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Check your tax transcript. Online. Might show what the original issue was. Could give you clues. Worth a look. Faster than waiting.
Ana, I understand your concern about receiving Notice 1462! As others have mentioned, this notice is essentially the IRS saying "we received your response and are working on it." Since you mentioned being recently retired, I'm curious - do you recall what the original notice was about? Given that you're dealing with new retirement income sources like pension and Social Security, the original issue might have been related to income reporting discrepancies. The good news is that Notice 1462 means they're actively reviewing your case, not that there's a new problem. Since you're so well-organized with your tax documents (love the color-coded folders!), you're already ahead of the game. I'd recommend checking your online IRS account or requesting a tax transcript as Kendrick suggested - this might give you more insight into what triggered the original notice. The waiting period can be nerve-wracking, but try not to stress. The IRS is just extremely backlogged right now. Keep doing what you're doing with your tax preparer, and you should be fine!
This is really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with tax issues and wasn't sure if getting a Notice 1462 was something to panic about. The explanation about it just being an acknowledgment makes so much sense. I'm curious though - when you mention checking the online IRS account or requesting a transcript, is that something anyone can do? I've never used the IRS online services before and wasn't sure if there were any requirements or if it's straightforward to set up.
This thread has been absolutely invaluable! I'm currently in year 3 of renting out my former primary residence and have been dreading the eventual sale because I wasn't sure how all the tax implications would work out. Reading through everyone's experiences, I realize I may have made some mistakes early on - I don't think I've been claiming all the depreciation I should have, and now I'm learning I'll still owe recapture tax on the "allowable" amount even if I didn't claim it. That's a hard lesson! The point about the non-qualified use period calculations really hit home. I lived in my house for 12 years before converting to rental, so I should still qualify for at least a partial Section 121 exclusion when I sell. But I had no idea about having to allocate gains between qualified and non-qualified periods. I'm definitely going to look into some of the tools mentioned here like taxr.ai to help me figure out my exact situation, and probably bite the bullet on consulting with a tax professional. The potential tax savings from proper planning clearly outweigh the consultation costs. One question for the group - for those who did get professional appraisals at conversion, did you use the same appraiser you might use when selling, or is any licensed appraiser sufficient for IRS documentation purposes?
For the appraisal question, any licensed appraiser should be sufficient for IRS documentation purposes - you don't need to use the same one you'd use when selling. The key is making sure they provide a detailed written appraisal report that clearly states the fair market value as of your conversion date. I'd actually recommend against using the same appraiser you plan to use for selling, since you want independent valuations for each purpose. When I converted my property, I used a local appraiser who specialized in investment properties and was familiar with documentation requirements for tax purposes. Regarding the depreciation situation, definitely look into filing amended returns to claim the depreciation you missed. Since you'll owe recapture tax on the "allowable" amount anyway, you might as well get the tax benefit you were entitled to during those rental years. A tax professional can help you determine if the statute of limitations has passed on any of those years. The non-qualified use calculations can definitely be tricky, especially when you've had the property for a long time like you have. With 12 years of qualified use before converting, you should be in a pretty good position for the exclusion, but getting the exact allocation right is crucial for minimizing your tax liability.
This is such a comprehensive discussion! I'm just getting started with researching this topic since I'm planning to relocate for work next year and convert my current home to a rental. One thing I'm curious about that I haven't seen mentioned - how do you handle the transition if you have an existing mortgage? Do you need to notify your lender when you convert from primary residence to rental property? I've heard some mortgages have occupancy requirements, but I'm not sure how strictly that's enforced or what the process is for converting. Also, for those who mentioned using property management companies, how did you factor the management fees into your decision? I'm trying to run the numbers on whether the rental income will be worth it after accounting for management fees, maintenance costs, and the eventual tax implications when I sell. The advice about getting a professional appraisal at conversion and consulting with both tax and legal professionals is definitely noted. This thread has made it clear that proper planning upfront can save a lot of headaches and money down the road!
Great question about the mortgage! You absolutely should notify your lender when converting from primary residence to rental property. Most conventional mortgages have occupancy clauses requiring you to live in the home as your primary residence for at least one year, but after that, many lenders will allow conversion to rental with proper notification. The key is being upfront about it - don't just quietly start renting without telling them. Some lenders may want to convert your loan to an investment property mortgage (which typically has higher rates), while others may be fine keeping the existing terms as long as you're current on payments and have met the initial occupancy requirement. Regarding property management fees, they typically run 8-12% of monthly rent in most markets, plus additional fees for finding new tenants, maintenance coordination, etc. When I was running my numbers, I found that factoring in management fees, maintenance reserves (I budgeted 1-2% of property value annually), vacancy allowance, and the future tax implications, the rental needed to generate at least 1.5-2% of the property value in monthly rent to make financial sense. Don't forget to account for the opportunity cost too - could you invest the equity elsewhere for better returns with less hassle? The tax benefits of depreciation help, but they're partially offset by the eventual recapture when you sell.
FYI - Make sure you're aware of the pro-rata rule if you have existing Traditional IRA balances!! This seems to be missed often. If you have any pre-tax money in ANY traditional IRA (including SEP or SIMPLE IRAs), you can't just convert your new non-deductible contribution tax-free. It gets prorated across all your IRA balances.
Can you roll existing traditional IRA money into a 401k to avoid the pro-rata rule? My friend mentioned this but I'm not sure if it actually works.
Yes, that's called a "reverse rollover" and it absolutely works! If your 401k plan accepts incoming rollovers (most do), you can move your existing pre-tax traditional IRA money into your 401k. This clears out your traditional IRA balance, making future backdoor Roth conversions 100% tax-free since you'll only have after-tax contributions left. Just make sure to complete the rollover before December 31st of the year you plan to do the conversion, since the pro-rata calculation looks at your IRA balances as of year-end.
Just to add some clarity from my experience - I was in a similar situation last year and successfully completed a 2024 backdoor Roth in early 2025. The key is understanding that you have two separate deadlines: 1) You can make your 2024 non-deductible traditional IRA contribution until April 15, 2025, and 2) The conversion can happen anytime after that (it will just be reported on your 2025 taxes). The Vanguard rep was mixing up the deadlines. While it's true that many people prefer to keep both steps in the same calendar year for simpler record-keeping, it's absolutely not required. You're still well within the window to make your 2024 contribution and then convert it. Just make sure to properly document everything on Form 8606 for both tax years. One tip: If you do have existing pre-tax IRA money, consider the reverse rollover strategy mentioned by others to avoid pro-rata complications. And yes, plan for that 7-day Vanguard holding period if you're using them!
This is really helpful! As someone new to backdoor Roths, I was getting confused by all the different deadlines mentioned. So just to confirm my understanding: I could make a 2024 non-deductible contribution right now in January 2025, then convert it next month, and that would still count as a 2024 contribution (reported on my 2024 taxes) but a 2025 conversion (reported on my 2025 taxes)? And this is totally legitimate even though they're in different tax years?
Everyone's talking about the tax benefits of S Corps, but nobody mentioned the asset protection angle! As someone who got sued in my construction business, this matters. With an LLC, if you're a single-member, the courts in many states treat it as less separation between you and the business. With an S Corp, you have stronger liability protection in many jurisdictions because the corporate structure is more clearly defined and respected by courts. Also, for QBI purposes, remember that certain construction specialties may count as "specified service businesses" which phase out QBI benefits at higher income levels. Worth checking if your specific estimating work falls under that category!
Can you elaborate on this "specified service business" thing? I thought construction was pretty straightforward and qualified for QBI without restrictions. Does estimating specifically fall into a different category? This is making me nervous about my situation.
@Sophia Miller brings up a great point about the specified "service business classification!" Construction estimating should generally qualify for full QBI benefits since it s'providing services TO the construction industry rather than being something like consulting or professional services. The IRS defines specified service businesses as those involving performance of services in health, law, accounting, actuarial science, performing arts, consulting, athletics, financial services, brokerage services, or any trade where the principal asset is the reputation or skill of employees/owners. Construction estimating typically falls under regular business operations serving the construction trade. However, if you re'doing a lot of consulting work or your business is more about providing expert advice/opinions rather than actual quantity takeoffs and bid preparation, there could be some gray area. The key test is whether your income comes from performing services in "a" specified field versus providing services to "that" field. For asset protection, you re'absolutely right that S Corps generally offer stronger liability protection, but don t'forget that proper insurance coverage is still your first line of defense regardless of business structure!
Great thread everyone! I'm actually an enrolled agent who works with a lot of small construction businesses, and I wanted to add a few practical considerations that might help with your decision: First, timing matters for the S Corp election. If you decide to go this route, you generally need to file Form 2553 within 2 months and 15 days of the beginning of the tax year you want it to be effective. Miss this deadline and you're stuck waiting until the following year (unless you qualify for late election relief). Second, regarding the QBI deduction - construction estimating should definitely qualify as a non-specified service business, so you won't face the income limitations that hit lawyers, consultants, etc. The 20% QBI deduction will apply to your business profits regardless of whether you're an LLC or S Corp, though the calculation base differs slightly. For your projected $120k income, an S Corp could save you roughly $3,825 in self-employment taxes (assuming a $75k reasonable salary). However, factor in the additional compliance costs - payroll service ($1,200-2,000/year), additional accounting fees ($800-1,500), and potentially state filing fees. One often overlooked benefit: S Corps make it much easier to bring on partners or investors later if your business grows. LLCs can get messy with multiple owners from a tax perspective. My recommendation? Run the numbers with your CPA using your actual financials, not hypotheticals. Every situation is unique, and the "break-even" point varies based on your specific circumstances and state tax situation.
This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was looking for! Quick question about the timing - if I'm planning to go full-time in January, do I need to file the Form 2553 by mid-March for it to be effective for the whole year? And what happens if my income projections are way off - like if I end up making significantly more or less than the $120k I'm projecting? Does that change the optimal salary amount I should be paying myself? Also, you mentioned it's easier to bring on partners with an S Corp structure - that's actually something I might consider down the road as my business grows. Can you expand on why LLCs get messy with multiple owners from a tax perspective?
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I've been dealing with IRS transcript codes for years and can confirm that -$1,910.00 with code 291 is definitely money coming TO you! π The negative sign on IRS transcripts means it's a credit to your account - I know it's confusing because it's backwards from normal accounting. Code 291 "Reduced or removed prior tax assessed" means they reviewed your return (likely triggered by your October amended return) and found you were overcharged originally. The refund freeze from March has probably been holding things up, but once that releases you should see an 846 code appear on your transcript - that's the actual refund issuance code. Check every Friday morning for updates since that's when they typically post changes. Based on what others have shared here, expect 4-6 weeks from seeing 291 to getting 846, then 1-2 weeks for the money to hit your account. You're definitely getting that $1,910 - just need patience with IRS processing times! π°
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Layla Mendes
β’This is so helpful! I've been lurking in this community for a while but never posted because I was too embarrassed to admit how confused I get by all these IRS codes π Seeing everyone share their experiences makes me feel way less alone in this. That tip about checking Friday mornings is gold - I've been randomly refreshing my transcript like every few hours which is probably driving me crazy for no reason. It's wild how the IRS makes a negative sign actually mean positive news for us! Thanks for breaking it down so clearly - definitely bookmarking this thread for future reference π
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Haley Bennett
Just went through this same exact situation a few months ago and was totally panicking too! That -$1,910.00 with code 291 is actually AMAZING news for you! π The negative sign means it's money coming TO you, not something you owe. I know it seems completely backwards but that's just how the IRS does their accounting on transcripts. Code 291 "Reduced or removed prior tax assessed" basically means they reviewed your return (probably because of that amended return from October) and realized they overcharged you on taxes originally. So they're correcting it in your favor! The refund freeze from March is likely what's been holding everything up, but once that releases you should see an 846 code appear - that's the golden ticket that means they're actually cutting you a check. Based on everyone's experiences in this thread, I'd definitely recommend checking your transcript every Friday morning since that's when they typically post updates. From what I've seen, it usually takes about 4-6 weeks from seeing the 291 to getting the 846 refund code, then another 1-2 weeks for the money to actually hit your account. You're definitely getting that $1,910 - just gotta be patient with the IRS bureaucracy! The waiting is the hardest part but you're in good shape. Keep us posted when you see that 846 code! π°
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