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Does anyone know if the tax treatment is different for RSUs vs stock options? My company gives us both and I'm completely lost about how to handle either of them on my taxes.
Yes, they're taxed very differently! For RSUs, you're taxed on the full value when they vest (ordinary income). For stock options, if they're NSOs (Non-qualified Stock Options), you're taxed when you exercise them on the difference between the strike price and fair market value. If they're ISOs (Incentive Stock Options), there's no regular tax at exercise (though there might be AMT implications), and you're only taxed when you sell the shares. RSUs are simpler in some ways because there's only one tax event if you sell immediately. Options get complicated fast, especially with AMT calculations for ISOs.
@Liam Sullivan - I went through this exact same confusion last year! Here's what I learned the hard way: First, your RSU income should definitely be on your W-2 in Box 1, combined with your regular salary. It won't be listed separately, which is why you might have missed it. When RSUs vest, they're treated as regular compensation income, not as a special type of income. The process is actually simpler than it seems: 1. The fair market value of your RSUs when they vested gets included in your W-2 Box 1 (wages) 2. Any taxes withheld appear in Box 2 (federal income tax withheld) 3. You report this on your 1040 just like regular wages - no special forms needed for the vesting event itself If you're absolutely certain the RSU income isn't on your W-2, that's a red flag. Your employer is required to include it. I'd recommend calling your payroll department again and specifically asking them to walk you through where the RSU income appears on your W-2. Also check if you received any supplemental documents from your company or brokerage that show the vesting details - these can help you verify the amounts even if they're combined on your W-2. The good news is once you locate it on your W-2, reporting it is straightforward since it's just regular income!
This is really helpful! I'm also dealing with RSUs for the first time and was wondering - what if my company did automatic sell-to-cover for taxes when the RSUs vested? I never actually received all the shares because some were automatically sold to pay the withholding taxes. Does this change how I report things, or is it still just treated as regular W-2 income? I'm trying to figure out if I need to report the automatic sale as a separate transaction somewhere, or if it's all just rolled into the W-2 reporting that you described.
lmaooo liberty tax stays playing games wit ppls money. switched to HR block this year and way better experience ngl
maybe but at least they're upfront about it š
I used to work at a tax prep office and can confirm what Dylan said - Liberty Tax almost always takes their advance loan repayment from your federal refund first. They have to set up a temporary bank account during tax prep that intercepts your federal refund, deducts what you owe them, then deposits the remainder into your actual account. Your $800 state refund should come directly to you without any deductions. Just make sure to keep checking your account because sometimes the timing can be weird depending on when the IRS processes everything.
I've been a freelance developer for 8 years, and the SSTB classification has always been confusing. My accountant told me the key factor is what your clients are actually paying you for. If they're paying for a finished software product or implementation, you're generally not an SSTB. If they're paying primarily for your expertise and advice, that leans toward consulting. In my business, I make it very clear in contracts that clients are paying for development and implementation of software solutions. Any planning or advisory components are presented as necessary steps in the development process, not separate consulting services.
What software do you use to file your taxes? I've been using TurboTax Self-Employed but I'm not sure it handles this SSTB situation correctly.
I actually switched from TurboTax to a tax professional after my income exceeded $100k. Software like TurboTax can handle basic SSTB questions, but I found it wasn't nuanced enough for my situation where I have mixed service types. If you want to stick with software though, I've heard good things about H&R Block's self-employed option. It asks more detailed questions about your specific business activities to determine SSTB status rather than just asking what general industry you're in.
I went through this exact situation last year as a freelance developer making around $150k. After consulting with a CPA who specializes in tech businesses, here's what I learned: Software development itself is generally NOT considered an SSTB, but the devil is in the details of how you structure and describe your services. The IRS looks at the "principal purpose" of your business. If you're primarily creating software products, building applications, or implementing technical solutions, you're likely in the clear. However, be careful about how you market yourself and structure your contracts. Avoid terms like "consultant" or "advisory services" if possible. Instead, focus on language like "custom software development," "application implementation," or "technical solutions delivery." One thing that really helped me was keeping detailed time logs showing what percentage of my work was actual coding/development versus strategic planning or advice-giving. This documentation could be crucial if you're ever audited. At your income level of $145k, you're still well under the phase-out thresholds anyway, so even if some portion were considered SSTB, you'd likely still get most of the QBI benefits. But it's definitely worth getting this classification right for future years as your income grows.
This is really helpful advice, especially about the time logging! I'm just getting started as a freelance developer (about 6 months in) and making around $85k so far. I've been pretty loose with my contract language and definitely used "consulting" in a few places without thinking about the tax implications. Do you think it's worth going back and amending existing contracts with current clients to clean up the language? Or should I just focus on new contracts going forward? I'm worried about looking unprofessional if I ask to revise agreements we already signed. Also, for the time logging - do you use any specific software or just a simple spreadsheet? I want to start tracking this properly from the beginning.
I've been in a similar situation and it's incredibly frustrating! One thing that worked for me was calling around to smaller, local banks and credit unions in your area - they're often more flexible than the big chains. I found a small community bank that cashed my $3,200 refund check for just a $10 fee, even though I wasn't a customer. They required two forms of ID and had me fill out some paperwork, but it was totally worth it to avoid the crazy fees at check cashing places. Also, try calling the banks first before going in person - some have different policies for government checks that the tellers might not know about, but the managers do. Don't give up, there are options out there!
This is really helpful advice! I'm definitely going to start calling around to smaller banks and credit unions in my area. The idea of speaking to managers rather than just tellers makes a lot of sense - they would know the actual policies better. $10 for a $3,200 check is such a better deal than the percentage-based fees I was looking at. Did you have to provide any additional documentation besides the two forms of ID, or was that pretty much it? Really appreciate you sharing your experience!
I know this is a really frustrating situation! One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is trying check cashing places specifically that advertise "government checks" - they often have higher limits than regular retail stores. Places like Check Into Cash, ACE Cash Express, or Money Mart sometimes go up to $5k for tax refunds, though you'll pay around 2-4% in fees. Also, if you have any prepaid debit cards (like Green Dot or NetSpend), some of them allow you to deposit checks through their mobile apps with higher limits than traditional mobile banking. It's worth checking if you already have one of those cards sitting around. The mobile deposit might take a few days to clear but could be a good backup option!
Lorenzo McCormick
In our case, the trust paid the taxes before distributing to beneficiaries. Our accountant said it depends on whether the trust is a "simple" or "complex" trust for tax purposes. For us it was complex since it had the option to accumulate income. Ur trust might be different tho. The accountant said the $200k was technically a capital gain to the trust since it was essentially selling its right to the property. They said the trust's basis in the property was the important part in calculating how much of that $200k was actually taxable gain.
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Carmella Popescu
ā¢That's interesting - our family had almost the exact opposite experience. Our trust was deemed "simple" and passed all tax liability to us as beneficiaries. We each had to report our portion on our personal returns. Makes me wonder if the trusts were actually different or if we just got different tax advice? Tax pros - which approach is correct?
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Elijah Jackson
This is a really complex situation that highlights why trust taxation can be so tricky! Based on what you've described, there are several key factors that will determine the tax treatment: 1. **Trust Classification**: Whether your trust is "simple" (must distribute all income annually) or "complex" (can accumulate income) will largely determine who pays the tax. 2. **Nature of the Settlement**: Since this was malpractice insurance compensating for a lost property interest, it's likely treated as a capital transaction rather than ordinary income. The tax calculation would compare the settlement amount to your trust's basis in the lost 21% property interest. 3. **Trust Document Language**: The specific provisions in your trust document about how settlements and capital transactions are allocated between income and principal will be crucial. Given the $200,000 amount and complexity involved, I'd strongly recommend getting professional guidance from a CPA who specializes in trust taxation before making any distributions. They can review your trust document, determine the trust's basis in the lost property, and calculate the proper tax treatment. The good news is that if it's determined to be a recovery of basis (rather than a gain above basis), the tax impact could be minimal. But you definitely want to get this right before distributing the funds!
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