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Amina Sy

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Lots of great advice here but I wanted to add that you should also check if your state has income tax too! I messed up my first year in college by only worrying about federal taxes and completely forgot about state taxes. Ended up owing a few hundred dollars to my state that I hadn't budgeted for.

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Good point! Also worth mentioning that if you work in different states (like if one job is near campus but another is in your hometown during breaks), you might need to file multiple state tax returns. I had to file in two states last year and it was a pain.

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Sofia Peña

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As someone who's been through this exact situation, I'd recommend keeping detailed records of your income from each job throughout the year. Since your hours are so inconsistent, it'll help you track whether you're on pace to earn more or less than you initially estimated when you set up your W-4s. I use a simple spreadsheet to track my weekly earnings from each job, and I review it monthly to see if I need to adjust my withholding. If you find you're earning significantly more than expected from one job, you might want to increase your additional withholding on that W-4 to avoid a surprise tax bill. Also, don't forget to save all your pay stubs and any receipts for work-related expenses (like uniforms, transportation between jobs, etc.) - some of these might be deductible depending on your situation. The key is staying organized throughout the year rather than scrambling to figure everything out at tax time.

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This is really smart advice about tracking everything! I'm actually in a similar boat with inconsistent hours across multiple jobs. Do you have any specific spreadsheet template you'd recommend, or did you just create your own? I'm not great with Excel but I know I need to get more organized with tracking my income from each job before tax season hits.

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Tax Accountant doesn't disclose rate and suddenly charges $350 after phone consultation

I recently reached out to a small tax accounting firm that was recommended by Fidelity Financial for advice on my new employment situation. I scheduled a face-to-face meeting with one of their accountants to talk through some tax options with my new job. The morning of the appointment, the accountant called saying he wasn't in the office and suggested we do the call over the phone instead. I agreed, thinking it was reasonable. However, there was never any mention of fees - neither how much it would cost nor how they would calculate it (hourly rate vs. flat fee). The phone call was painfully long-winded. I briefly explained my situation, and this accountant went on endless tangents about tax code, including many basic concepts I already knew. I couldn't easily interrupt him to steer the conversation back on track. He spent time explaining the difference between a 401k and IRA, which is pretty elementary stuff when I had already mentioned taking several accounting courses and handling my own taxes for years. Most of his explanations weren't even relevant to my specific questions about my new employment situation. When we finally wrapped up the call (which lasted exactly one hour), he casually mentioned "I hope my assistant told you about our fee - where can I send the invoice for $350?" Looking back, I feel like the call was intentionally stretched out. My specific tax questions could have been answered in 15-20 minutes with a focused discussion rather than a one-sided tax lecture filled with unnecessary information. I expressed my surprise and frustration about receiving this bill without any prior fee disclosure. Their response was basically "sorry, can't adjust the bill, we're very busy and you received valuable tax information." What would you do in this situation? Is it normal for tax professionals to not disclose their rates upfront? Should I pay the $350 or dispute it? I feel it's unethical to not mention fees before providing services, though I definitely should have asked directly.

Demi Hall

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This is exactly why I always ask about fees upfront now, even if it feels awkward. I learned this lesson the hard way a few years ago with a different service provider. For your situation, I'd document everything - the lack of fee disclosure, the unnecessarily long explanations of basic concepts you already understood, and how the call could have been much shorter if focused on your actual questions. Then I'd send them a written response (email works) explaining why you feel the charge is unreasonable and offer a partial payment that reflects the actual value you received. Something like: "I'm willing to pay $125 for the consultation, which I believe fairly reflects the 15-20 minutes of relevant advice I received. The remainder of the call consisted of basic tax concepts I already understood and wasn't necessary for my specific employment situation questions." Most small firms will accept a reasonable settlement rather than deal with the hassle of pursuing the full amount. The key is to be professional but firm about why you feel the original charge is unjustified due to their lack of transparency.

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The Boss

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This is really solid advice. I'm dealing with something similar right now where a tax preparer didn't mention their "document review fee" until after they'd already looked at my paperwork. It's so frustrating when professionals don't disclose all their charges upfront. Your suggestion about documenting everything and offering a reasonable partial payment makes a lot of sense. I think $125 sounds fair for what Sarah actually received - especially since most of the call was basic information she already knew. The fact that they stretched it to exactly one hour also seems suspicious to me. @Sarah Ali - I d'definitely recommend putting any counteroffer in writing via email so you have documentation of your attempt to resolve this reasonably. That way if they do try to escalate it somehow, you can show you made a good faith effort to settle.

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This is completely unethical behavior from that tax firm. As someone who's dealt with multiple CPAs over the years, I can tell you that legitimate professionals ALWAYS disclose their fees before providing any services. The fact that they waited until the end of an hour-long call to mention a $350 fee is a huge red flag. It sounds like they deliberately padded the consultation with unnecessary information to justify a higher bill. Any competent tax professional should be able to address your specific employment tax questions in 15-20 minutes without going into basic concepts you already understand. I'd strongly recommend disputing this charge. Send them a written response explaining that no fee was disclosed prior to the consultation, that much of the call consisted of irrelevant basic tax information, and that you're willing to pay a reasonable amount ($100-125) for the actual relevant advice you received. Don't let them intimidate you with the "we're very busy" response. Being busy doesn't excuse poor business practices or lack of transparency. Professional service providers have an ethical obligation to disclose fees upfront, and most state licensing boards have rules about this. Document everything and consider filing a complaint with your state's CPA board if they won't work with you on a reasonable settlement. This kind of behavior gives the entire profession a bad reputation.

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401k Rollover Error with Pretax, After-tax, and Roth Conversion - Need Urgent Advice!

So I messed up my 401k rollover back in July and need some advice on how to fix this tax nightmare. I had a 401k with Fidelity (my old job) that had both pretax and after-tax contributions. When I tried to rollover to Vanguard, Fidelity told me their system could only send everything to one account, but that they'd actually mail two separate checks - one for pretax to my Traditional IRA and one for the after-tax portion directly to me. Well, surprise! They sent ONE check with EVERYTHING to Vanguard, who immediately dumped it all into my Traditional IRA before I could stop them. I've been fighting with both companies for months now, and finally did a Roth conversion to move what should be the after-tax portion to my Roth IRA. I called the IRS (worst experience ever - couldn't understand the guy and he was super rude) who basically said to write on my tax form that the conversion is non-taxable and include documentation. Meanwhile, I haven't invested any of this money because I'm afraid it'll complicate things further. My questions: 1) Vanguard probably won't code this Roth conversion correctly to show it was moving after-tax money. How do I explain to the IRS that this shouldn't be taxed again since I already paid tax on it? Do I need a tax pro? 2) Vanguard gave me a 3% match on my rollover, but since everything went to Traditional IRA, the match is there too. If they'd done this right, would the match on the after-tax portion have gone to my Roth? Does it matter tax-wise where the match ends up? 3) Someone at EY (not a tax person but knowledgeable) suggested I should also convert the proportional gains from my after-tax contributions to Roth. I'd pay tax on those gains, but then they grow tax-free. Is this a good idea? I'm trying to get Vanguard to code this correctly before year-end but their customer service is awful (no phone, just email/chat). Really need advice on this mess!

I think everyone's overthinking this. I've done several rollovers and the key document you need is the final statement from your old 401k provider showing the breakdown between pre-tax and after-tax amounts. Get that, keep it with your tax records, and report things correctly on your Form 8606. The fact that Vanguard messed up initially is annoying but fixable. For the future, be aware you can request a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer instead of having checks sent, which often prevents these kinds of mixups.

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Javier Cruz

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I disagree - I had this exact situation last year and it turned into a NIGHTMARE. The 401k provider put the wrong codes on the 1099-R, and even though I had documentation showing the after-tax portion, I got a CP2000 notice from the IRS saying I owed taxes plus penalties. Had to send in multiple responses with documentation, and it took almost 8 months to resolve. Definitely worth getting professional help to ensure everything is filed correctly the first time.

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Daniel White

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I've been through a similar rollover mess and want to add a few practical tips that helped me navigate this: First, regarding your concern about not investing the money - you're actually smart to keep it in cash/stable value until this is sorted out. Capital gains/losses on top of the rollover confusion would just create more headaches come tax time. For documentation, create a simple spreadsheet tracking everything: original after-tax contribution amounts from Fidelity statements, the rollover amount, the Roth conversion amount, and dates for everything. This becomes your "story" that connects all the 1099s you'll receive. One thing I learned the hard way - if you're going to convert more money from Traditional to Roth (like the proportional gains the EY person mentioned), do it before December 31st. Roth conversions can't be undone anymore, so you want to be strategic about the timing and tax implications. Also, don't just rely on Vanguard's customer service to "code this correctly." They're not tax advisors and their 1099-R will likely just show a standard conversion. The burden is on you to properly report this on your tax return using Form 8606, regardless of how their forms look. Last tip: if you do decide to hire a tax professional, find one who specifically deals with complex retirement account issues. Many general CPAs don't handle these mega backdoor Roth situations regularly and might not catch important details.

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Is renting tables to other groomers at my dog grooming salon legal for tax purposes?

Hey guys, I'm in a bit of a sticky situation with my pet grooming business. I own a small dog grooming salon where I groom dogs and also rent out stations to other independent groomers. Recently, I posted an ad for an available table since one of my renters is leaving, and I've been getting bombarded with comments saying this arrangement is totally illegal and I'm going to get destroyed in an audit. The thing is, the previous salon owner operated exactly the same way for years and even went through an IRS audit without any issues. I've tried researching this online but the information is super confusing. All the groomers who rent from me are 100% running their own independent businesses. They handle their own clients, scheduling, payments, supplies, and everything else. They use their own payment processing systems, set their own prices, buy their own tools, carry their own insurance, and file their own Schedule C for self-employment taxes. I literally just provide the physical space they work in - our relationship is purely a rental agreement with a flat monthly fee. Still, people keep insisting that because I also work in the salon as a groomer myself, I can't legally rent tables to other groomers. They claim all these other groomers must be classified as my employees, which is ridiculous since I have zero control over their business operations. I found something called Form SS-8 "Determination of Worker Status" - would it be worth filling this out to get an official ruling from the IRS that these groomers are not my employees? Or is there something fundamental I'm missing about the legality of this arrangement? Getting really worried here!

I'm confused about something - I thought all self-employed people working at the same location need to be on 1099s? My accountant said if someone works at my business location, I absolutely have to give them a 1099 even if they're "independent" otherwise it's tax evasion.

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Your accountant is mixing up two different concepts. A 1099-MISC or 1099-NEC is for when you pay someone for services. But in a booth rental situation, they're paying YOU rent, not the other way around. Think of it like renting an apartment - your landlord doesn't give you a 1099 for living there. You pay them rent. Same concept with booth rental in a salon. The booth renters are essentially "tenants" renting commercial space from you.

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Yuki Tanaka

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I've been dealing with a similar situation at my own pet grooming business, and I can confirm that booth rental arrangements are completely legitimate when structured properly. I went through an IRS audit last year and had zero issues with my table rental setup. The key things that helped me during the audit were: 1) Having clear written lease agreements that explicitly state each groomer is renting physical space, not providing services to me 2) Keeping completely separate business operations - they use their own scheduling systems, payment processing, and client management 3) Documentation showing they carry their own business insurance and file their own taxes 4) Records proving they control their own pricing, hours, and service offerings One thing I learned during the audit process is that the IRS agent specifically looked for evidence that I wasn't controlling how they performed their work. Since each groomer operates independently and just happens to work in my facility, it was clear this was a landlord-tenant relationship rather than employer-employee. The fact that you also work as a groomer in the same space is irrelevant - I do too, and it didn't raise any red flags. Just make sure your lease agreements are solid and you maintain clear boundaries between your grooming business and your property rental business. Don't let the online comments scare you - this is a well-established business model that works perfectly fine when done correctly.

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Taylor To

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! Thank you for sharing your audit experience - it's so reassuring to know that others have been through this successfully. I'm definitely going to strengthen my lease agreements based on your recommendations. Quick question: when you say "completely separate business operations," did you also keep separate client databases? Right now some of my renters use the same booking software I do (they pay for their own accounts), but I'm wondering if that could be seen as too integrated during an audit?

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I had this exact same confusion last year and it nearly cost me big time. To clarify the misunderstanding: your CPA might be confusing solo 401k rules with ESTABLISHING the plan itself. The plan needs to be established by Dec 31st, but only the employee contributions need to be completed by then. Employer contributions can definitely be made until your tax filing deadline (including extensions). I confirmed this with both the IRS and my provider (Vanguard in my case).

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So if I'm just setting up a solo 401k now for the first time, am I already too late for making any contributions for 2023? Or can I still set it up and at least do the employer portion?

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Liv Park

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One thing nobody mentioned - if you're right against the deadline, consider doing an ACH transfer instead of a wire. With Schwab specifically (I have my solo 401k there too), they count the contribution based on when you initiate it, not when it settles. So even if it takes a couple days to process, as long as you start the transfer before the deadline, you're good. Just make sure to screenshot the confirmation page showing the date you initiated it, just in case there are ever any questions.

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