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My sister works at H&R Block and says you might qualify for a workaround. Even though job expenses aren't deductible anymore for W2 employees, if you have a legitimate side business (even something small), you might be able to allocate some of those expenses to that business on Schedule C. Like if you do any consulting or selling on the side, some of your phone bill or car expenses could potentially be allocated to that business.
I need to jump in here because this suggestion could lead to audit trouble. The IRS is very clear that expenses must be allocated properly between different activities. You can't take expenses that are clearly related to your W2 job and artificially assign them to a side business just to get a deduction. If you have a legitimate side business, then yes, you can deduct expenses that are actually for that business. But creating a side business just to deduct W2 expenses, or improperly allocating W2 job expenses to a side business, could be considered tax fraud.
Sorry, I should have been clearer. I wasn't suggesting creating a fake business or misallocating expenses! I meant that if OP already has a legitimate side business, some expenses that benefit both activities (like a cell phone used for both) could have the appropriate portion allocated to the side business. Many salespeople I know do have side gigs like consulting or training, and properly allocating shared expenses is totally legitimate. But you're absolutely right that you can't just make up a business or improperly allocate expenses that are purely for your W2 job.
I'm in a similar situation as a commissioned sales rep and want to share what I learned after going through this exact same confusion last year. The federal deduction elimination really stings, but there are still some legitimate strategies to explore. First, definitely look into state deductions if you're in a state that didn't conform to the federal changes. Second, consider having a conversation with your sales manager about expense reimbursement - many dealerships are willing to reimburse legitimate business expenses if you can make a case for it, especially if you're a solid performer. Also, make sure you're tracking everything meticulously even if you can't deduct it federally right now. The suspension of employee business expense deductions is scheduled to expire in 2026, so having good records could pay off when that deduction potentially returns. One thing I wish I'd known earlier: some training expenses might qualify for education credits instead of business deductions, which could still provide tax benefits even as a W2 employee. Worth looking into with a tax professional who understands sales compensation.
This is really helpful advice, especially the point about tracking everything even though we can't deduct it federally right now. I hadn't thought about the 2026 expiration date - that gives me hope that this situation might improve in a couple years. The education credits angle is interesting too. Some of those sales training courses I mentioned taking were pretty expensive, so if they could qualify for education credits instead of business deductions, that might actually work out better. Do you know if there are specific requirements for training to qualify as education credits for someone who's already working in sales? Also, I'm curious about your experience approaching your sales manager about expense reimbursement. What kind of expenses were they most willing to cover, and how did you frame the conversation? I'm worried about seeming like I'm complaining about costs or asking for special treatment.
Great question about the education credits! For sales training to qualify for education credits, it generally needs to either maintain or improve skills required in your current job, or meet requirements of your employer/law for keeping your job. The tricky part is that it can't be training that qualifies you for a new trade or business. Since you're already working in sales, courses that enhance your existing sales skills (like advanced negotiation, customer relationship management, or industry-specific product training) have a good chance of qualifying. Keep all documentation showing the course content relates directly to your current role. For the expense reimbursement conversation, I framed it as an investment in my performance rather than asking for help with costs. I prepared a simple proposal showing how certain expenses (client entertainment, training, professional subscriptions) directly contributed to my sales results. I used specific examples like "the sales methodology course I took helped me close X additional deals worth $Y in commissions to the dealership." Most sales managers understand that top performers need tools and training to stay competitive. The key is connecting your expenses to measurable business results and presenting it as a win-win rather than just asking for money back.
Has anyone here successfully negotiated down a surprise CPA bill? My accountant just hit me with a $425 charge for what was basically a 10-minute phone call about retirement account contributions. I'm furious but don't want to burn bridges since tax season is coming up.
I did! I got a $300 bill reduced to $75 by calmly pointing out that we'd never discussed rates for phone consultations and that I'd have chosen email (which was covered in my package) had I known. I basically said "I value your expertise and am happy to pay for it, but I need transparency about costs upfront so I can make informed decisions." They were actually pretty reasonable once I framed it that way.
This situation is unfortunately more common than it should be. As someone who's dealt with similar billing surprises, I'd recommend documenting everything - the timestamps, your previous email exchanges that weren't billed, and any informal agreements you had. The key issue here isn't whether CPAs deserve compensation (they absolutely do), but the lack of transparency. Professional service providers should establish billing expectations upfront, especially when changing their practices. The fact that similar consultations were previously free creates a reasonable expectation that this would be too. I'd suggest having a calm conversation with your CPA about establishing clear billing guidelines going forward. Something like: "I respect your expertise and am willing to pay for consultations, but I need to know rates and billing policies in advance so I can make informed decisions about how to seek advice." If they're unwilling to be transparent about future billing or adjust this surprise charge, it might be time to find an accountant who communicates their fee structure clearly from the start.
This is excellent advice about documentation and setting clear expectations going forward. I'm actually dealing with something similar right now and wondering - when you had that conversation about establishing billing guidelines, did you put the new agreement in writing? I'm worried about having another "he said/she said" situation down the road if we just discuss it verbally.
Absolutely get it in writing! I learned this the hard way from my first surprise billing incident. After our conversation, I followed up with an email summarizing what we discussed: "Just to confirm our conversation today, going forward you'll notify me if any question will require billable time beyond what's included in our annual service, and your rate for additional consultations is $X per hour with Y minimum billing increment." Then I asked them to reply confirming the terms. This way there's a clear paper trail and no room for misunderstandings later. It actually made our working relationship much better because we both knew exactly what to expect.
Bit of a related question - has anyone successfully deducted home office expenses for their payment app income? I use a dedicated room in my apartment exclusively for the graphic design work that I get paid for through Venmo, but I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle or if it increases audit risk.
Yes, you can absolutely deduct home office expenses if you have a space used "regularly and exclusively" for business. Since you have a dedicated room, you likely qualify. You can use either the simplified method ($5 per square foot, up to 300 sq ft) or the regular method (calculating actual expenses). The simplified method is less paperwork but might result in a smaller deduction depending on your costs. The regular method requires tracking actual expenses (portion of rent, utilities, etc.) but could be more beneficial. TurboTax has a good section that walks you through both options so you can compare. As for audit risk, having a dedicated room that's used exclusively for business puts you in a much safer position than those claiming partial rooms or shared spaces. Just take photos of your workspace and keep them with your tax records as documentation.
As someone who dealt with this exact situation last year, I want to emphasize something that might not be obvious - make sure you're distinguishing between gross receipts and actual taxable income when you report on Schedule C. For example, if you received $9,500 through payment apps but $1,200 of that was reimbursements from clients for materials you purchased for their projects, you'd only report $8,300 as gross receipts (assuming you're also deducting those material costs as business expenses). Also, don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments for next year if your side gig income continues. Since payment apps don't withhold taxes like employers do, you might owe penalties if you end up owing more than $1,000 when you file. The IRS expects you to pay as you go, not just at year-end. One more tip: If you're using TurboTax, when you get to the Schedule C section, it will ask about your business code. For graphic design work, you'll want to use NAICS code 541430 (Graphic Design Services). This helps ensure your return is processed correctly and your deductions align with what the IRS expects for your type of business.
This is really helpful, especially the part about distinguishing gross receipts from taxable income. I never thought about client reimbursements potentially being reported incorrectly. Quick question about the quarterly payments - is there a minimum threshold where you need to start making them? I'm worried about underpaying and getting hit with penalties, but I also don't want to overpay if my income varies a lot month to month. Should I just estimate conservatively based on last year's income?
I'm going through almost the exact same thing right now! Filed my Form 5329 about 7 weeks ago for a missed RMD (also due to advisor issues - mine moved firms and the transition got messy). Got that same frustratingly vague acknowledgment letter that tells you absolutely nothing useful. Reading through all these responses is actually making me feel much better about the situation. It sounds like this is just how the IRS operates with Form 5329 submissions - they send the generic "we got it" letter first, then take their sweet time processing everything before sending any kind of final resolution. The timeline everyone's mentioning (8-12 weeks) seems pretty consistent across different people's experiences. I'm trying to be patient but it's hard when you're wondering if you're going to get hit with additional penalties or complications. At least I know I'm not the only one dealing with this kind of confusing communication from the IRS!
Logan, I'm glad you found the responses here helpful! It's such a relief to know that others have gone through this exact same confusing process. I was starting to wonder if I had done something wrong when I got that vague letter, but it sounds like the IRS just has a really standard (and unfortunately uninformative) way of handling these Form 5329 submissions. The advisor transition issues seem to be pretty common too - it's frustrating how these kinds of changes can slip through the cracks and lead to missed RMDs. At least we're both being proactive about fixing the situation rather than just ignoring it and hoping it goes away! I'm at about 6-7 weeks myself, so we're probably on similar timelines. Fingers crossed we both get our resolution letters soon and can put this whole stressful situation behind us. Thanks for sharing your experience - it helps to know I'm not alone in this waiting game!
I've been following this thread closely because I'm dealing with a very similar situation - missed RMD due to a communication breakdown with my financial institution, filed Form 5329 with penalty payment about 5 weeks ago, and got that same maddeningly vague acknowledgment letter. What I'm finding really valuable here is seeing the consistent timeline everyone is reporting (8-12 weeks) and hearing that paying the penalty upfront along with an explanation letter generally leads to successful resolution. It's also reassuring to know that these generic acknowledgment letters are completely normal and don't indicate any problems with your submission. One thing I wanted to add for anyone else reading this - I learned that it's worth keeping detailed records of everything during this process. I'm maintaining a simple log with dates of when I submitted the form, when I received the acknowledgment letter, when my check was cashed, etc. If I do need to call the IRS later or if any issues arise, having all those details readily available will make the conversation much more productive. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences here - it's really helping reduce the anxiety of waiting for the IRS to finish processing everything!
Grace Patel
Just to share my experience - I had capital losses in 2021 and didn't file in 2022 (no income that year). When I filed in 2023 with income, I was still able to use my remaining capital losses from 2021. The IRS didn't question it at all.
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ApolloJackson
ā¢That's really helpful to know! Did you use a tax professional or did you file yourself? I'm in the same boat but nervous about doing it wrong.
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Daniel White
I can confirm what others have said - you don't need to file just to preserve your capital loss carryover. I was in a similar situation a couple years back with about $5K in losses and took a year off from working. When I resumed filing the following year, all my losses were still available to use. The key thing is to keep good records of your original loss calculation from last year's return. Make copies of your Schedule D and any supporting worksheets that show how you arrived at the $6,500 loss. The IRS doesn't make these disappear just because you don't file in a zero-income year. That said, focus on your health recovery - that's way more important than worrying about tax filings right now. Your losses will be there when you're ready to get back to earning income and filing returns again.
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Jason Brewer
ā¢This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through this exact situation! I'm in a similar spot with health issues taking priority over work right now. Just to clarify - when you resumed filing and claimed those losses, did you need any special documentation beyond your old Schedule D? I'm wondering if I should also keep my brokerage statements from the year I realized the losses, just in case the IRS wants to see the original transaction details.
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