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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation - considering a $22,000 loan to my daughter for her small business startup. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like the key points are: 1. Charge at least the AFR rate to avoid imputed interest issues 2. Document everything properly with a promissory note 3. Consider the gift strategy to offset interest payments 4. Make sure it's legally enforceable in your state One question I have that I don't think was fully addressed - if the loan is for business purposes, does that change any of the tax implications? I'm wondering if there are different rules when the family member is using the money for business investment versus personal expenses like home purchases or education. Also, for those who used the various services mentioned (taxr.ai, claimyr), did you find the cost was worth it compared to just consulting with a local tax professional? I'm trying to weigh whether to handle this myself with online tools or bite the bullet and pay for professional advice.

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Romeo Barrett

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Great question about business loans! When the loan is for business purposes, the tax treatment is generally the same - you still need to charge at least the AFR rate to avoid imputed interest. However, there's a potential advantage for your daughter: if she uses the loan proceeds for business purposes, the interest payments she makes to you would likely be tax-deductible as a business expense on her tax return. This actually makes the gift strategy even more appealing because she gets the business deduction for the interest expense, while you can gift her money to cover those payments (staying within the annual gift exclusion limits). Regarding the online tools vs. local professionals - I used one of the services mentioned here for a $16k family loan last year and found it much more cost-effective than the $600+ quotes I was getting from CPAs. The key is that these tools are specifically designed for common scenarios like family loans, so they have all the templates and guidance built in. A local professional might be worth it if you have unusual circumstances, but for straightforward family business loans, the online tools seem to cover all the bases pretty well.

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Jay Lincoln

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One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure to keep detailed records of all payments received. The IRS can audit family loans, especially larger ones like yours at $19,000, and they'll want to see that it's being treated as a legitimate loan rather than a disguised gift. I learned this the hard way when my family loan got selected for audit. Even though we had a promissory note, I hadn't been tracking payments systematically. The IRS agent wanted to see bank records showing regular payments being made according to the agreed schedule. Fortunately everything worked out, but it would have been much smoother if I'd kept better documentation from the start. Also consider setting up automatic transfers for the payments if possible - it creates a clear paper trail and removes any awkwardness around asking for payments. Your brother-in-law can set up a monthly auto-transfer from his account to yours, which makes it feel more businesslike and less personal.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Definitely don't add it to next year's taxes! Each tax year is separate, and putting income from 2024 on your 2025 return would technically be incorrect for both years. Just wait for the IRS notice. And FWIW I work at a bank - we're required to issue 1099-INTs for any interest of $10 or more, but we're also supposed to send paper copies unless you specifically opted for electronic statements only. Worth checking your bank settings for next year!

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Carmen Ortiz

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Wait seriously? I thought the minimum for reportable interest was like $600 just like for 1099-NECs? They really make you report anything over $10??

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Yuki Tanaka

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Different forms have different reporting thresholds. For 1099-INT, banks must issue them for interest of $10 or more. For 1099-NEC (formerly 1099-MISC for non-employee compensation), the threshold is $600. Other forms have different thresholds too. For example, 1099-K for payment processors was supposed to drop to a $600 threshold but they delayed that change. It's confusing because there's no single standard amount across all 1099 forms.

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Natalie Khan

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Don't stress too much about this! As others have mentioned, the IRS will likely catch this automatically through their matching system since banks report all 1099-INTs directly to them. For such a small amount ($43), you'll probably just get a notice in a few months adjusting your tax liability. The actual tax impact is minimal - even if you're in a higher tax bracket, we're talking about maybe $10-15 in additional tax owed. The IRS generally doesn't impose penalties for small, honest oversights like this, especially when it's clear there was no intent to evade taxes. I'd recommend just waiting for their adjustment notice rather than filing an amended return. The cost and hassle of amending isn't worth it for this amount. Keep good records of this situation in case you need to reference it later, and maybe set a reminder to double-check all your online banking portals before filing next year!

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This is such a common confusion! I went through the exact same thing when I applied for my EIN last year. After reading through IRS Publication 583 and talking to a tax professional, here's what I learned: The "Sole Proprietor Start Date" should be when you first began operating as a business - which in your case would be 12 years ago when you started as an independent contractor. The IRS considers you to be in business from the moment you start providing services with the intent to make a profit, regardless of whether you're working through agencies or directly with clients. The key distinction is that as an independent contractor, you were never an employee of those tutoring companies - you were providing services as a business entity (sole proprietorship). When you expanded to direct clients 4 years ago, you didn't start a new business, you just grew your existing one. For what it's worth, I used January 1st of the year I started freelancing since I couldn't remember the exact date, and it was processed without any issues. The IRS really just needs this for their records - it won't create any retroactive obligations or problems for you. Good luck with your solo 401k setup!

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Luca Marino

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This is really helpful! I've been putting off getting my EIN for my freelance work because I was confused about this exact issue. Your explanation about being in business from the moment you start providing services with intent to make profit really clarifies things. I've been doing freelance web development through platforms like Upwork for about 3 years, so sounds like I should use that start date rather than when I got my first direct client last year. Thanks for mentioning Publication 583 too - I'll definitely check that out!

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I actually just went through this same situation a few months ago! After dealing with the confusion and getting conflicting advice from different sources, I ended up calling the IRS directly (yes, it took forever on hold) and speaking with an agent who clarified this for me. The agent explained that your sole proprietorship began when you first started earning income as an independent contractor - so that would be 12 years ago in your case. Even though you were working through tutoring companies, you were still operating as a sole proprietor because you weren't their employee. The fact that you later expanded to direct clients doesn't change when your business actually started. What really helped me was looking at my old tax returns. If you were filing Schedule C or reporting self-employment income 12 years ago, that's your proof that you were already operating as a sole proprietor. If you can't remember the exact date, just use January 1st of that year - the IRS mainly cares about getting the year right. I used my original contractor start date from 8 years ago (even though I didn't start direct clients until 3 years ago) and got my EIN approved immediately. Been using it for my solo 401k ever since with no issues. You're going to love having that retirement account set up - better late than never is right!

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This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear! It's reassuring to know that using the original contractor start date worked out fine for you. I'm definitely leaning toward the 12-year-ago date now based on all the responses here. Quick question though - when you called the IRS, did they mention anything about needing documentation to prove when you started? I'm a bit worried they might ask for records from way back then, and honestly my record-keeping wasn't great in those early years. Also, thanks for the encouragement about the solo 401k - I'm excited to finally get serious about retirement savings!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I went through the same confusion when I first started dealing with S-Corp taxation. One additional tip that saved me a lot of headache: make sure you understand the difference between distributions and salary from your S-Corp, as they're handled completely differently on your personal return. Salary from your S-Corp gets reported on your W-2 and goes on your 1040 as regular wages. Distributions, on the other hand, aren't taxable income at all - they're just a return of your investment in the company (as long as they don't exceed your basis). The K-1 income that flows to Schedule E represents your share of the S-Corp's profits, which is completely separate from both your salary and any distributions you received. This was the piece that finally made everything click for me - the K-1 income is what you owe taxes on regardless of whether the company actually distributed that money to you or not. Keep good records of your distributions versus your K-1 income, because mixing these up is a common audit trigger.

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Ana Rusula

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This is such a crucial distinction that I wish more people understood! I made the mistake of thinking my distributions were taxable income in my first year as an S-Corp owner and overpaid my taxes significantly. Just to add to your excellent explanation - the timing aspect is also important to understand. You owe taxes on your K-1 income for the tax year it was earned by the S-Corp, even if you don't receive any actual cash distributions until the following year. Conversely, you could receive distributions in December that represent profits from earlier years, and those wouldn't create additional taxable income. This is why tracking your basis is so critical - it helps you understand how much you can take out as tax-free distributions versus how much represents taxable profits that flow through to your K-1. The interplay between these three components (salary, K-1 income, and distributions) is really the heart of S-Corp tax planning.

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CosmicCaptain

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As someone who's been through this exact confusion, I can confirm that the process does get clearer with experience! One thing that really helped me understand the flow was to think of it this way: your S-Corp is like a separate "person" that earns income and pays expenses, but since it's a pass-through entity, YOU ultimately owe the taxes on its profits. The K-1 is essentially your S-Corp saying "Hey, here's your share of what I earned this year - you need to pay taxes on this." Schedule E is where you acknowledge that income on your personal return. The IRS needs to see both documents to verify that the income reported by the business matches what you're claiming on your individual return. A helpful analogy: think of it like getting a 1099 from a client. The client reports they paid you (their version of the K-1), and you report that same income on your tax return (your version of Schedule E). It's the same principle, just with more complex forms. One last tip: keep a simple spreadsheet tracking your S-Corp basis year over year. This will be invaluable if you ever have losses or take distributions, and it'll save you hours of reconstruction if you ever get audited.

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Noah Lee

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This analogy with the 1099 really helps clarify things! I've been overthinking this whole process. Your suggestion about keeping a basis spreadsheet is spot on - I wish I had started tracking that from day one instead of trying to reconstruct it now. One question though: when you say "your share of what I earned," does that mean if my S-Corp made $100k profit but I only own 60% of it, my K-1 would show $60k that I need to report on Schedule E? And then if the company distributed $40k total to all shareholders, I'd only receive $24k as my distribution (60% of $40k), but I'd still owe taxes on the full $60k of profit? I'm trying to make sure I understand how the ownership percentage affects both the K-1 income reporting and the distribution mechanics.

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Need advice on small business VDA for Sales Tax - backfiling prior years across 50 states

I run a small manufacturing business (about 40 employees) and we're in a bit of a sales tax mess. We ship our products to all 50 states, and we've recently discovered we've crossed economic nexus thresholds in many states. We sell under 5000 units yearly, but they're high-value items, and the spare parts shipments pushed us over transaction thresholds for nexus in multiple states. Our company operates on relatively thin margins because we prioritize fair employee compensation, good benefits, and environmentally responsible practices over maximizing profits. Until recently, our accounting system couldn't integrate sales tax calculation software. The only place we've been remitting sales tax is in our home state where we have physical presence, though we haven't been collecting it from customers (we've been absorbing it). Now that we finally have proper accounting software, we're planning to do Voluntary Disclosure Agreements (VDAs) for all past years of sales tax. The good news is most of our customers resell our products, and they've provided CURRENT exemption/resale certificates. Here's the problem: Our CPA is telling us we need to get PRIOR YEAR exemption certificates from all these customers to avoid liability for past uncollected taxes. When I approach customers about this, they're refusing and acting like I'm asking them to backdate or forge documents. Does anyone have experience with VDAs for multi-state sales tax compliance? Do we really need prior year certificates? What happens if customers won't provide them?

Noah Ali

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Has anyone used any of the mainstream tax software solutions like Avalara or TaxJar for handling the VDA process? We're trying to decide if we should go with specialized help or if the regular tax software companies have good VDA support.

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We evaluated both those options before going with taxr.ai. The mainstream tax software companies are excellent for ongoing compliance but their VDA support was limited in our experience. They're designed more for current and future tax calculation rather than resolving historical liabilities. For the VDA process specifically, we found we needed specialized help with the lookback analysis and documentation. Once our VDAs were completed, we switched to Avalara for ongoing compliance.

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Ravi Malhotra

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This is exactly the situation my small manufacturing company went through last year. We had similar issues with high-value products pushing us over nexus thresholds in multiple states despite relatively low transaction volumes. One thing that really helped us was creating a comprehensive spreadsheet documenting every customer interaction regarding exemption certificates. We included dates of requests, methods of contact (email, phone, certified mail), and their responses (or lack thereof). This documentation became crucial during our VDA negotiations. For customers who were clearly resellers but wouldn't provide certificates, we gathered alternative evidence: their business licenses from state databases, screenshots of their websites showing they resell products, and invoices showing consistent business purchasing patterns over multiple years. Several states accepted this as reasonable evidence of exempt transactions. The key insight we learned was that state tax authorities are generally reasonable during VDA processes if you can demonstrate good faith effort and provide logical explanations for why sales were exempt. They understand that businesses sometimes have uncooperative customers. I'd recommend prioritizing your VDA filings by states with the highest potential liability first, and don't let perfect documentation prevent you from moving forward. The penalty relief from VDAs is significant, but only if you act before they contact you.

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