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Quick question for anyone who knows - does this mileage depreciation add-back work for other self-employed deductions too? I'm self-employed and take a home office deduction and some equipment depreciation. Would mortgage lenders add those back too?

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Yes, mortgage lenders typically add back most forms of depreciation when calculating qualifying income for self-employed borrowers. This includes vehicle depreciation (either through the standard mileage rate or actual expenses method), equipment/machinery depreciation, and sometimes even a portion of home office deductions. The concept is that depreciation is a "paper expense" that reduces your taxable income but doesn't actually reduce your cash flow in the current year. Lenders are trying to determine your actual ability to make monthly payments, so they focus on cash flow rather than taxable income. That's why most loan guidelines allow underwriters to add these expenses back.

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This is a really important topic that I think a lot of self-employed people struggle with. I've been through the mortgage process twice as a freelancer, and I want to emphasize something that some of the other commenters have touched on but bears repeating: there's a huge difference between legitimate business expenses and manufactured deductions. The math your mortgage officer explained is correct - lenders do add back depreciation components because they're non-cash expenses. But the key word here is "legitimate." If you're claiming mileage for trips you actually took for business purposes, that's fine. If you're making up miles or claiming personal trips as business trips just to qualify for a mortgage, that's fraud. I'd strongly recommend getting your actual business mileage properly documented and organized rather than trying to game the system. Keep detailed logs of business trips, save receipts, and make sure everything you claim is defensible if you're ever audited. The mortgage approval isn't worth the risk of IRS problems down the road. Also, consider working with a mortgage broker who specializes in self-employed borrowers - they understand these income calculations better than general loan officers and can help you present your financial picture accurately without cutting corners.

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This is really helpful advice, especially about working with a mortgage broker who specializes in self-employed borrowers. I'm just starting out as a freelancer and haven't bought a house yet, but I'm already worried about how my irregular income and business deductions will look to lenders. Do you have any recommendations for how to prepare for the mortgage process early on? Like, should I be keeping different records than what I normally would for just tax purposes? And how far in advance should I start working with a specialized broker - is it something you do months before you're ready to buy, or just when you find a house you want? I feel like there's so much conflicting advice out there about self-employment and mortgages, and stories like the original post make me nervous about making mistakes.

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To avoid this problem next year, I'd suggest printing and saving a complete copy of your tax return with all worksheets including 6251. I learned this lesson years ago and now keep both physical and digital copies of EVERY tax document. The digital copies go into a secure cloud storage folder so I can access them from anywhere when I need them.

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Ethan Clark

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This is a great reminder about record keeping! I'd also suggest setting up a dedicated email folder for tax documents and using it consistently each year. I forward all my tax-related emails (W-2s, 1099s, property tax statements, etc.) to a specific folder, and at year-end I download everything as PDFs. This way I have a complete digital trail that's searchable if I need to find specific information years later. I also use a simple spreadsheet to track key numbers from each year's return - things like AGI, taxable income, and yes, AMTI if applicable. Takes 10 minutes after filing but saves hours of hunting later.

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Might be an unpopular opinion, but I've claimed QBI on my single rental property for the past two years and haven't had any issues. I manage everything myself, find tenants, do minor repairs, etc. My accountant said as long as I can document my involvement, we can justify it as a business activity. IRS guidance on this isn't super clear, and there are different interpretations. The "trade or business" standard is somewhat subjective. If you're treating your rental like a business and not just a passive investment, there's an argument to be made. Just my experience though - your mileage may vary!

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Ella Russell

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I should caution that just because you haven't been audited doesn't necessarily mean your position is correct. The IRS audits less than 1% of returns, so many questionable positions go unchallenged simply due to limited resources. Your approach is definitely on the aggressive end of tax positions. If you were audited, you would need to demonstrate that your rental activities rise to the level of a Section 162 trade or business, which typically requires regular, continuous, and substantial activity. Documentation of your time and activities would be essential, as would proving you're not just performing typical landlord duties but actually operating a business. Not saying you're wrong - just that there's significant risk in this approach without solid documentation.

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Liam Murphy

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This has been a really enlightening discussion! As someone new to rental property ownership, I'm glad I found this thread before making any costly mistakes on my taxes. Based on everything I've read here, it seems like the conservative approach is the safest - assume single rental properties don't qualify for QBI unless you can clearly demonstrate you meet either the "trade or business" standard or the safe harbor requirements. The 250+ hours documentation requirement alone sounds like it would be difficult for most casual landlords to meet. I'm curious though - for those who do qualify, what kind of records do you keep to document your rental activities? I want to make sure I'm tracking everything properly from the start, even if I don't qualify for QBI right now. Maybe if I expand my rental portfolio in the future, I'll want to have that documentation history. Also, has anyone here actually been through an audit related to QBI claims on rental income? Would be interesting to hear what that process was like and what documentation the IRS focused on.

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Great question about record keeping! I've been tracking my rental activities for the past few years in anticipation of potentially expanding my portfolio. Here's what I document: 1. Time logs for all rental-related activities (showing for tenant, property maintenance coordination, bookkeeping, etc.) 2. Detailed records of any improvements or repairs I personally handle 3. Documentation of tenant screening processes and time spent 4. Records of property marketing efforts and time invested 5. Mileage logs for property visits 6. Correspondence with tenants, contractors, and service providers I use a simple spreadsheet with date, activity description, time spent, and any related expenses. Even though I probably don't hit the 250-hour threshold yet, having this documentation could be valuable if I add more properties or increase my involvement level. Regarding audits - I haven't personally been through one for QBI/rental issues, but from what I understand, the IRS would focus heavily on proving the "regular, continuous, and substantial" business activity standard. Time logs and contemporaneous records would be crucial evidence. The key is treating it like a real business from day one, even if you don't initially qualify for QBI treatment.

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Ava Martinez

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Has anyone successfully e-filed with this situation? I'm in a similar boat with an incorrect 1042S but when I tried to submit my return electronically, it got rejected because the system was looking for a 1040NR instead of a regular 1040.

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Miguel Ramos

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I had to paper file when this happened to me. The e-file systems get confused when you have 1042S withholding but are filing as a resident alien on Form 1040. I mailed my return with a copy of my 1042S attached and got my refund after about 10 weeks.

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Sarah Ali

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I actually managed to e-file successfully after running into the same rejection issue! The trick was to make sure I didn't check any boxes indicating nonresident status in my tax software. In FreeTaxUSA, there's a section about foreign income/status - I had to explicitly select "No" to all the nonresident alien questions even though I had a 1042S form. Also, when entering the 1042S withholding, I labeled it as "Federal income tax withheld from Forms 1099, 1042S, etc." rather than trying to categorize it as nonresident withholding. The system accepted it on the second try and I got my refund in about 3 weeks via direct deposit.

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I went through this exact same situation last year! The key thing to remember is that as a resident alien, you should NOT be filing Form 1040NR - you file the regular Form 1040 just like any other US resident. For the 1042S form, you'll need to: 1. Report the scholarship income (Box 2) as taxable income on your 1040 2. Claim credit for the federal taxes withheld (Box 7) so you get that money back Since your fellowship exceeded tuition costs, the portion used for living expenses is indeed taxable income. But the good news is that you should get back most or all of the taxes they incorrectly withheld at the nonresident rate. One thing to watch out for - make sure you're not accidentally triggering any nonresident alien flags in your tax software. Some programs get confused when they see a 1042S form and might try to push you toward nonresident filing, but you need to stay on the resident track. Also keep all your documentation from the university acknowledging their error - it could be helpful if the IRS has any questions about the mixed forms on your return.

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Kevin Bell

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This is really helpful! I'm in a similar situation where my university issued me a 1042S even though I should be filing as a resident. One question - when you say "most or all of the taxes they incorrectly withheld," what rate were they likely withholding at? My 1042S shows they withheld about 30% which seems way too high for what I should actually owe on fellowship income. Also, did you have any issues with the IRS questioning why you had a 1042S but were filing as a resident? I'm worried about triggering an audit or having to explain the university's mistake.

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Yara Khalil

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Yes, 30% is the standard withholding rate for nonresident aliens, so that's definitely way too high for your situation as a resident! As a resident alien, you'd typically pay regular income tax rates on fellowship income (probably somewhere in the 10-22% range depending on your total income), so you should get a significant refund. I didn't have any issues with the IRS questioning the mixed forms. From what I understand, universities make this mistake fairly often with international students, so the IRS sees it regularly. I filed my return normally and got my refund without any additional correspondence. Just make sure you're clearly filing as a resident (Form 1040, not 1040NR) and that should signal to them that you know your correct status. The key is being consistent - file as a resident, report all your income including the fellowship money, and claim credit for all the withholding. The IRS computers are pretty good at matching things up automatically.

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Zara Ahmed

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Make sure you're accounting for any selling expenses to reduce your gain. Did you pay any commissions or have other costs related to the sale? Those directly offset the amount of gain you'll recognize.

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Emma Wilson

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Good point! I paid a business broker about $15k to help find a buyer and handle the paperwork. I'm guessing I can deduct that from the sale price before calculating my gain?

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Zara Ahmed

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Yes, that $15k commission to the business broker absolutely reduces your gain! You'd subtract it from the $325k sale price before calculating your gain. So instead of a $245k gain, you're looking at a $230k gain. That should save you several thousand in taxes. Also track any other expenses directly related to the sale - legal fees, appraisal costs, even travel if you had to meet with potential buyers. Every dollar in selling expenses is a dollar less in taxable gain.

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Dana Doyle

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This is a great learning thread! I'm facing a similar situation soon - considering selling some of my business equipment but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Reading through everyone's experiences here is really helpful. One thing I'm curious about - for those who've gone through this, how did you handle the timing? Emma mentioned the money hit her account last month, but I'm wondering if there are strategic timing considerations for when to actually complete the sale. Like, would it make sense to wait until early in a tax year vs late in the year to have more time to plan offsetting strategies? Also, has anyone here worked with a tax professional specifically for equipment sales like this? I'm wondering if the complexity justifies hiring someone beyond just using software or online services.

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Paolo Romano

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Great question about timing! From what I've learned lurking here, the timing can definitely matter for tax planning. If you complete the sale early in the tax year, you have more time to implement offsetting strategies like maximizing retirement contributions, harvesting investment losses, or making charitable donations before December 31st. However, you also want to consider your overall income for the year. If you're having a particularly high-income year already, it might make sense to push the sale to the following year if possible. As for tax professionals, given the complexity of depreciation recapture and the significant dollar amounts involved, I'd definitely recommend getting professional help. The cost of a good tax advisor will likely be a tiny fraction of what you could save (or lose) by getting the calculations wrong. Equipment sales involve some really specific rules that general tax software might not handle perfectly.

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