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My small business return was accepted on January 29th, 2024. Transcript updated with 570 code on February 12th. Then showed 571 code on February 19th. Got 846 code on February 23rd with February 28th deposit date. But the money hit my account on February 23rd - same day as the transcript update! Just like yours! My WMR still shows processing even though I already have the money. This is definitely a new pattern for 2024 filing season.
This is really encouraging to hear! I filed my LLC return on 2/3 and have been anxiously waiting since my transcript still shows "N/A" for 2024. Based on your timeline and what others are sharing, it sounds like the IRS might actually be processing business returns much more efficiently this year. The fact that your deposit hit the same day as the transcript update is incredible - that never happened in previous years. I'm going to stop obsessing over WMR and just wait for my transcript to update. Thanks for sharing the detailed timeline, it really helps set expectations for those of us still waiting!
Just a heads up - even if you made under $2,500, you still need to report that income! Some people think there's a minimum threshold where you don't need to report income, but that's not true for W-2 income.
Actually this isn't completely accurate. You're required to file a tax return if your income exceeds the standard deduction ($12,950 for single filers in 2022). But you're right that ALL income is technically reportable regardless of whether you receive a W-2.
I went through something similar with a restaurant job a couple years back. One thing that really helped was checking if they had deposited any tax withholdings on my behalf. Even though you made under $2,500, if they withheld federal or state taxes from your paychecks, you'll want to make sure you get credit for those withholdings when you file. Look at your pay stubs to see if there were any deductions for federal income tax, Social Security, or Medicare. If there were, you're definitely entitled to get that money back as a refund, but you'll need either the W-2 or to file Form 4852 to claim it. Also, don't forget that as a server, you probably had tip income that should be reported too. The restaurant should include your reported tips on the W-2, but if you consistently under-reported tips during the year, you might need to account for that separately on your return.
This is really good advice about checking the withholdings! I hadn't thought about that aspect. Looking back at my pay stubs, they definitely took out federal taxes and Social Security/Medicare even though I didn't make much. For the tip reporting part - I was pretty good about reporting most of my cash tips through their system each shift, but you're right that there might be some discrepancy. Do you know if there's a way to estimate what I should report if I can't remember exactly? I kept most of my cash in a jar at home but didn't track it day by day.
For tip estimation, the IRS generally expects tip income to be at least 8% of your total sales if you worked at a restaurant that typically receives tips. If you can find any records of your daily sales totals (sometimes restaurants track this for servers), you can use that as a baseline. Since you kept cash tips in a jar, try to estimate based on your work schedule and typical tip patterns. If you worked busy shifts on weekends versus slower weekday shifts, factor that in. Most servers average between 15-20% tips on total sales, so if you were consistently reporting through their system, you're probably pretty close to accurate. The key thing is to be reasonable with your estimates. The IRS understands that exact tip tracking is difficult, but they do expect good faith efforts. If you're audited later (which is unlikely for your income level), having pay stubs and showing you made reasonable estimates based on industry standards will usually be sufficient.
This exact same thing happened to me when I got promoted from $52K to $68K in September last year! I was so confused and worried that I had done something wrong with my taxes. What really helped me understand it was thinking about it this way: for the first 8 months of the year, your employer was withholding taxes as if you'd make $47K all year. Then suddenly in August, they started withholding as if you'd make $62K all year. But the reality is you made something in between those two amounts for 2025 as a whole. The withholding tables just can't perfectly predict this kind of mid-year change. Your situation is actually pretty common - I'd say owing around $800-900 after a $15K raise is totally reasonable and shows your withholding wasn't too far off. One thing that gave me peace of mind was realizing that owing a moderate amount like this is actually better than getting a huge refund, since it means you kept more of your money in your own pocket throughout the year instead of giving the IRS an interest-free loan. Definitely update that W-4 though! I used the IRS calculator and it was pretty straightforward. Now that you're settled into your new salary, next year should be much more predictable.
This is such a reassuring perspective! I've been stressing about this for weeks thinking I must have made some huge mistake. The way you explained the withholding mismatch between the first 8 months vs the last few months really clicked for me. It makes total sense that the system can't perfectly predict when someone gets a mid-year raise like this. I'm definitely going to use the IRS calculator this week to update my W-4. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to know I'm not alone in this situation and that it's actually pretty normal!
Hey CyberSamurai! First off, congratulations on the raise - that's awesome! And don't worry, you're definitely not alone in this situation. What you're experiencing is incredibly common and you didn't do anything wrong. Here's what happened: When you got your raise in August, your employer's payroll system started withholding taxes based on your new $62K salary, but it doesn't know or adjust for the fact that you were making less money earlier in the year. So for January through July, taxes were being withheld as if you'd make $47K all year, and then August onwards, it switched to withholding as if you'd make $62K all year. The reality is your actual annual income for 2025 fell somewhere in between. The jump from getting a $1,200 refund to owing $840 might seem dramatic, but it actually shows that your total tax withholding was pretty close to what you actually owed - just slightly under. In some ways, this is better than getting a huge refund, since you kept more of your own money throughout the year instead of giving the government an interest-free loan. Moving forward, definitely update your W-4 now that you're settled into your new salary. The IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website is really helpful for figuring out the right settings. Since your income is now consistent at the higher level, next year should be much more predictable. You've got this! $840 is manageable, and if you need to, the IRS offers payment plans with reasonable terms.
This is exactly what I needed to hear! Thank you so much for breaking it down so clearly, Emma. I've been losing sleep over this thinking I screwed up my taxes somehow, but your explanation about the payroll system switching withholding rates mid-year makes perfect sense. I never realized that owing a smaller amount could actually be better than getting a big refund - that's a totally new way to think about it for me. I'm going to check out that IRS withholding estimator this weekend and get my W-4 updated. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain this so thoroughly!
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting a big capital gain like this? I'm worried it won't handle all the nuances correctly and I'll miss deductions.
I wouldn't trust TurboTax with a transaction this complex. I sold a property last year with a large gain and used a CPA instead. She found several deductions that TurboTax wouldn't have prompted me for. Worth the few hundred dollars in fees considering the tax savings.
With a $2 million profit on this scale, you definitely need professional help. I'd strongly recommend getting both a tax attorney and a CPA who specialize in real estate transactions to review your situation before you sell. A few things to consider beyond what's already been mentioned: 1. **Dealer vs. Investor Status**: Since you built this specifically to sell, the IRS might classify you as a dealer rather than an investor. This would mean your profits get hit with ordinary income tax rates (up to 37%) plus self-employment tax, rather than the lower capital gains rates. 2. **State Taxes**: Don't forget about state capital gains taxes if you're in a state that has them. Some states have no capital gains tax, while others treat it as ordinary income. 3. **Estimated Taxes**: With a gain this large, you'll likely need to make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties. 4. **Timing**: Consider the timing of your sale. If you're already in a high-income year, it might make sense to delay the sale to the following year to manage your overall tax bracket. The potential tax bill on $2 million could easily be $500K+ depending on your situation, so spending a few thousand on proper professional advice is a no-brainer. Don't try to navigate this alone with software or generic advice.
This is excellent advice about getting professional help. I'm curious though - how do you determine if you're classified as a dealer versus an investor? I've been thinking about doing a similar project but want to make sure I structure it correctly from the beginning to avoid the higher ordinary income tax rates.
Rita Jacobs
Has anyone tried filing a complaint with the CFPB (Consumer Financial Protection Bureau) about SBTPG? I just submitted one yesterday after getting nowhere with SBTPG for 9 weeks. They're legally required to respond to CFPB complaints within 15 days.
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Rita Jacobs
ā¢That's awesome to hear! Did you have to provide any specific documentation with your CFPB complaint? I included screenshots of my IRS transcript showing the refund was issued, but wasn't sure if I needed anything else.
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Mateo Rodriguez
ā¢I included my IRS transcript, screenshots of SBTPG's website showing my refund status, and a timeline of all my phone calls with both SBTPG and the IRS. The more documentation you have showing the contradiction between what SBTPG claims and what actually happened, the better. Also include any reference numbers or case numbers you've been given. The CFPB complaint form has sections for uploading multiple documents, so don't hold back on the evidence!
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Carmen Reyes
This is exactly what happened to me! I've been dealing with SBTPG holding my $2,400 refund since March. They keep saying they returned it to the IRS, but when I finally got through to an IRS agent (after waiting 3 hours on hold), they confirmed there's no record of SBTPG returning anything. What really got me was when I asked SBTPG for proof they returned my refund - like a transaction ID or confirmation number - they couldn't provide any documentation. Just kept repeating the same script about "processing delays" and "10-12 weeks." I'm definitely going to try filing that CFPB complaint and the Form 3911 refund trace. It's ridiculous that we have to jump through all these hoops when they're clearly just sitting on our money. Thanks for posting this - at least now I know I'm not going crazy and this is happening to tons of people!
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Yara Nassar
ā¢Carmen, you're definitely not going crazy! The fact that they can't provide any proof of returning your refund is a huge red flag. When legitimate returns happen, there are always transaction records and confirmation numbers - the fact that SBTPG can't produce any documentation suggests they never actually returned it. I'd also recommend documenting everything - dates of calls, representative names if you got them, reference numbers, etc. When you file that CFPB complaint, having a detailed timeline really strengthens your case. Also, if you have any written communication from SBTPG (emails, letters, etc.) claiming they returned your refund, definitely include those as evidence of their false statements. It's infuriating that we have to become amateur investigators just to get our own tax refunds, but unfortunately that seems to be what it takes with SBTPG. Keep fighting for your money - you shouldn't have to wait indefinitely for what's rightfully yours!
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