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I completed an OIC myself last year. Settled $48k for about $8k. Here's what helped me the most: 1. I used the Pre-Qualifier tool on the IRS website first to see if I even qualified 2. I called the Taxpayer Advocate Service (they're free!) for advice 3. I read the entire Form 656 instruction booklet twice before filling anything out 4. I included every possible piece of documentation upfront - bank statements, pay stubs, bills, etc. 5. I was 100% honest about everything - they will find out if you're not The hardest part was calculating an accurate offer amount. Don't lowball them - they have internal guidelines about what they'll accept based on your financial situation. And be patient! My process took 11 months from submission to acceptance.
Hannah, based on your situation, you're definitely a good candidate for an OIC. With $950/week income and that high car payment, plus no assets, you should qualify under "Doubt as to Collectibility." I'd strongly recommend starting with the IRS Pre-Qualifier tool that Isaac mentioned - it's free and gives you a good sense of whether it's worth pursuing. Given your financial constraints, doing it yourself is absolutely feasible if you're methodical about it. A few practical tips from someone who's been through this: 1. Download Form 656 and the instruction booklet NOW and read through it completely before starting. It's dense but explains exactly what the IRS is looking for. 2. For your car payment calculation - the IRS has transportation allowance standards by region. Your $800/month payment might exceed their allowable amount, so factor that into your offer calculation. 3. Start gathering ALL your financial documents now: bank statements (last 3-6 months), pay stubs, bills, loan statements, etc. The IRS wants complete financial transparency. 4. Consider the 20% down payment requirement - you'll need to pay 20% of your offer amount upfront with your application. The fact that you've already filed your missing returns shows good faith, which helps your case. Take your time with the paperwork - rushing it and getting rejected will set you back months.
This is really helpful advice, Mia! I'm definitely going to start with that Pre-Qualifier tool. One question about the 20% down payment - if I calculate that my reasonable offer would be around $8k-10k based on my financial situation, I'd need $1,600-2,000 upfront. Is there any flexibility on this requirement, or do they have payment plan options for the down payment itself? That's still a pretty big chunk of money for me to come up with all at once.
Unfortunately, there's no flexibility on the 20% down payment requirement - it has to be paid in full when you submit your OIC application. The IRS doesn't offer payment plans for the down payment itself. However, there are two payment options for your overall offer: 1. Lump Sum Cash Offer (20% down, remainder paid within 5 months of acceptance) 2. Periodic Payment Offer (first payment with application, then monthly payments during the evaluation process) The Periodic Payment option might work better for your situation since you'd spread the payments out over the evaluation period (typically 6-24 months). Just keep in mind that you'll need to continue making those monthly payments even while they're reviewing your offer. Another option to consider - if coming up with even $1,600 is tough right now, you might want to wait a few months to save up before submitting. A rejected OIC due to incomplete payment can hurt your chances if you reapply later. You could also explore requesting Currently Not Collectible status first, which would pause collection activities while you get your finances in order to properly fund an OIC application.
When I filed my late 941s, I included a letter explaining the situation and requesting an installment plan at the same time. Got approved in about 6 weeks. Saved me from having to follow up separately after they processed everything. Just make sure you're super specific about how much you can pay monthly and WHY that's all you can afford right now. I included a simple cash flow statement showing my business income and expenses to justify my proposed payment amount.
Eva, I went through almost the exact same situation with my landscaping business last year. Here's what I learned that might help you: First, yes you can absolutely be proactive - don't wait for them to send you a bill. I submitted my installment agreement request (Form 9465) about 2 weeks after filing my late 941s, and it was approved before I even received any penalty notices. A few key things that helped me: - Calculate realistic monthly payments based on your actual cash flow, not just what would pay it off fastest - Include a brief explanation of why you fell behind (cash flow issues, learning curve as new business, etc.) - Make sure you have enough set aside for your current quarterly deposits - they WILL cancel your plan if you miss ongoing payments The IRS was actually more understanding than I expected. My plan got approved for 36 months at $850/month, which was manageable for my business. The key is being honest about your financials and showing you're committed to staying current going forward. One last tip: if you qualify, consider applying online through the IRS website - it's much faster than mailing forms. Good luck, and don't stress too much. This is more common than you think!
My family did something similar last year and we learned that whoever pays the expenses is generally who gets the tax benefits. So if your parents still pay the property taxes and mortgage, they can claim those deductions. But the ownership for other purposes is split between life tenant (parents) and remainderman (you). The tricky part comes with calculating the actual value of each interest. The IRS has specific tables for this based on your parents' ages. Its super weird because technically you own a "future interest" that has a specific calculable value right now.
This is super helpful! Do you know where I can find those IRS tables? My mom did something similar and we're trying to figure out the gift tax implications for the remainder interest.
You can find those IRS actuarial tables in Publication 1457 (Actuarial Valuations Version 3A) or look up "Section 7520 rates" on the IRS website. The tables use your parents' ages and current federal rates to calculate the present value of the life estate versus the remainder interest. For gift tax purposes, the value of the remainder interest you received is considered a gift from your parents. If it's over the annual exclusion amount, they might need to file Form 709. The calculation can get pretty complex, so definitely worth having a tax pro run the numbers if the property value is substantial.
This is a really common estate planning setup, and you're smart to get clarity on the tax implications now! From what you've described, your parents retain most of the tax benefits while they're alive since they have the life estate. Generally speaking, your parents would continue to pay and deduct the property taxes and mortgage interest since they're the ones living there and making those payments. The life estate gives them the right to exclusive use of the property, which typically comes with the responsibility (and tax benefits) of maintaining it. You technically own the "remainder interest" right now, but it won't become active ownership until after your parents pass away. The good news is that when that time comes, you should receive a stepped-up basis to the fair market value, which can save significantly on capital gains taxes if you ever sell. One thing to double-check - make sure your parents filed any required gift tax forms when they created this arrangement, since transferring the remainder interest to you could be considered a gift depending on the property's value and your parents' ages. The IRS has specific actuarial tables to calculate this. Worth having a tax professional review the documents to make sure everything was handled correctly from the start!
Has anyone dealt with filing a tax return for a 4-year-old? Like what tax software even allows this? I'm trying to help my sister with her kid's acting income and we're confused about the logistics.
I used TurboTax last year for my 7-year-old's return. It handled it fine - you just need their Social Security number and to indicate they're being claimed as a dependent on someone else's return. The software walks you through it pretty well, though it does feel weird putting in a birthdate that's so recent!
Thanks for the tip! That makes me feel better. Was worried we'd have to go to a professional which seems expensive for what should be a fairly simple return. I'll give TurboTax a shot.
Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this exact situation! My 5-year-old son earned about $35k from a recurring role on a kids' show last year, and I was initially panicked about the tax implications. The good news is that you can absolutely still claim her as a dependent - the income threshold that disqualifies dependents only applies to "qualifying relatives" (like adult children or other family members), not "qualifying children" under 19. Since she's your 4-year-old daughter living with you, she meets the qualifying child test regardless of her income. A few practical tips from our experience: 1. Keep detailed records of ALL her work-related expenses - acting classes, headshots, travel to sets, etc. Many of these can be deducted on her return. 2. The "kiddie tax" rules might apply to any unearned income she has (like interest from her earnings), but her acting income is earned income and taxed normally. 3. Make sure to set aside money for estimated taxes if she'll have similar earnings next year - child actors often don't have enough withheld. Also, definitely look into your state's Coogan Law requirements if applicable. We had to set up a blocked trust account for 15% of his earnings here in California. It's actually a good thing long-term since it ensures she'll have money saved for when she's older!
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm curious about the estimated taxes piece you mentioned. How do you calculate what to set aside for a child performer? Is it the same percentage as adults would use, or are there different considerations since they're dependents? Also, did you run into any issues with the blocked trust account - like specific banks that handle Coogan accounts or any complications with accessing the remaining 85% for normal expenses?
For estimated taxes, I calculated roughly 25-30% of his gross earnings to be safe, though the actual rate depends on the total income and deductions. Since child performers are often classified as self-employed (depending on how they're paid), they might owe self-employment tax too, which is something to watch for. Regarding the Coogan account, we used City National Bank in LA since they specialize in entertainment industry accounts and handle lots of Coogan trusts. The process was pretty straightforward once we had all the paperwork from the productions. The remaining 85% goes into a regular account that we can access for her normal expenses and savings. Just make sure to keep detailed records of what goes where for tax purposes - the blocked 15% isn't taxable to her until she withdraws it at 18, but the accessible portion is taxed normally. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: if your child continues working, consider setting up a corporation or LLC. It can provide some tax advantages and makes the business side much cleaner to manage.
Victoria Jones
Something that helped me understand this better was thinking about it like this: the simplified method on line 30 is basically the IRS saying "we know home offices have certain standard costs, so here's a flat rate that covers all the typical stuff." When you take that $5 per square foot deduction, you're essentially telling the IRS "I'm using your standard allowance for all my home office space costs" - which includes utilities, a portion of mortgage/rent, insurance, repairs, etc. That's why you can't then turn around and also claim those same types of expenses in Part 2. But here's what I found really important to track separately: any business expense that you'd have regardless of WHERE your office is located. Computer equipment, business software, office furniture, professional memberships, business insurance - these aren't "home office space" costs, they're just regular business expenses that happen to be used in your home office. The confusion often comes from thinking the simplified method means you can't deduct anything else business-related, but that's not true. It just means you can't double-dip on the costs of maintaining the physical space itself.
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Luca Russo
β’This is such a helpful way to think about it! I've been struggling with this exact distinction and your explanation about "costs you'd have regardless of WHERE your office is located" really clarifies things for me. I think where I was getting confused is that I kept thinking of my computer and desk as "home office" expenses, but you're right - I'd need those business tools whether I worked from home, rented an office space, or worked anywhere else. The simplified method is just covering the "housing" costs of that equipment, not the equipment itself. This makes me feel much more confident about which expenses I can still legitimately claim in Part 2. Thanks for breaking it down in such a practical way!
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Aileen Rodriguez
I went through this exact confusion when I first started my home-based consulting business! What really helped me was creating a simple mental checklist: **If I choose the simplified method (line 30), I CANNOT also claim:** - Any portion of mortgage interest for the office space - Property taxes allocated to the office - Utilities (electric, gas, water) for the office area - Home insurance allocated to the office - Repairs and maintenance for the office space **But I CAN still claim in Part 2:** - Office supplies and materials - Business equipment and software - Professional licenses and subscriptions - Business meals and travel - Marketing and advertising costs - Professional services (legal, accounting, etc.) The way I remember it: the simplified method covers the "housing" of my business, but not the actual business operations. It took me a couple years to get comfortable with this distinction, but once it clicked, filing became so much easier! One last tip: I always run the calculation both ways in a spreadsheet before deciding. Sometimes the math surprises you, especially if you have high utility costs or a larger office space.
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Keisha Johnson
β’This checklist is incredibly helpful! I'm just starting out with my home business and was completely overwhelmed by all the different deduction categories. Your breakdown of what's covered by the simplified method versus what still goes in Part 2 makes it so much clearer. I especially appreciate the tip about running the calculation both ways - I hadn't even thought about comparing the methods numerically. Do you happen to know if there are any good spreadsheet templates out there for doing this comparison? I'm pretty comfortable with Excel but don't want to reinvent the wheel if there's already a good template available. Also, when you mention "professional services" can still be claimed in Part 2, does that include things like my accountant's fee for preparing my taxes, or business coaching services? I want to make sure I'm not missing any legitimate deductions while also staying on the right side of the rules.
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