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Can someone explain 1099-DIV with "Paid/adjusted in 2024, but for 2023" dividends? Confused about qualified vs ordinary reporting

I'm going through my husband's 2023 1099-DIV forms and noticed several stocks have amounts in the "Paid/adjusted in 2024, but for 2023" column. I'm trying to understand what this means for our taxes. Looking closer, I see two stocks where the adjustment basically moves money from ordinary dividends to qualified dividends. But for three other stocks, it's not a clean swap - only some of the ordinary dividends are getting reclassified as qualified. Since qualified and ordinary dividends are taxed differently, I'm wondering how to figure out exactly which dividends got reclassified. For example: Stock ABC shows $365.75 paid in 2023 dividends, initially all as ordinary. Then they adjusted it in 2024 to remove $218.45 as ordinary dividends and added $244.80 as qualified dividends. In our transaction history, we received $245.25 in December, $1.75 in September, and $118.75 in June, totaling $365.75. But how do I know which portions are now considered qualified? I think we're fine for safe harbor rules this year (we've withheld at least 90% of current year tax through even payments). But what if next year I need to use the annualized method and figure out which quarter each dividend belongs to? Should I assume the adjustment applies only to the last quarter, meaning higher tax in earlier quarters? Also, there's no specific date showing when foreign tax was paid, but that might explain the difference between the $218.45 removed from ordinary dividends and $244.80 added to qualified dividends for Stock ABC.

I think you're overthinking this a bit. The 1099-DIV adjustments are just corrections after the fact. Companies initially report dividends one way, then later determine some qualify for better tax treatment. For your estimated tax question - I'm a financial advisor and we generally advise clients to be conservative and assume the higher tax rate (ordinary dividends) for any estimated payments made before the final 1099-DIV is available. This avoids underpayment penalties. Then when you file your actual return, you get the benefit of any dividends that were reclassified as qualified.

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Natalie Khan

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That makes sense for a conservative approach! Would you suggest keeping a separate spreadsheet tracking dividend payments by quarter in case I need to use the annualized method in the future? Or is that overkill?

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Yes, keeping a simple spreadsheet tracking dividend payments by quarter is a smart move, especially if you have significant investment income. Include columns for the payment date, stock/fund name, amount, and initial classification (ordinary vs qualified). When you receive your final 1099-DIV, you can apply the final qualified/ordinary ratio to your quarterly tracking. This gives you documentation if you ever need to use the annualized method or if you're questioned about your estimated payments. I wouldn't call it overkill - it's just good record-keeping that takes minimal effort but provides great peace of mind.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - these reclassifications often happen with foreign stocks where determining qualified dividend status is more complex. Companies have to verify they meet the requirements of the tax treaties between countries. With some foreign companies, they need to calculate their earnings and profits under US tax principles, which takes time beyond the initial reporting deadline. That's why you see these adjustments later. The good news is this is usually in your favor - more dividends qualifying for the lower tax rate!

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This explains a lot! Most of my "adjusted in 2024" entries are from international ETFs. Is there any way to predict which foreign dividends will eventually be qualified so I can plan better?

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Diego Rojas

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It's tough to predict with certainty, but there are some general guidelines. Foreign companies in countries with comprehensive tax treaties (like UK, Canada, most of Europe) are more likely to have their dividends qualify. ETFs that hold primarily developed market stocks tend to have higher qualified dividend percentages. You can also look at the fund's prospectus or annual reports - many will give you historical data on what percentage of their distributions were qualified in previous years. While not a guarantee, it gives you a baseline for planning. For conservative estimated tax planning, I'd assume maybe 70-80% of dividends from developed market international funds will end up qualified, and closer to 50% for emerging market funds. But definitely plan conservatively for your quarterly estimates!

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Omar Zaki

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Just a practical note - as someone who's been through an IRS audit that involved passive activities - having MORE documentation rather than less is almost always better. Even if Form 8582 is technically optional in your case, having it there provides clear documentation of how your passive income was treated. The IRS loves when things are clearly documented and hate when they have to "figure out" what you did. Including Form 8582 makes your return more transparent, not less.

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I had a very similar situation last year with a rental property partnership that generated passive income but no losses. After going back and forth with my CPA, we discovered that the confusion often comes from the fact that Form 8582 serves multiple purposes that aren't always obvious. Beyond just calculating loss limitations, the form also establishes your "basis" in passive activities for future years. Even though you don't have losses now, if your partnership ever distributes property, sells assets, or you dispose of your interest, having that historical passive activity tracking becomes important for calculating gain/loss character. My CPA explained it like this: think of Form 8582 as creating a "passive activity file" with the IRS. Once you start that file (even with just income), it makes future filings much cleaner if your situation changes. The software is being conservative and correct by including it. Better to have it and not strictly need it than to need it later and not have the proper documentation trail.

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This is really helpful context! I hadn't thought about the future implications of establishing that "passive activity file" early. Your CPA's explanation makes a lot of sense - it's like creating a paper trail now that could be crucial later. I'm curious though - does the IRS actually track this historical passive activity data across years, or is it more about having consistent documentation on your end? And if you dispose of your partnership interest years down the road, would they actually reference back to these old 8582 forms to verify the character of the gain/loss?

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Let me clear this up once and for all. SBTPG 'funded' means they have received your money from the IRS, subtracted their fees, and are preparing to send the remainder to your bank. Based on data from over 200 posts in this community over the past 3 tax seasons, the average wait time from 'funded' to deposit is exactly 1.7 business days. The longest reported wait was 5 business days, and the shortest was same-day. About 68% of people see their money within 48 hours of the 'funded' status appearing. If it goes beyond 3 business days, that's when you should start making calls.

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I've been dealing with SBTPG for the past few years and can confirm what others are saying - "funded" definitely doesn't mean the money is in your account yet! From my experience, it means they've got your refund from the IRS and are now processing it on their end. I usually see the deposit 1-2 days after that status appears, but I've learned to always check early in the morning since most banks process ACH transfers overnight. One tip I picked up from this community: if you're worried about timing for bills, you can usually call your bank and ask if they see any pending deposits - sometimes they can see the incoming transfer before it actually posts to your account. Hope this helps ease some anxiety while you wait!

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For anyone in this situation, please remember that if your income was only $14k in 2023, you were probably under the filing requirement threshold anyway! For 2023, single filers under 25 didn't need to file if they made less than $12,950.

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Ava Williams

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That's not completely accurate. The standard deduction was $12,950 in 2023, but you could still be required to file depending on other factors like self-employment income (even small amounts), if someone claimed you as a dependent, or if you had health insurance through the marketplace.

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Don't feel embarrassed at all - you're definitely not alone in this situation! I work as a tax preparer and see people in similar circumstances all the time. The good news is that with your income level of $14,000, you're almost certainly due a refund rather than owing anything. Here's what I'd recommend: First, gather your 2023 W-2 from the coffee shop (contact them if you can't find it - they're required to provide copies). Then you have a few options - you can use free tax software like the IRS Free File program, visit a VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) location for free help, or even just fill out a simple 1040 form. The key thing is that there's no penalty for filing late when you're due a refund. You have until April 15, 2027 to claim your 2023 refund, so you've got plenty of time. Once you file, you'll probably get back most or all of what was withheld from your paychecks, and you might even qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit which could mean extra money back. You're taking the right step by asking for help - don't let tax anxiety keep you from claiming money that's rightfully yours!

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I messed up handling this exact situation last year and learned the hard way. Was doing web development for a startup that kept promising payment "after next funding round." I kept working and recorded all the income on accrual basis. When they went under, my accountant told me I couldn't just write it off as easily as I thought. Had to show the IRS I'd tried to collect and that the debt was actually worthless. Had almost no documentation because everything was verbal and casual emails. My advice: formalize EVERYTHING, even with clients you trust. Get payment terms in writing. If they can't pay on time, create a formal payment plan document with signatures. Convert outstanding balances to promissory notes if they stretch beyond your normal terms. Keep records of ALL communication about collection. Trust me, you'll thank yourself later if things go south.

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Thanks for sharing your experience - that's exactly what I'm worried about. Did you end up being able to claim any of it as a loss after they went under? Or were you just stuck paying taxes on income you never received?

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I was only able to claim about 60% of the total as a bad debt deduction. For the remainder, I had to pay taxes on income I never actually received - it was painful. The IRS disallowed part of my deduction because I couldn't adequately prove when certain portions became worthless or show sufficient collection attempts. The most frustrating part was that I could have protected myself completely if I'd just formalized things from the beginning. My accountant now has me convert any invoice that's 45+ days past due into a promissory note with clear terms, so there's no question about it being a legitimate debt if the client defaults.

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This is such a common situation that catches so many business owners off guard. I went through something similar with a client who owed me about $8,000 and kept asking for extensions. What really helped me was understanding the timing aspect - you need to be able to pinpoint when the debt actually became worthless, not just when you gave up trying to collect. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: if you're going to convert unpaid invoices to a formal loan arrangement, make sure you charge a reasonable interest rate and set realistic payment terms. The IRS can challenge whether it's a legitimate business loan vs. just disguised income if the terms are too favorable to the debtor. Also, keep detailed records of your client's financial situation if possible. If they file for bankruptcy, get copies of the bankruptcy documents. If they close their business, document when that happened. This evidence helps establish the timeline for when the debt became truly uncollectable, which is crucial for your bad debt deduction timing.

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