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Is the threshold REALLY $2,600 for 2025? I thought it was way lower. Anyone know where I can find the official number? My 17-year-old niece babysits for us regularly and I pay her about $220/month...trying to figure out if I'm supposed to be doing all this tax withholding stuff.
It's actually $2,500 for 2024 and will likely be around $2,600 for 2025 after inflation adjustment (IRS hasn't announced final 2025 numbers yet). So at $220/month, you're paying about $2,640 annually - possibly just over the threshold. But there's another rule - if your niece is under 18 and childcare isn't her primary occupation, you don't have to withhold FICA taxes. However, you might still need to issue a W-2. Check Publication 926 (Household Employer's Tax Guide) on the IRS website for all the details.
The confusion around household employee classification is totally understandable - I went through the same thing when I hired my first regular babysitter. The key insight that helped me was realizing it's not about the TYPE of work being done, but about the RELATIONSHIP and control factors. Here's what I learned: If you directly hire an individual (not a company), set their schedule, provide significant direction on how work should be performed, and they work primarily or exclusively for you, they're likely a household employee regardless of whether they're a nanny, housekeeper, or gardener. The reason most people don't treat cleaning services as household employees is because they typically hire COMPANIES, not individuals. When ABC Cleaning Service sends someone to your house, that person is employed by ABC Cleaning Service, not by you. But if you directly hire Maria the housekeeper, pay her personally, tell her what rooms to prioritize and how you like things cleaned, and she only works for your family - then yes, she's likely your household employee even though most people don't realize this. The $2,600 threshold (estimated for 2025) does provide some relief for occasional help, but regular weekly or bi-weekly arrangements often exceed this amount pretty quickly.
Has anyone actually gotten audited over the transition from Schedule C to S-Corp with home office deductions? I'm in the same situation, had about $9k of accumulated Form 8829 depreciation, then formed an S-Corp last year. My tax guy says not to worry, but I keep hearing horror stories about S-Corp audits.
A friend of mine did! He didn't properly document the switch from Schedule C to S-Corp and didn't set up either an accountable plan or rental agreement. The IRS disallowed a bunch of home office expenses his S-Corp had been deducting and hit him with penalties. They were especially interested in the depreciation from his Sch C years. Make sure you have proper documentation!!!
This is exactly the situation I went through two years ago! The $11k accumulated depreciation from your Schedule C years doesn't disappear, but it also doesn't transfer to your S-Corp. It stays "attached" to your personal property and will reduce your home's cost basis when you eventually sell. For your current S-Corp situation, I'd strongly recommend the accountable plan approach over the rental method. With an accountable plan, your S-Corp can reimburse you for actual home office expenses (utilities, insurance, repairs, etc.) based on the business percentage of your home. The reimbursements are tax-deductible to the S-Corp and not taxable income to you, as long as you follow proper documentation requirements. The key is to keep detailed records: calculate your office square footage percentage, track all home-related expenses, and maintain receipts. Your S-Corp should have a written accountable plan policy and reimburse you within a reasonable time frame. One thing your accountant should clarify - you can't depreciate the same space through both your personal return (from Sch C years) AND through S-Corp reimbursements. The IRS is very clear about avoiding double benefits. But you can definitely start fresh with current year expenses through the S-Corp structure.
This is really helpful! I'm just starting my research on this exact transition. When you say "written accountable plan policy" - is this something formal that needs to be filed somewhere, or just internal documentation for the S-Corp? And do you happen to know if there's a minimum reimbursement frequency requirement, or can the S-Corp just reimburse quarterly when I submit expense reports? Also, when you mention calculating the business percentage - I assume this is based on square footage like the old Schedule C method? My office is about 280 sq ft out of 2,100 total, so roughly 13%. Does that sound right for the reimbursement calculations?
Has anybody used TurboTax for multiple Schedule C forms? Their interface is confusing me when trying to allocate home expenses between different businesses.
I used TurboTax Self-Employed last year for my two side hustles. You need to create separate Schedule C sections for each business, and when you get to the home office part, it should ask if you've already claimed this space for another business. Then it helps you allocate the percentage between them. Make sure you're using the Self-Employed version though, not Deluxe or Premier, or you won't get the full Schedule C support.
Just wanted to add some clarity on the home office deduction allocation since I went through this exact situation last year. When you have multiple businesses operating from the same home space, the IRS expects you to use a reasonable method to allocate expenses. The most common approaches are: 1. Time-based allocation - if you spend 70% of your work hours on consulting and 30% on VA services, split your home office deduction accordingly 2. Revenue-based allocation - divide based on the income each business generates 3. Equal allocation - 50/50 split if both businesses use the space equally Document whichever method you choose with records like time logs, income statements, or usage schedules. The key is being consistent and reasonable - the IRS cares more about having a logical system than the specific method you use. Also, that $1,500 tax bill might be accurate unfortunately. Remember that as a self-employed person, you're paying both regular income tax AND self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare) on your net profit. Even small amounts of self-employment income can result in surprising tax bills due to the 15.3% self-employment tax rate.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm new to self-employment taxes and that 15.3% self-employment tax rate explains why my estimated tax bill was so much higher than I expected. I was only calculating regular income tax rates in my head. For the allocation methods you mentioned, would it be okay to use time-based allocation for one type of expense (like home office) but revenue-based for something else like internet costs? Or do I need to pick one method and stick with it for all shared expenses? Also, do you know if there's a minimum income threshold where the self-employment tax kicks in? I'm wondering if keeping each business under a certain amount might help with the tax burden.
Has anyone used the "substantially equal periodic payments" (SEPP) method to withdraw from a SEP IRA? I'm considering this to avoid the 10% penalty since I'm only 52.
I've been doing SEPP (72t distributions) from my SEP for about 2 years now. It works but be super careful - if you mess up even one payment amount or timing, the IRS can retroactively apply penalties to ALL your previous withdrawals. I recommend getting professional help setting it up. Also, you're locked into the payment schedule until you're 59ยฝ or for 5 years, whichever is longer.
This is a really complex situation that highlights why SEP IRAs can be tricky for people who transition from business to personal contributions. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like you have a few different issues to untangle: 1. Tax withholding on withdrawals - as mentioned, SEP IRA distributions will have taxes withheld regardless of how you contributed 2. Missed deductions - if you contributed from personal funds after closing your business but didn't claim tax deductions, you may have double-taxed that money 3. Potential amended returns - you might be able to recover some of those missed deductions if you're still within the filing window Given how complicated this has gotten, I'd strongly recommend getting professional help to sort out your contribution history and determine exactly what your tax situation is before making any withdrawals. The stories others shared about using services like taxr.ai or getting through to actual IRS agents via Claimyr sound like they could be really helpful for someone in your position. Don't let this drag on - the longer you wait, the fewer options you'll have for recovering those missed deductions.
This is really helpful advice! As someone new to SEP IRAs, I'm wondering if there's a way to prevent this kind of confusion from happening in the first place. Should people always work with a tax professional when setting up a SEP IRA, especially if they're transitioning between business and personal situations? It seems like there are so many rules and potential pitfalls that could cost thousands of dollars if you get them wrong.
Ben Cooper
Anyone know how the amortization works for the amounts above $5,000? My startup costs were about $8,200 and organizational were about $2,800. I understand I can deduct $5k of startup costs immediately, but how do I handle amortizing the remaining $3,200?
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Harold Oh
โขFor your situation, you'd deduct the full $5,000 of your startup costs immediately on your Schedule C. The remaining $3,200 would be amortized over 180 months (15 years), which means you can deduct about $213 per year for the next 15 years ($3,200 รท 180 ร 12 months for a full year). For your organizational costs, since the total is under $5,000 (at $2,800), you can deduct the entire amount in the first year. Make sure you attach an election statement to your return stating you're electing to amortize startup costs under Section 195 and deduct organizational costs under Section 709 (assuming you're filing as a partnership) or Section 248 (if filing as a corporation).
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Connor O'Reilly
This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with my new single-member LLC and had been stressing about these deductions. One thing I want to add - make sure you keep really detailed records of what you spent and when. I created a spreadsheet categorizing each expense as either startup or organizational from day one, which made tax prep so much easier. Also, for anyone wondering about timing - the IRS considers your business to have "begun" when you start offering goods/services to customers, not when you filed your LLC paperwork. So expenses before that date are typically startup/organizational, while expenses after are regular business deductions. This distinction was crucial for me since I had some overlap expenses right around my launch date. The election statement requirement that @Manny mentioned is super important - I almost forgot to include it and caught it at the last minute. Better to be safe than sorry with the IRS!
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Benjamin Carter
โขGreat point about the timing distinction! I'm just getting started with my LLC formation and hadn't thought about when exactly the "business began" for tax purposes. When you say "offering goods/services to customers" - does that mean the first sale, or just when you're ready to accept customers? I've set up my website and marketing but haven't made my first sale yet. Want to make sure I'm categorizing my recent expenses correctly between startup costs and regular business expenses.
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