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Jessica Nolan

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Your probably in a higher tax bracket now with both incomes combined. Its like the govt thinks your making less than you are when each W2 gets procesed separately so they take less tax. Then when you combine them its like "surprise you make more than we thought so give us more money now!" I had this same problm last year when I had two jobs. My tax guy said to always check the "withhold at higher single rate" box on your W4 if you have multiple income sources or just put an extra $50 per check in the "additional withholding" line. Saves the surprize bill in April!

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This is good advice but the W-4 form doesn't have a "withhold at higher single rate" box anymore. They completely redesigned the W-4 in 2020. Now you need to use the "Multiple Jobs" worksheet or just put the additional amount on line 4(c).

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This exact thing happened to me last year! The frustrating part is that both payroll systems were technically calculating withholding "correctly" based on what they knew, but they had incomplete information. What helped me understand it was thinking about it like this: if you make $30k total but each payroll system only sees $15k, they each calculate withholding as if you're in the lower tax brackets for the full year. But when the IRS sees your actual $30k income, some of that money should have been taxed at higher rates. For next year, I'd definitely recommend using the IRS withholding calculator mid-year to check if you're on track. You can also ask HR to withhold an extra $20-30 per paycheck on your W-4 form (line 4c) as a buffer. Better to get a small refund than owe money again! The good news is that once you understand why it happened, it's pretty easy to prevent in the future. Just gotta make sure your withholding accounts for your total expected income, not just what each individual employer sees.

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This is such a helpful explanation! I'm new to dealing with multiple W-2s and this whole thread has been eye-opening. The way you explained it with the $15k vs $30k example really clicked for me. I had no idea that payroll systems worked that way - I always assumed they somehow "knew" about all your income sources. I'm definitely going to check out that IRS withholding calculator you mentioned. Better to be proactive about this stuff than get hit with a surprise bill! Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Michigan Tax Return Under Manual Review Since Feb 11 - Filed MI-1040 and Homestead Property Tax Credit Claim with Possible June Processing

I filed my Michigan state taxes (MI-1040 Individual Income Tax Return and MI-1040CR Homestead Property Tax Credit Claim) on February 4th, 2025, and when I check etreas.michigan.gov eServices, I'm getting a message saying my return is under manual review. When I log into the Michigan Department of Treasury eServices portal under Individual Income Tax, I can see the status shows "Return Under Review" with the following details: Forms Filed: - MI-1040 Individual Income Tax Return - MI-1040CR Homestead Property Tax Credit Claim 2024 Tax Return details: Date: Feb 4, 2025 Description: "We have received your Tax Return." Date: Feb 11, 2025 Description: "If your return status is listed as pending review that means your return was selected for a manual review requiring additional processing" Never seen this before. The automated phone system mentioned something about getting the refund in June? Anyone know what this means and why its taking so long? I'm especially concerned since I filed both the regular return and the homestead property tax credit claim - is this why it's being reviewed? Is this normal for returns that include the Homestead Property Tax Credit Claim? I've filed both forms before without issues. Does "manual review requiring additional processing" mean they found a problem, or is this just random selection? The change in status from received to pending review happened exactly one week after filing.

Ravi Gupta

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I'm in the exact same situation! Filed my MI-1040 and homestead credit on February 6th and it went into manual review status on February 13th. This is my first time dealing with this and I was really stressed thinking I did something wrong on my return. Reading all these comments is actually making me feel so much better - it sounds like this is just standard procedure when you claim the homestead property tax credit. The June timeline is definitely frustrating since I was hoping to use my refund for some home repairs, but at least now I know what to expect. Has anyone tried calling the Treasury department or is it really not worth it like Grace mentioned? I'm tempted to call just to see if there's any additional info they can give, but if it won't speed things up then maybe I should just wait it out πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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Freya Collins

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I called the Treasury department when mine went into manual review last month and honestly, Grace is right - they basically just read you the same info you can see in eServices. The rep told me they can't expedite the process and that calling doesn't change the timeline at all. Save yourself the hold time and just check eServices periodically! The manual review for homestead credits is definitely standard procedure, so try not to stress about it. Your return isn't flagged for problems, it's just going through their verification process πŸ‘

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Going through the exact same thing! Filed my MI-1040 and homestead credit on February 3rd and it switched to manual review on February 10th. I've been checking eServices like every other day hoping for updates but nothing yet. This thread is honestly so helpful - I had no idea this was normal for homestead credit claims! The June timeline is definitely a bummer since I was planning to use my refund for some bills, but at least now I know what to expect. It's wild that Michigan's system flags these credits so consistently for manual review. You'd think after all these years they'd have a more streamlined process, but I guess property verification just takes time. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - makes me feel way less anxious about the whole situation! πŸ˜…

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I just went through this exact scenario! Filed my missing 2021 return via fax on February 28th after getting the 570/971 codes on my 2024 refund. My transcript updated on March 14th with an 846 code and the refund was deposited 3 days later. The whole process took about 16 days from fax to deposit. A few tips that helped me: - Include a cover letter explaining you're filing to release your 2024 refund hold - Reference your current year case number if you have one - Keep checking your transcript every few days for updates - Don't panic if it takes the full 2-3 weeks they quote The IRS seems to be handling these cases pretty efficiently right now. Good luck with yours!

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Heather Tyson

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Thanks for sharing your timeline! This is really helpful. Just to clarify - when you say you referenced your "current year case number," where did you find that? I have the 570/971 codes on my transcript but I'm not seeing any case number listed. Also, did you fax to the general processing center or is there a specific number for these dependency holds? I want to make sure I'm sending mine to the right place!

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I'm currently going through this same situation! Got the 570/971 codes on my 2024 transcript about 10 days ago when I realized I never filed my 2021 return (long story involving a move and some personal issues that year). I faxed my 2021 return on March 5th to the Cincinnati processing center with a cover letter explaining the situation. So far no updates on my transcript, but reading everyone's experiences here gives me hope that it should resolve within the next week or two. One question for those who've been through this - did you get any kind of notice or letter from the IRS before you noticed the hold codes on your transcript? I'm wondering if I missed something in the mail or if the transcript codes are typically the first indication of the issue. Thanks for starting this thread @Malik Robinson - it's really helpful to hear from others in the same boat!

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Sean O'Brien

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I had this exact same thing happen to me two years ago and it was so confusing! I was expecting my refund from the IRS and instead got a deposit from some company I'd never heard of. Like others have mentioned, SBTPG is basically the middleman that TurboTax uses when you choose to have your fees taken out of your refund. The thing that really annoyed me was how they make this sound like a simple convenience during filing, but don't clearly explain that you're actually paying an extra fee AND your refund gets delayed while it goes through their system first. I remember checking the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool and seeing that my refund had been sent, but then waiting several more days for SBTPG to actually deposit it in my account. Ever since then, I just pay the TurboTax fees with my debit card when I file. It's so much simpler - you get your full refund amount directly from the IRS without any third party involved. The peace of mind is worth not having to wonder if some random company legitimately has your money!

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This is so helpful to hear from someone who went through this a couple years ago! I'm actually dealing with this right now and was totally panicked when I saw SBTPG instead of the IRS on my bank statement. Your explanation about the delay makes perfect sense - I was wondering why the IRS website said my refund was processed but I still hadn't received it yet. It's really frustrating that TurboTax doesn't make this process clearer upfront. I definitely would have just paid with my debit card if I'd known about the extra fee and all the confusion it would cause. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to know this is normal even though it's annoying!

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Ava Garcia

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This whole SBTPG situation is exactly why I switched to FreeTaxUSA a few years ago. I got tired of TurboTax's hidden fees and confusing third-party arrangements. With FreeTaxUSA, federal filing is completely free for simple returns, and even their deluxe version is way cheaper than TurboTax without all these middleman complications. When you file with them, your refund comes directly from the IRS - no SBTPG, no extra processing fees, no delays. I know it's too late for this year, but definitely worth considering for next tax season. I've saved hundreds of dollars over the years by switching away from TurboTax's fee structure. Sometimes the "big name" tax software isn't worth the premium you pay!

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Jacob Lee

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That's really interesting about FreeTaxUSA! I've been using TurboTax for years just out of habit, but after this whole SBTPG mess I'm definitely open to trying something else. Do you know if FreeTaxUSA handles more complex situations like rental property income or self-employment? I have a small side business so I need something that can handle Schedule C. The idea of getting my refund directly from the IRS without any third-party complications sounds so much better than dealing with all these hidden fees and delays.

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Changed jobs and overfunded HSA - now W2 is incorrect after excess contribution removal

So I started 2025 working at CompanyFirst with an HSA at HealthSavings. Everything was fine until I switched jobs mid-year and opened a new HSA at WellFunds through my new employer. I made a stupid mistake when setting up my contributions at WellFunds - I put down $4,850 thinking the system would just spread it evenly across my remaining pay periods. Around December, I noticed I had contributed $4,849.90 total for the year between both HSAs, which exceeds the limit. Since WellFunds doesn't charge monthly fees like HealthSavings does, I wanted to keep my funds at WellFunds. I called HealthSavings in late December to do an excess contribution removal for everything except $0.10 to stay under the limit. The timing was bad - I made the request in late 12/2025 and it wasn't processed until early 1/2026. I got my check from HealthSavings and thought everything was resolved. Well, now I got my W2 from CompanyFirst and it still shows the full HSA contribution on line 12c! I've been trying to get CompanyFirst to correct this, but they seem totally confused. First they told me to contact my new employer (which makes zero sense). Then they claimed HealthSavings told them nothing needs to be done since they can't access my account after I left. They mentioned I'll get a 1099 (which I think might be true but for 2026, not 2025). When I call HealthSavings, they insist CompanyFirst needs to make the correction. I tried to set up a three-way call but HealthSavings refused. I'm at my wit's end - what do I need to tell CompanyFirst to get this fixed, or should I just try to correct it myself when filing?

I've been through this exact nightmare! The key issue is timing - since your excess contribution removal was processed in early 2026 but for 2025 tax year contributions, there's a coordination gap between your HSA custodian and employer. Here's what worked for me: Contact CompanyFirst's payroll department (not general HR) and specifically request a "Form W-2c for HSA excess contribution adjustment." Use those exact words. Tell them the HSA custodian processed an excess contribution removal that needs to be reflected on your W-2 for accurate tax reporting. If they claim HealthSavings said "nothing needs to be done," ask them to provide written documentation of this communication. Most companies can't actually produce this because the HSA custodian typically doesn't proactively contact employers about reversals. Also, get a written statement from HealthSavings confirming they processed an excess contribution removal for tax year 2025. This document should include the original contribution amount and the corrected amount that should appear on your W-2. If CompanyFirst still refuses, you can absolutely file using the correct amounts on Form 8889 and attach an explanation statement detailing your attempts to get the W-2 corrected. Include copies of all relevant documentation from HealthSavings.

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Axel Bourke

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I needed! I'm definitely going to try the specific language approach with CompanyFirst's payroll department. You're right that using the exact terms "Form W-2c for HSA excess contribution adjustment" will probably get better results than trying to explain the whole situation to general HR. The timing issue you mentioned makes perfect sense - I never thought about how the early 2026 processing date creates this coordination gap. That's probably why CompanyFirst is confused about what needs to be done. I'm also going to request that written statement from HealthSavings confirming the excess contribution removal. Having that documentation should help convince CompanyFirst that a W-2c is actually necessary, especially if they can't produce any documentation showing HealthSavings told them otherwise. Thanks for laying out the backup plan with Form 8889 too. It's reassuring to know I can move forward with filing even if I can't get the W-2 corrected, as long as I have proper documentation and an explanation statement.

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I'm going through this exact situation right now and it's incredibly frustrating! The communication breakdown between HSA custodians and former employers seems to be a common issue. One thing that helped me was escalating within my former company. Instead of dealing with general HR, I asked to speak with their benefits administrator or the person who handles HSA reporting specifically. They understood the issue immediately and explained that they need to coordinate with their payroll provider to issue the W-2c. The key document you need from HealthSavings is called a "Distribution Statement" or "Excess Contribution Removal Notice" that specifically shows the adjustment was for 2025 tax year contributions. This document should have your SSN, the original contribution amount, the excess amount removed, and importantly, the tax year it applies to (2025). Take this document to CompanyFirst and explain that their W-2 overstates your HSA contribution because of the subsequent excess removal. Most payroll departments understand this once they see the official documentation. If they still won't budge, document everything and file with Form 8889 showing the correct amounts. I've heard from multiple people that the IRS rarely questions this as long as you have proper documentation and include an explanation statement with your return.

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Diego Vargas

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This is really helpful advice about escalating to the benefits administrator! I hadn't thought about asking specifically for the person who handles HSA reporting rather than going through general HR. That makes so much sense - they would definitely understand the technical requirements better. I'm definitely going to request that specific "Distribution Statement" or "Excess Contribution Removal Notice" from HealthSavings. Having an official document that clearly shows it's for 2025 tax year contributions should make it much harder for CompanyFirst to claim they don't need to do anything. It's frustrating that this seems to be such a common issue with the coordination between HSA custodians and employers. You'd think there would be better processes in place to handle these situations, especially since HSA contribution limits make excess contributions fairly common when people change jobs mid-year. Thanks for confirming that filing with Form 8889 and proper documentation is a viable backup plan. It's good to know that multiple people have had success with that approach when the employer won't cooperate.

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