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Title: How to report 1099-R with "taxable amount not determined" box checked for inherited annuity 1 I recently inherited a non-qualified fixed annuity from my mother. The check stub that came with the distribution shows the post-TEFRA principal and post-TEFRA policyholder taxable gain of around $48,000. My issue is that when I received the 1099-R, box 2b is checked indicating "taxable amount not determined." I'm confused about how to report this on my tax return. Do I use the $48,000 figure shown on the check stub as the taxable amount, or is there another process I need to follow to determine the correct taxable amount? What's making this more confusing is that I also inherited another non-qualified fixed annuity from a different insurance company, and their 1099-R actually matches what was on their check stub - no box 2b checked there. Can anyone help me figure out how to handle the 1099-R with "taxable amount not determined" checked?
So I'm completely baffled right now. Both TurboTax and my IRS account transcript show my refund amount as $5,674, but when I checked my bank account today, the deposit is only showing $1,238. I have no idea where the rest of my money went? I work for the federal government as a program analyst, so if I owed any kind of debt, they could easily garnish my wages directly. I haven't received any notices or letters from the IRS about owing money or having my refund offset for any reason. Has anyone experienced something like this? The difference is over $4,400 and I'm really concerned about where that money disappeared to. The deposit just says "IRS TREAS TAX REF" but doesn't give any explanation for the reduced amount.
Did you check your tax transcript for TC 898? That's the transaction code for refund offsets. It should list the amount that was offset and potentially give you more info. You can view your transcript online through your IRS account.
That definitely means child support offset. The "CHLDSPPRT" code is specifically for child support payments that have been flagged in the system. This sounds like it could be a case of mistaken identity or someone with a similar name/SSN. You should immediately contact your state's child support enforcement agency to figure out what's going on. They can verify if there's a support order in your name. Sometimes people with similar names get mixed up in the system.
@Paolo Conti This is definitely something you need to resolve ASAP. A child support offset when you don t'have children or support obligations is a serious issue that could indicate identity theft or administrative error. I d'recommend calling the Federal Office of Child Support Enforcement at 1-202-401-9383 in addition to your state agency. They can help identify which state initiated the offset and provide you with the case number. You ll'likely need to provide documentation proving you don t'have children or support obligations. Also keep all records of your attempts to resolve this - if it turns out to be an error, you should be able to get your money back, but it might take some time and persistence.
Has anyone noticed how many more offset issues there seem to be this year compared to past years? I'm an accountant and I've had at least 8 clients with unexpected offsets this filing season alone.
I'm trying to figure out something confusing with my QBI deduction for 2025 taxes. When I'm working on my QBI deduction spreadsheet for my self-employment income in my tax software, I noticed something weird - the ยง199A dividends that show up on my 1099-DIV are getting automatically added into my business income calculation. This seems strange to me because these dividends are just from my personal investments that have nothing to do with my actual business operations. I'm just a regular individual investor for these, not running them through my business at all. I just want to make sure I understand correctly - are both these ยง199A dividends AND my actual qualified business income from my self-employment supposed to be combined for calculating the 20% QBI deduction? It feels weird that they're calling those regular investment dividends "business income" when they're completely separate from my actual business activities. Any insight would be super helpful! Thanks!
Can someone explain why they called these ยง199A dividends in the first place? I always thought dividends were just dividends. What makes these special and how do I know if I have any?
They're special because they come from certain types of investments (mainly REITs and some mutual funds) that themselves qualify for the QBI deduction. Rather than keep the deduction at the company level, these companies pass the QBI benefit through to their shareholders. You'll know if you have them because they appear specifically in Box 5 of your 1099-DIV form. If that box is empty or has $0, you don't have any ยง199A dividends. Not all dividend-paying investments generate this special type.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with the exact same confusion right now. I have a small consulting business and also some REIT investments, and I was scratching my head when TurboTax started combining these completely unrelated income streams for the QBI calculation. What really threw me off was seeing "business income" include my dividend income - it felt like the software was making a mistake. But after reading through all these explanations, it makes sense that Congress essentially created this weird hybrid category where certain investment dividends get treated like business income for tax purposes. I'm going to double-check my 1099-DIV forms to make sure I'm not missing any Box 5 entries. It sounds like even a small amount of ยง199A dividends could help boost my overall QBI deduction, especially since I'm nowhere near those high income thresholds where the limitations kick in. Thanks everyone for clarifying this - saved me from potentially calling my tax preparer and looking foolish!
My brother-in-law showed me his W-2 form and there's something weird going on with the Cafe 125 line. The amount listed there is only about half of what was actually deducted from his paychecks throughout the year. What happened is his employer accidentally took out double the amount for health insurance premiums all year long. He's been trying to get the overpayment refunded, but hasn't seen any of that money come back yet. I'm confused - shouldn't his W-2 show the full amount that was actually taken out? This seems to be affecting his reported wages. Also, since this money was taken pre-tax and it's roughly 13% of his reported wages, would he be able to deduct these health insurance premiums somewhere else on his taxes? The Cafe 125 situation is really confusing me!
Has your brother-in-law checked his last December paystub against his W-2? Sometimes the year-end paystub will show the total pre-tax deductions for the entire year. He could compare this with what's shown in the Cafe 125 box on the W-2 to confirm the discrepancy.
This is a frustrating situation, but you're absolutely right to be concerned. The Cafe 125 box on the W-2 should reflect the actual pre-tax deductions taken throughout the year, not some reduced amount. If your brother-in-law had double deductions but only half is reported, his taxable wages are artificially inflated. Here's what I'd recommend: First, gather all his paystubs from the year to document the actual deductions. Then contact the employer's payroll department immediately to request a corrected W-2 (Form W-2c). Be specific about the discrepancy and provide the documentation. Regarding the tax deduction question - no, he can't deduct these premiums elsewhere since they were taken pre-tax through the Cafe 125 plan. The tax benefit comes from the reduced taxable income, not from itemized deductions. But with the incorrect reporting, he's not even getting that benefit properly right now. If the employer is unresponsive, he may need to file Form 4852 (Substitute W-2) with his return and contact the IRS about the employer's incorrect reporting. Don't let this slide - it's costing him money.
According to IRS Publication 1582 (Rev. 5-2023), transcript updates typically precede direct deposits by 24-48 hours. However, I'm currently in cycle 0705 and my transcript hasn't updated with refund issued code 846 yet. Per Internal Revenue Manual 21.4.1.3, is it technically possible to receive a deposit before the transcript reflects this change? Bills are accumulating rapidly and I'm trying to determine if I should continue waiting or pursue alternative payment arrangements. Any assistance from fellow taxpayers would be greatly appreciated.
In a specific case I documented from March 2024, a cycle 0705 transcript updated on Thursday at approximately 3am ET with code 846. The associated direct deposit appeared in the taxpayer's account the following Wednesday. Did you verify that you're checking the Account Transcript for tax year 2023, not the Return Transcript? The distinction is crucial for accurate monitoring.
I can confirm from personal experience that deposits CAN arrive before transcript updates, though it's uncommon. Last year with cycle 0705, my Navy Federal account showed the pending deposit on Tuesday evening, but my transcript didn't show the 846 code until Thursday morning. The key is checking both your bank account AND transcript regularly. However, I'd echo the advice about not making firm financial commitments based on expected timing - the IRS systems can be unpredictable, especially during peak season. Have you tried checking your account transcript vs return transcript? Sometimes one updates before the other.
Zara Mirza
3 Has anyone tried calling the company that issued the 1099-R directly? I had this same issue last year, and I just called their customer service department. They sent me a detailed breakdown of what was taxable and what wasn't. Saved me a lot of headache!
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Zara Mirza
Author17 I tried that first actually! The customer service rep I spoke with just kept repeating that they "cannot provide tax advice" and directed me to consult a tax professional. Super frustrating experience.
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Amara Okonkwo
I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! Got a 1099-R with box 2b checked for an inherited annuity from my grandmother. The insurance company's documentation shows the original premium payments versus the account value at death, but I wasn't sure if I could rely on that calculation. Reading through these responses has been incredibly helpful - especially knowing that using the taxable gain amount from the distribution paperwork is the accepted approach. I was worried I might be missing some complex calculation or IRS form I needed to file. One question though: should I attach a copy of the insurance company's breakdown to my tax return, or is it sufficient to just keep it with my records in case of questions later?
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