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Has your wife's income changed? When both spouses work, your withholding is affected by combined household income. If her income increased significantly, that might explain the higher withholding at your new job. Another thing to check - did you fill out the "multiple jobs" section (Step 2) of your W-4 differently between employers? That can make a huge difference.

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Omar Zaki

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This is what happened to me! My withholding jumped when I switched jobs because I checked the "multiple jobs" box on my new W-4 when I hadn't before. Basically tells them to withhold at a higher rate to account for your spouse's income pushing you into a higher bracket.

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Another thing to consider - are you being paid on the same schedule? You mentioned both are semi-monthly, but if the pay periods fall differently in the calendar year, it can affect how the withholding calculations work. Also, some payroll systems default to higher withholding rates for new employees until they have a full year of data. This is especially common with ADP - they tend to be more conservative with withholding calculations to avoid underpayment penalties. I'd recommend comparing your actual tax liability using a tax calculator to see if you're going to get a huge refund. If so, you might want to adjust your W-4 to reduce the withholding. The IRS withholding calculator that was mentioned earlier is perfect for this.

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Sofia Torres

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This is really helpful context about ADP being more conservative! I didn't realize payroll systems could have different default approaches like that. The timing point is interesting too - my start date was mid-March, so maybe that's affecting the annual calculation somehow? I'm definitely going to use that IRS withholding calculator to see what my actual liability should be. If I'm on track for a massive refund, I'd rather adjust my W-4 now than wait until next April to get my own money back. @Isaiah Thompson - when you mention ADP defaulting to higher rates for new employees, is there typically a timeframe when this adjusts, or do you have to manually request the change?

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Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like there are several key steps for handling NRA tax treaty benefits in ADP: 1. **Start with Form 8233** - This is essential for claiming treaty benefits, not just the W4 2. **Get official IRS documentation** - Having written confirmation from the IRS about your specific treaty benefits gives you much more credibility with your employer 3. **Find the right department** - Look for a dedicated tax team rather than general HR/payroll 4. **Check for ADP's Treaty Benefits module** - Many companies don't even know this exists 5. **Document everything** - Keep records of all communications and forms submitted 6. **Monitor your paychecks closely** - Initial setups are often incorrect and need adjustment For those struggling to get through to the IRS, the services mentioned like Claimyr seem helpful for actually connecting with specialists who understand international tax treaties. The most important thing seems to be persistence and having the right documentation. Don't let your HR department tell you "they don't know how to handle it" - this is a common situation that they should be equipped to deal with, even if it requires some research on their part. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this thread is going to help so many people navigate this confusing process!

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Luis Johnson

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This is an excellent summary of the key steps! As someone just starting to navigate this process, having everything laid out like this is incredibly helpful. I'm particularly interested in the point about ADP's Treaty Benefits module - I had no idea that was even an option. It sounds like many companies aren't utilizing the tools that are actually available to them, which explains why so many HR departments seem lost when it comes to NRA tax issues. One question for the group - for those who have successfully gone through this process, how long did it typically take from submitting Form 8233 to seeing the correct withholding reflected in your paychecks? I want to set realistic expectations for myself and know when to follow up if things aren't moving along. Also, has anyone dealt with this situation when switching jobs mid-year? I'm wondering if there are any additional complications when you've already had some income withheld incorrectly at a previous employer before getting the treaty benefits set up properly at a new job. Thanks again to everyone who has shared their experiences - this community knowledge is invaluable for those of us trying to figure out these complex tax situations!

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Great question about timing and mid-year job switches! From my experience, once you submit Form 8233 and your employer processes it correctly, you should see the adjusted withholding within 1-2 pay periods. However, the initial setup often takes longer because of back-and-forth with payroll to get the ADP settings right. Regarding switching jobs mid-year - this actually happened to me! The key things to know: 1. You'll need to submit a new Form 8233 to your new employer (it's employer-specific) 2. Your previous employer's incorrect withholding can be recovered when you file your tax return 3. Make sure your new employer knows your year-to-date income from all sources when calculating treaty benefits One tip I learned the hard way: if you're switching jobs, try to get a detailed pay stub from your previous employer showing exactly how much federal tax was withheld. This helps your new payroll team calculate the correct remaining treaty exemption for the rest of the year. Also, don't forget that some treaties have annual limits on exemptions, so if you've already used part of your treaty benefit at a previous job, that affects how much your new employer should apply going forward. The IRS documentation route mentioned by others becomes even more valuable in these complex situations!

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Amina Sy

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This is incredibly helpful information about mid-year job switches! I'm actually in a similar situation - started a new job in March after my previous employer completely botched my NRA withholding setup. I had no idea that Form 8233 was employer-specific, so thank you for clarifying that. I was wondering why my new HR department was asking me to fill out all the forms again when I thought it would just transfer over. The point about annual treaty limits is something I hadn't considered either. My treaty with the UK has a $5,000 annual exemption, and I probably used about $1,200 of that at my previous job before I left. So I need to make sure my new employer only applies the remaining $3,800 for the rest of this year. One follow-up question - when you mention getting "detailed pay stub from your previous employer," did you need anything beyond just the YTD federal tax withheld amount? I'm trying to gather all the right documentation before approaching my new payroll team so I don't have to keep going back and forth with missing information. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helping me navigate this complex situation!

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Josef Tearle

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@Amina Sy For the detailed pay stub documentation, you ll'want more than just the YTD federal tax withheld amount. I d'recommend getting: 1. **Total gross income YTD** from your previous employer 2. **Federal income tax withheld YTD** this (is the key number 3.) **Any treaty exemption amounts already applied** though (many employers don t'track this properly 4.) **Your final pay stub** showing these totals The gross income amount is important because your new employer needs to know your total annual earnings to properly calculate the remaining treaty benefit. For example, if your treaty exempts the first $5,000 of annual income and you already earned $15,000 at your previous job, your new employer needs to know this to set up withholding correctly. Also, I d'suggest bringing a copy of your treaty s'specific article that applies to your situation. With the UK treaty, make sure you know which article covers your type of income employment (vs. business profits vs. other income since) the exemption rules can vary. One more tip - if your previous employer didn t'apply treaty benefits at all, make sure to clarify this with your new payroll team. They might assume some exemption was already taken when it actually wasn t,'which could lead to under-withholding at your new job.

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I'm also banking with Capital One and experiencing the exact same thing! My DDD is 2/24 as well, and like you, I've been checking multiple times today with no pending transaction showing. After reading through all these responses, I feel so much better knowing this is completely normal for Capital One - they apparently just don't show IRS deposits as pending like other banks do. I filed on February 3rd and got accepted the same day, so our timelines are very similar. It sounds like we should expect our refunds to just appear Saturday morning without any prior warning, probably in the early morning hours. I'm definitely going to stop the obsessive checking and just look once on Saturday! This thread has been incredibly reassuring for those of us new to Capital One's deposit process.

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I'm going through the exact same thing! This is my first tax refund with Capital One and I was starting to panic thinking I did something wrong with my filing. My DDD is also 2/24 and I've been refreshing the app constantly since Wednesday. It's such a relief to read everyone's experiences here - I had no idea Capital One was so different from other banks in not showing pending government deposits. I switched from TD Bank where everything showed pending for days, so this "stealth mode" approach is totally new to me. I filed on January 29th and got accepted within a few hours, so our filing timeline is almost identical. I'm definitely going to take everyone's advice and stop checking obsessively - just one check early Saturday morning and hopefully we'll both wake up to our refunds! Thanks for posting this - it's comforting to know other people are in the exact same situation.

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Nia Watson

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I'm also a Capital One customer with a DDD of 2/24 and experiencing the exact same anxiety! This thread has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea Capital One handled IRS deposits so differently from other banks. I've been with them for about 6 months after switching from Chase, and Chase always showed pending deposits 2-3 days early, so when nothing appeared this week I was convinced something went wrong with my return. Reading everyone's experiences here is so reassuring! It sounds like Capital One's "stealth mode" approach is completely normal - no pending notifications, just the refund appearing overnight on the DDD. I filed on February 1st and got accepted within hours, so my timeline is very similar to yours. For what it's worth, I also have a slight name variation concern (my tax return shows my full middle name but my bank account only has the middle initial), but based on what others have shared, this seems to rarely cause issues as long as SSN and account details match. I'm definitely going to stop checking every few hours and just look once early Saturday morning. Thanks for starting this thread - it's amazing how much peace of mind comes from knowing others are going through the exact same experience!

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StarSeeker

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I'm so glad you posted this! I'm also completely new to Capital One (just opened my account in December) and have been going through the exact same panic. My DDD is 2/24 too and I've been obsessively checking since Tuesday with absolutely nothing showing. Coming from Wells Fargo where pending deposits showed up days in advance, I was convinced I messed something up on my tax return. This whole thread has been such a lifesaver - I had no clue that Capital One's "ninja deposit" approach was their normal process for IRS refunds! I filed on Feb 2nd so we're all on very similar timelines. It's incredible how much anxiety this whole thing causes when you don't know what to expect. I'm definitely taking everyone's advice and setting an alarm for early Saturday morning instead of checking every hour. Thank you and everyone else for sharing - knowing we're all in the same boat makes this so much less stressful!

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Luca Romano

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Jsut a heads up the NY state tax dept is VERY aggressive about claiming people as residents. I know 2 travel nurses who got audited cause they worked more than 183 days in NY but claimed florida as there home. One lost and had to pay like $12k in back taxes plus penalties. Make sure u can prove u have ACTUAL significant expenses in florida not just mail going there. NY will absolutely count the days u spend in the state and if its over 183 theyre gonna come after u.

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Nia Jackson

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New York considers you a statutory resident if you maintain a "permanent place of abode" in NY and spend more than 183 days there. Since you're renting a room in NYC and working consistently in the area, you need to be extremely careful with your day count. I'd recommend consulting with a tax professional who specializes in multi-state taxation specifically for healthcare travelers. New York is notoriously aggressive with residency audits, especially with high-income professionals like travel nurses who claim residency in no-income-tax states like Florida.

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Lucas Adams

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Isabella, your situation is definitely complex and you're right to be concerned! Based on what you've described, there are some red flags that could put you at risk with the IRS. The biggest issue is that you're spending most of your time in the NYC area (sounds like potentially over 183 days) while only visiting Florida briefly between assignments. The IRS looks at where you actually conduct your life and work, not just where your mail goes. To strengthen your Florida tax home claim, you'd need to establish regular, substantial expenses there - not just occasional dinners. Consider: - Setting up a formal rental agreement with your cousin (even $300-400/month with a written lease) - Keeping a vehicle registered/insured in Florida - Maintaining a storage unit for your belongings - Documenting every day you spend in Florida with receipts, photos, etc. Given that your husband is based at LaGuardia and you're consistently working in the NYC area, you might want to seriously consider whether establishing NYC as your official tax home would be simpler and safer in the long run. Yes, you'd lose some tax advantages, but audit protection might be worth it. I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who specializes in travel healthcare workers before your next filing. The potential penalties from an unsuccessful audit could be substantial.

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This is a really frustrating situation, but you're handling it the right way by documenting everything and filing with the labor board. From a tax perspective, you're actually in a straightforward position - you only need to report the income that's actually shown on your W-2 for 2024, regardless of what you should have been paid. One thing I'd add to the great advice already given: make sure to keep copies of ALL your documentation (timesheets, pay stubs, communications with your employer) in multiple places - digital copies, physical copies, maybe even email them to yourself. If this drags out or if your employer tries to retaliate, having bulletproof documentation will be crucial. Also, don't let your employer intimidate you about this. What they're doing is wage theft, plain and simple, and it's illegal in every state. The fact that they're claiming it's for "break times" or that you were "rounding up" when you have documentation proving otherwise shows they know they're in the wrong. Stay strong and keep fighting for what you're owed!

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Evelyn Xu

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This is such solid advice, especially about keeping multiple copies of documentation. I learned this the hard way when dealing with a similar situation - my employer "mysteriously" lost their copies of my timesheets when I started asking questions. Having digital backups saved me. One thing I'd add: if you have any text messages or emails where your manager discusses the hour changes (even if they're trying to justify it), screenshot those immediately. Employers sometimes delete digital communications once they realize there might be legal issues. Also, if you have coworkers who witnessed the time manipulation or experienced it themselves, get their contact info now in case you need witness statements later. You're absolutely doing the right thing by not backing down. Wage theft affects way more workers than people realize, and employers often count on people being too intimidated to fight back.

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I went through something very similar with a previous employer who was consistently "adjusting" my hours downward. One additional thing to consider - if your employer has been doing this systematically, they may also owe you interest or penalties on the unpaid wages, depending on your state's laws. When you file your complaint with the labor board, ask specifically about penalty wages (sometimes called "waiting time penalties") that might apply if your employer willfully withheld wages. In some states, employers can be required to pay additional compensation equal to your daily wage for each day the wages remain unpaid, up to a certain maximum. Also, keep an eye on your next few paychecks to make sure your employer doesn't retaliate by further manipulating your hours or suddenly finding reasons to reduce your shifts. Document everything going forward too - retaliation for filing wage complaints is illegal and can strengthen your case significantly. The tax advice others have given is spot on - just report what's on your W-2 this year, and any settlement will be taxable when you actually receive it. But don't let the potential tax implications discourage you from pursuing what you're rightfully owed. $1,718 is nothing to sneeze at!

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