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This is actually a pretty common scenario that catches a lot of people off guard! The wage and income transcript operates on a completely different timeline than your account and return transcripts. Think of it this way - the IRS can process your return and issue your refund based on what YOU reported, but the wage transcript shows what your EMPLOYERS reported to them. These employer submissions get processed in batches and often don't show up in the transcript system until several months later. Since you've already received your refund, it means the IRS was able to match your reported income with their records internally, even if it's not visible in the public transcript system yet. I'd expect to see your wage data populate sometime between now and June, which is totally normal timing.

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StarStrider

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This explanation really helps clarify the difference between what you report versus what employers report! I'm dealing with this exact situation right now and was getting worried something was wrong with my filing. It makes sense that the IRS can process refunds based on your submitted information while still waiting for employer data to flow through their systems. Thanks for breaking down the timeline - June seems like a reasonable expectation to set.

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NeonNova

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I've been through this exact situation multiple times over the years, and it's one of those IRS quirks that seems designed to cause unnecessary anxiety! The key thing to remember is that there are essentially two different data flows happening: your filed return gets processed immediately for refund purposes, while employer-reported data (W-2s, 1099s) goes through a completely separate batch processing system that can take months to appear in transcripts. Since you mentioned you've already received your 2023 refund, that's actually the best indicator that everything matched up correctly on the IRS side - they wouldn't have issued the refund if there were major discrepancies. The wage transcript delay is purely a system limitation, not a reflection of any problems with your tax situation. I typically see most wage transcripts fully populate by late May or early June, so you're well within the normal timeframe.

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This is so reassuring to hear from someone with multiple years of experience with this! I'm going through this exact same thing right now and was starting to panic that maybe my employer didn't submit my W-2 properly or something was wrong with my return. The fact that getting a refund means the IRS already verified everything internally makes total sense - they wouldn't just send money without checking. I'll stop obsessively checking the transcript portal every week and just wait it out until summer. Thanks for the peace of mind!

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One thing to keep in mind - if your mom has any assets (not just income), that could affect her eligibility for certain programs regardless of whether you claim her as a dependent. SSI has an asset limit of $2,000 for individuals, and Medicaid has similar restrictions in many states.

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This is so true! My mom got denied for Medicaid even though her income was low because she had about $5k in her checking account from selling her car. Had to spend that down before she qualified.

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I went through almost the exact same situation with my dad last year. One thing I learned that might help - you can actually run both scenarios with a tax professional before making your final decision for the year. What I did was calculate my potential tax savings from claiming him as a dependent (which was about $1,200 for me), then we researched what benefits he'd lose. In his case, he would have lost SSI eligibility worth about $9,500 annually, plus his Medicaid coverage. The math was clear - NOT claiming him saved our family thousands more than the tax deduction was worth. Plus, once he qualified for those programs, it gave him healthcare coverage and some financial independence, which honestly was worth more than just the dollar amount. One tip: if your mom does have that investment account you mentioned, make sure to track any capital gains carefully. Even small stock sales can push someone over the income limits for these programs. We had to be really strategic about when my dad sold any investments to stay under the thresholds. Also consider consulting with both a tax professional AND someone who specializes in government benefits to make sure you're seeing the full picture. The interaction between tax law and benefit eligibility can be pretty complex.

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TechNinja

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the timing aspect you mentioned with stock sales. If my mom needs to sell some investments for living expenses, is there a way to time it strategically to minimize impact on her benefit eligibility? Like would it matter if she sells at the beginning vs end of the year? Also, when you say you consulted with someone who specializes in government benefits, what type of professional was that? I'm having trouble finding someone locally who understands both the tax and benefits side of this equation.

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Chloe Davis

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Here's what's probably happening: The IRS likely identified something they need to verify or adjust on your return. Instead of stressing, I'd highly recommend using taxr.ai to analyze your transcript. It uses AI to break down exactly what's happening with your return, when to expect correspondence, and most importantly - when you'll likely receive your refund. The tool has been a game-changer for understanding these complex situations. Costs $1 but saves hours of confusion and anxiety. You'll get immediate answers instead of waiting for that letter to show up. Other things you can do: - Set up USPS informed delivery - Make sure your address is current with IRS - Keep checking your transcript for updates - Don't call IRS yet - wait for the letter first Hope this helps!

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Diego Chavez

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Does it work for amended returns too?

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Chloe Davis

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Yep! Works for any type of return - amended, prior year, everything

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I've been through this exact situation before! "Notice Issued" typically means the IRS found something on your return that needs clarification or verification. Don't panic - it's not necessarily bad news, just means they need more info or are making adjustments. The notice will explain exactly what they need from you and give you a timeframe to respond. In my case, it was just identity verification and once I sent the docs back, my refund processed within a few weeks. Keep checking your transcript for updates and make sure to respond quickly once you get the letter!

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Kiara Greene

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's reassuring to hear it worked out for you. How long did it take for the actual letter to arrive after you saw "Notice Issued" on your transcript? I'm hoping it's just something simple like identity verification and not a major issue with my return.

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Don't forget about the financial aid implications! When your kid applies for college, 529 plans owned by parents are counted as parental assets (assessed at a max of 5.64% for financial aid), but 529s owned by grandparents or other relatives used to not count at all until the money was withdrawn. This changed recently though - starting with the 2024-2025 FAFSA, distributions from grandparent-owned 529s no longer count as student income. So the old strategy of having grandparents own the account doesn't have the same advantage it used to. But there's still a consideration with divorce - the custodial parent's finances are what matter for FAFSA. If your ex is the custodial parent and also owns the 529, it could affect financial aid differently than if you (the non-custodial parent) own a separate 529.

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This is incorrect. The new FAFSA does ask about money received from grandparents now. They changed it again!

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I went through a similar situation with my divorce two years ago. Here's what I learned: the key is understanding your state's specific rules about 529 deductions. In my case (Ohio), I had to be the account owner to claim the state tax deduction, so I ended up opening my own 529 account. One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet - check if your state has a "recapture" provision. Some states will require you to pay back previous tax benefits if you change the beneficiary or if the account owner changes. This didn't affect me since I opened a new account, but it's something to be aware of if you're thinking about transferring ownership of the existing account. Also, don't overlook the investment management aspect. When you have separate accounts, you each get to choose your own investment strategy, which can actually be beneficial. My ex is more conservative with investments while I'm more aggressive, so having separate accounts lets us each manage according to our risk tolerance while still working toward the same goal of funding our daughter's education. The paperwork is a bit more complex come tax time, but it's worth it for the flexibility and potential tax benefits.

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Andre Dupont

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Thanks for bringing up the recapture provision - that's something I hadn't heard about before! Do you know which states typically have these rules? I'm in California and wondering if this could affect me if I decide to open my own account versus trying to get added to the existing one my ex owns. Also, when you say the paperwork is more complex at tax time, are you just talking about tracking contributions from multiple accounts, or are there other forms involved?

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Ravi Sharma

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California doesn't have recapture provisions for 529 plans, but that's mainly because California doesn't offer state tax deductions for 529 contributions in the first place! So you wouldn't lose any tax benefits by opening your own account versus being added to your ex's account. Regarding the paperwork complexity, it's mostly about tracking contributions from multiple accounts. You'll need to keep records of how much you contributed to each account for your own records, and if you're in a state that offers deductions, you'll need to report those accurately. There aren't really additional tax forms - the complexity is more about organization and record-keeping to make sure you're not double-counting anything or missing deductions you're entitled to. Since you're in California, the main considerations for you would be control over investment choices and simplicity of tracking rather than tax benefits.

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Has anyone else noticed that these "empty" W2s with only retirement contributions seem to be happening more frequently? My husband and I both got them this year from companies we left in 2019.

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Darcy Moore

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I work in HR and yes, it's becoming more common as companies switch payroll systems or do year-end reconciliations of their retirement plans. Many companies are also doing more detailed compliance reviews of their 401k plans which can lead to adjustments being reported after employees leave.

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This is actually a really common scenario that confuses a lot of people! The $4000 in Box 12a with code D is definitely related to her 401(k) plan from that employer. What likely happened is that the company made their final employer matching contribution or profit-sharing contribution for 2019 after she had already left in November. Many companies don't finalize their retirement plan contributions until after the year ends, so even though she quit in late 2019, they may have processed matching contributions or other employer contributions in early 2020 that were attributable to her 2019 work. This is completely normal and legal. The good news is that this W2 doesn't represent new taxable income for 2020. It's just documenting retirement account activity. She doesn't need to amend her 2019 return or report this as income on her 2020 return. The company is required by law to send this W2 to report the retirement plan activity, even though no wages were paid. I'd still recommend she contact the company's HR department to confirm exactly what the $4000 represents, but she can rest easy knowing this likely won't affect her tax filing at all.

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