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Wait, I'm confused about something basic. If I'm day trading in my regular brokerage account (not IRA), aren't all my trades already "realized" at the time I sell anyway? What's the advantage of MTM if I'm already selling everything within the same tax year?
The main advantage for active traders isn't about realization (you're right that trades you complete are already realized) but about: 1. Business treatment vs. investment treatment - allowing you to deduct all trading-related expenses directly against your trading income 2. Bypassing the $3,000 capital loss limitation against ordinary income 3. No wash sale rules to track and manage For someone making hundreds of trades yearly, the business expense deductions alone can be significant - home office, computers, software, education, etc.
One critical point that often gets overlooked is the timing of the MTM election. You must make this election by the due date (including extensions) of the tax return for the year PRECEDING the year you want it to take effect. So if you want MTM treatment for 2025, you needed to make the election by the due date of your 2024 return (typically April 15, 2025, or October 15 with extension). You can't wait until you see how your 2025 trading goes and then decide - the election must be prospective. There's a limited exception for new traders who can make the election by the due date of the return for the first year they qualify as a trader, but this requires careful documentation that you weren't previously engaged in trading activities. Also worth noting: the MTM election only applies to securities held in connection with your trading business. If you hold some positions as investments (not for trading), those can still receive capital gains treatment, but you need clear documentation distinguishing between your trading inventory and investment holdings from the time of acquisition. The business expense deductions under trader status are substantial but require meticulous record-keeping since the IRS frequently audits trader status claims.
This is really helpful information everyone! I've been dealing with a similar situation with my adult kids - I send them money for textbooks, groceries, etc. and they pay me back for things like car insurance. Probably $400-500/month back and forth. Based on what everyone's shared, it sounds like I don't need to worry for 2024 taxes since the threshold is still $20k AND 200 transactions. But I'm definitely going to start keeping better records just in case. The screenshot idea is brilliant - I usually just send money with a pizza emoji or whatever, but adding actual descriptions makes way more sense. One question though - if these payment apps are making so many mistakes with the 1099-Ks, shouldn't there be some kind of penalty for them when they report personal transfers as income? Seems like they're creating a lot of unnecessary work for taxpayers and the IRS.
You're absolutely right that there should be penalties for incorrect reporting! From what I understand, payment platforms can face fines from the IRS for filing incorrect 1099-Ks, but enforcement has been pretty weak so far. The bigger issue is that many of these companies are being overly cautious and reporting everything rather than risk missing actual business transactions. The good news is that the IRS is aware this is a widespread problem. They've been working with payment processors to improve their systems and provide clearer guidance on what should and shouldn't be reported. That's part of why they keep delaying the $600 threshold - they know the current reporting is a mess. Your approach with better record-keeping is smart. Even though you probably won't hit the thresholds, having that documentation ready will save you major headaches if you ever do receive an incorrect 1099-K.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar boat with my spouse - we probably send $600-800/month between our accounts for bills, groceries, date nights, etc. I've been losing sleep over whether we'd get hit with a massive 1099-K. The clarification about the delayed threshold is huge relief. $20k AND 200 transactions means we're nowhere close for 2024 taxes. But I'm definitely taking everyone's advice about better documentation moving forward. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone actually contacted Meta/Facebook directly about how they're handling the categorization? Their customer service is notoriously terrible, but I'm wondering if there's a way to proactively mark transfers as personal/family payments to avoid issues when the $600 threshold does eventually kick in. Also really appreciate the tools people have shared (taxr.ai and claimyr.com). Even though I might not need them this year, it's good to know they exist for when these rules actually take effect.
Has anyone actually calculated what the reduced per diem would be if certain meals were provided? Like is there an official breakdown for how much of the daily rate is allocated to breakfast vs lunch vs dinner?
The IRS doesn't officially break it down, but the generally accepted allocation (used by many federal agencies) is: Breakfast: 20% of the daily rate Lunch: 30% of the daily rate Dinner: 50% of the daily rate So if your daily per diem rate was $70 and the company provided free breakfast and lunch, you could claim $35 (50% of the daily rate) for dinner. Remember that all business meal deductions (including per diem) are only 50% deductible after you calculate the amount, so you'd ultimately deduct $17.50 per day in this example.
This is exactly the situation I was in last year! I was a 1099 contractor on a 6-month assignment about 400 miles from home. The key thing to remember is that the IRS doesn't care about the total dollar amount - they care about whether your assignment meets the "temporary" criteria (under one year) and whether you're truly away from your tax home. I claimed the full per diem for the entire period and had no issues. The amount does seem high when you calculate it out, but that's just the reality of extended business travel. Make sure you keep detailed records of your assignment dates, the temporary nature of the work, and your tax home location. For the cafeteria situation, I had something similar - free lunch was provided but I had to pay for breakfast and dinner. I calculated partial per diem using the standard breakdown (breakfast 20%, lunch 30%, dinner 50%) and only claimed 70% of the daily rate. Keep good documentation showing which meals were provided versus which you paid for yourself. One tip: consider keeping receipts for a few meals even though you're using per diem. It can help demonstrate that you were actually incurring meal expenses during your assignment if questions ever come up.
This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through this! I'm curious about your suggestion to keep some meal receipts even when using per diem - did you just keep a few random ones or was there a strategy to which meals you kept receipts for? Also, when you calculated the 70% rate for partial meals, did you apply that calculation daily or did you do some kind of weekly/monthly average? I want to make sure I'm being as accurate as possible with my documentation.
I used to work for elderly services. This screams financial exploitation tbh. The attorney and caregiver tag-team blocking you out is sus af
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This is exactly why I always tell people to get their affairs in order early. The IRS doesn't mess around with unreported income, especially when it involves cash payments to caregivers. Your parent's attorney is giving terrible advice - even seniors have filing obligations if they meet income thresholds. I'd recommend getting a second opinion from a tax professional ASAP and maybe consider whistleblower protection if you decide to come forward about the unreported payments. The estate could be looking at serious liability here.
Dylan Cooper
WARNING: You need to be super careful with your US brokerage accounts! Many US financial institutions will FREEZE or even CLOSE your accounts when they find out you have a foreign address. I moved to Australia and lost access to my Vanguard account until I could provide a US address (ended up using my parents'). Also, don't forget about PFIC rules if you invest in non-US mutual funds or ETFs in New Zealand - the tax treatment is BRUTAL. Stick with US-based investments through your existing accounts if possible.
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Sofia Ramirez
ā¢Sadly this is true. I had my Schwab account restricted (couldn't add any new investments) when I moved to Germany. It's ridiculous that being a US citizen abroad makes it harder to keep US financial accounts. I now use a mail forwarding service for a US address.
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Diego Mendoza
Great question! I went through something similar when I moved to the UK a few years ago. A couple of additional points that might help: For your 401(k), you'll want to check if your employer's plan allows contributions while you're on international assignment. Some plans restrict this, but since you mentioned they have Auckland offices, they likely have experience with expat employees. Also consider that if you become an NZ tax resident, your 401(k) growth might be taxable in NZ even if it's tax-deferred in the US - definitely something to discuss with a tax advisor familiar with both systems. Regarding your rental property breaking even - don't forget about depreciation! Even if your cash flow is neutral, you can still claim depreciation on the property which often creates a tax loss on paper. This can be valuable for offsetting other income. One more tip: start keeping detailed records of everything NOW. Track your days in each country (for the physical presence test), keep receipts for moving expenses, and document your ties to NZ vs the US. The IRS loves documentation, and good records will save you headaches later. Also consider opening an account with a US bank that's expat-friendly (like Schwab International) before you move. It's much easier to establish these relationships while you still have a US address.
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Nia Williams
ā¢This is really comprehensive advice, thanks! The point about Schwab International is especially helpful - I hadn't thought about setting up expat-friendly banking before we move. Quick question about the depreciation on our rental property: does that create any issues when we eventually sell? I've heard something about "depreciation recapture" but not sure how that works or if it affects us differently as expats.
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