must be held for investment or business purposes - sounds like that might apply if OP has been renting it out. The tricky part is that you have to identify potential replacement properties within 45 days of selling and complete the purchase within 180 days. Also, you MUST use a qualified intermediary to hold the funds - you can't touch the money yourself during the process.
One important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - since you've held this inherited property for 8 years, make sure to check if you've been claiming depreciation on it as a rental property on your tax returns. If so, you'll owe depreciation recapture tax on that amount (taxed at 25%) in addition to the capital gains tax on the appreciation. Also, regarding your debt payoff strategy - while paying off $85K in debt is generally smart, consider the interest rates. If your debt is low-interest (like a mortgage under 4%), you might be better off investing some of those proceeds rather than paying it all off, especially since you'll be taking a tax hit on the sale anyway. For the new home purchase, financing vs. paying cash won't affect your capital gains tax liability from the inherited property sale - that tax is based solely on the sale transaction itself. Choose your financing based on current interest rates, your cash flow needs, and other investment opportunities.
Setting up a separate bank account for your photo sales is also super helpful for keeping things organized. Most banks offer free student checking accounts, and this way you can keep all business transactions separate from personal ones. Makes it WAY easier at tax time and helps you track your actual profits more accurately. Plus, if your mom somehow sees your regular account, there won't be any suspicious transactions to explain!
As someone who's been through this exact situation, I want to emphasize something that might not be obvious: even though you're trying to keep this private from your mom, you still need to think about how this affects your overall tax situation. If your mom currently claims you as a dependent on her tax return, your photography income could potentially affect that. Once you start earning significant income, there are rules about whether you can still be claimed as a dependent. You might want to have a conversation with her (without getting into specifics about what you're selling) about potentially filing your own return this year. Also, don't forget about estimated quarterly payments if you start making decent money. The general rule is if you'll owe more than $1,000 in taxes at the end of the year, you should be making quarterly payments to avoid penalties. You can calculate this easily once you know your approximate income. One last tip: consider opening a business savings account too, not just checking. Set aside about 25-30% of your income for taxes so you're not scrambling come tax time. Self-employment tax plus regular income tax can add up faster than you'd expect!
This is such important advice about the dependent status! I hadn't even considered how my income might affect my mom's taxes. The quarterly payment thing is especially helpful - I definitely don't want to get hit with penalties because I didn't plan ahead. Setting aside 25-30% seems like a lot, but I guess it's better to have too much saved than not enough. Do you know if there's a specific income threshold where the dependent thing becomes an issue? I'm trying to figure out how much I could potentially make before it becomes a problem.
Sayid Hassan
One warning about the S Corp mileage situation - if you don't do this correctly, it can be a huge audit flag! My brother-in-law got audited specifically because he was deducting mileage directly on his S Corp return without an accountable plan. The IRS disallowed all his mileage deductions for 3 years and hit him with penalties. Make sure whatever approach you take is properly documented. If you're using the accountable plan method, you need contemporaneous mileage logs (not created after the fact) and regular reimbursement payments that are clearly identified in your books.
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Rachel Tao
β’Did your brother-in-law use some kind of app to track mileage? I've been using MileIQ but wondering if there are better options that specifically handle the S Corp situation.
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Diego Vargas
This is exactly the situation I found myself in last year! The S Corp election creates this weird dynamic where you're simultaneously the owner and an employee, which definitely complicates vehicle deductions. Your accountant is 100% correct about needing the accountable plan. I learned this the hard way when I tried to just deduct mileage directly on my S Corp return and my CPA had to amend it. The key thing to understand is that once you elect S Corp status, the IRS treats you as an employee for certain purposes, and employees can't deduct unreimbursed business expenses on their personal returns anymore (thanks to the 2017 tax law changes). Here's what I did to set up my accountable plan: I created a simple written policy stating that my S Corp would reimburse me at the IRS standard mileage rate for documented business travel. I keep a detailed mileage log with date, destination, business purpose, and miles driven. Then I submit monthly reimbursement requests to my S Corp with supporting documentation. The reimbursements aren't taxable income to me, and my S Corp gets the full deduction. It's actually more tax-efficient than trying to deduct it personally would have been. The paperwork is a bit annoying, but it's worth it to stay compliant and maximize the tax benefits.
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Olivia Martinez
β’Thanks for sharing your experience with this! As someone new to S Corp elections, this whole employee vs owner distinction is really confusing. When you submit your monthly reimbursement requests, do you need to process them through payroll or can you just cut yourself a regular business check? Also, do you need to maintain separate bank accounts or documentation to keep the reimbursements clearly distinct from your regular salary and distributions?
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